---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 02/04/14: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:27 AM - Gardiner's C-85 (Douwe Blumberg) 2. 07:42 AM - Re: Gardiner's C-85 (Gardiner Mason) 3. 08:21 AM - Re: Gardiner's C-85 (tkreiner) 4. 05:55 PM - Shop/Hangar open house Feb 20 to 24 (tools) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:49 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gardiner's C-85 Hey buddy, I'll contact you with the pics and am happy to tell you what I know. You'll love that engine/airframe combination! Don Emch leant me his engine mount jig and he'll loan it to whoever needs it. Not sure where it is now, but it would be well worth it to see if you could track it down. I added some sidethrust with washers which seems to have worked out well. I say leave as much crap on the engine as you can so you don't end up with a stupid long nosed Piet. I left on the old heavy generator, and ran the battery as far forward as I could and left the starter on, which is sure convenient. My weight and balance came out good. I'm sure your prop will work, but my gut is telling me there are some better ones out there for a draggy airframe such as ours. VERY different beast than a 140, and very different prop requirements. My C-90 is spinning a 76, same diameter as that old Ford. I've still not REALLY honed in on my exact airspeeds, but they seem about this. I like to put around using little fuel and keeping things very quiet at 2,000rpm. At this, I chug along around 60ish. When I'm going somewhere, I'll cruise around 2250 or 2300 which seems to bring it close to 70. 2450 will get me around 75ish. She's not very fast. Going to Brodhead last year, my average groundspeed was 60, coming back was 82. D ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:42:35 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Gardiner's C-85 From: Gardiner Mason Thanks Douwe. My fuselage is 26 wide. What width is the jig and what is Dons phone number? My prop is a Mac. 71-46 metal, so probably heavier than your s. Also I have the heavier starter and generator. I am looking for aeronca e xhaust stacks also. Thanks, gardiner Sent from my iPad On Feb 4, 2014, at 9:28 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" w rote: > Hey buddy, > > I=99ll contact you with the pics and am happy to tell you what I kno w. > > You=99ll love that engine/airframe combination! Don Emch leant me h is engine mount jig and he=99ll loan it to whoever needs it. Not sure where it is now, but it would be well worth it to see if you could track it down. I added some sidethrust with washers which seems to have worked out w ell. > > I say leave as much crap on the engine as you can so you don=99t end up with a stupid long nosed Piet. I left on the old heavy generator, and r an the battery as far forward as I could and left the starter on, which is s ure convenient. My weight and balance came out good. > > I=99m sure your prop will work, but my gut is telling me there are s ome better ones out there for a draggy airframe such as ours. VERY differen t beast than a 140, and very different prop requirements. My C-90 is spinni ng a 76, same diameter as that old Ford. > > I=99ve still not REALLY honed in on my exact airspeeds, but they see m about this. > > I like to put around using little fuel and keeping things very quiet at 2, 000rpm. At this, I chug along around 60ish. When I=99m going somewhe re, I=99ll cruise around 2250 or 2300 which seems to bring it close to 70. 2450 will get me around 75ish. > > She=99s not very fast. Going to Brodhead last year, my average grou ndspeed was 60, coming back was 82 > > D > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:21:47 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gardiner's C-85 From: "tkreiner" Douwe, Since I'm at the office, I can't look up the weight of your plane... so what is it? Also, do you know which cam is in your C-90? Thanks, -------- Tom Kreiner Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418074#418074 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:55:55 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Shop/Hangar open house Feb 20 to 24 From: "tools" A quick reminder about an open house in Chickamauga GA later this month. I think there's about 20 or so folks fairly well committed to coming with a few projects lined up. Babbitt pouring, several machining projects, we have a couple logs about 3 feet in diameter to mill up on the sawmill, quite a few folks are bringing firearms to play with (at least one automated, bring 9mm if that interests you...), good chance we'll be doing an annual on 2RN, several piet folks are coming and going to try fabricating and welding up some control horns. The runway isn't compacted enough to use yet, so if you're interested in flying in, I have two private grass strips to point you to within 5 and 10 miles, and Lafayette GA at about 10 miles (self serve AVGAS, paved, tie downs on the ramp). We'll get you back and forth. Notice to northerners, while not warm by our standards, it's been in the 50's and 60's a lot lately! Cheers, Tools Got some oysters coming from Savannah, beef from Indiana, possibly some pork grown right here on the property (anyone know how to cook one in the ground?). The address is 335 Castlerock Ln, Chickamauga GA. Folks are still welcome to crash anywhere they can find on the property. 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