Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Wed 02/05/14


Total Messages Posted: 13



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:42 AM - Re: Gardiner's C-85 (Don Emch)
     2. 09:59 AM - C-90 cam (Douwe Blumberg)
     3. 12:49 PM - nx727cr build update (nightmare)
     4. 01:00 PM - Re: nx727cr build update (Ken Bickers)
     5. 03:36 PM - Off subject-- link to some great WWI era aeroplanes in NZ (Timothy Willis)
     6. 04:21 PM - Re: Gardiner's C-85 (FandS_Piet)
     7. 04:36 PM - Re: Off subject-- link to some great WWI era aeroplanes in NZ (nightmare)
     8. 06:01 PM - Re: Wheel alignment.... (taildrags)
     9. 06:11 PM - Re: Re: Gardiner's C-85 (Yahoo! Account Service)
    10. 08:04 PM - Cutting 4130 (aviken)
    11. 08:58 PM - Re: Cutting 4130 (nightmare)
    12. 10:13 PM - Re: Re: Cutting 4130 (Clif Dawson)
    13. 11:43 PM - Re: Cutting 4130 (tools)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:42:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gardiner's C-85
    From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
    Hello Gardiner, You are welcome to call me. (330) 429-5265. If I can't answer right away just leave me a message and I'll get back to you. I don't have the jig right now and without seeing it in front of me it's kind of hard to figure but you might be able to mount your fuselage attach lugs on the outside of the fixture rails to get the 26". Not real sure though. I think Fred Kim has it near Pittsburgh right now. Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418114#418114


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    Time: 09:59:56 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: C-90 cam
    Hey Tom, All I know is that my engine has a C-90 cam, have no idea more than that. Re-PIET is heavy, right up around 800 lbs Douwe


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    Time: 12:49:11 PM PST US
    Subject: nx727cr build update
    From: "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
    Have been welding tabs all over the fuselge. Just finished the ones that will allow me to fasten horiz stab on and couldnt resist clamping tail pieces in place for a photo op. If curious, the airframe, floor, and cockpit controls as you see in pick add up to 51lbs 6 oz. (Tail feathers are excluded).[/u] -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418136#418136 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/20140205_150401_210.jpg


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    Time: 01:00:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: nx727cr build update
    From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>
    Paul, looks great. Love the floor. Ken On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:48 PM, nightmare <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>wrote: > pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com> > > Have been welding tabs all over the fuselge. Just finished the ones that > will allow me to fasten horiz stab on and couldnt resist clamping tail > pieces in place for a photo op. If curious, the airframe, floor, and > cockpit controls as you see in pick add up to 51lbs 6 oz. (Tail feathers > are excluded).[/u] > > -------- > Paul Donahue > Started 8-3-12 > do not archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418136#418136 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/20140205_150401_210.jpg > >


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    Time: 03:36:10 PM PST US
    Subject: Off subject-- link to some great WWI era aeroplanes in
    NZ
    From: Timothy Willis <timwillis01@gmail.com>
    http://www.network54.com/Forum/149674/message/1385149639/Photos+from+The+Vintage+Aviator+Ltd%27s+Remembrance+Day+airshow Tim in central TX


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    Time: 04:21:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gardiner's C-85
    From: "FandS_Piet" <fkim79@gmail.com>
    I do have it Don. After a long build hiatus from having a child and a career change we are finally back at it. We actually have tubing in the jig right now and should be done with the jig shortly. I see no reason why one couldn't use spacers on the outside of the rails to make a wider mount. Once we are done I would gladly deliver the jig or meet whoever is next in line as I'm always looking for a place to fly. Fred -------- Fred Kim Pittsburgh, Pa Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418148#418148


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    Time: 04:36:23 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Off subject-- link to some great WWI era aeroplanes
    in NZ
    From: "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
    Awesome !awesome! Thanks for sharing -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418153#418153


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    Time: 06:01:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wheel alignment....
    From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Steve; back to your question (and the observation offered by Tools)- it should not change the toe-in/out geometry when you load the cockpit, so you shouldn't need to check it with you or anybody else sitting in the airplane but it wouldn't hurt, either. It will change the track and camber, obviously. I flew Scout for one summer season with washers, not proper shims, correcting the toe-in/out on one axle because it was not straight. That's not the proper way to do it, but you can at least fiddle with thin or thick washers (or put one on the belt sander to get it right)- and find the necessary shim thickness and angle you need if you have Cessna type axles with the 4-bolt mount pads. Please recognize that washers are not the proper way to correct the situation though ;o) -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418157#418157


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    Time: 06:11:07 PM PST US
    From: Yahoo! Account Service <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Gardiner's C-85
    Fred, Great to hear you are making progress. Skip -----Original Message----- >From: FandS_Piet <fkim79@gmail.com> >Sent: Feb 5, 2014 7:21 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gardiner's C-85 > > >I do have it Don. After a long build hiatus from having a child and a career change we are finally back at it. We actually have tubing in the jig right now and should be done with the jig shortly. I see no reason why one couldn't use spacers on the outside of the rails to make a wider mount. Once we are done I would gladly deliver the jig or meet whoever is next in line as I'm always looking for a place to fly. > >Fred > >-------- >Fred Kim >Pittsburgh, Pa > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418148#418148 > >


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    Time: 08:04:16 PM PST US
    Subject: Cutting 4130
    From: "aviken" <aviken@windstream.net>
    Hi Guys. I need some advice. I have a commercial type band saw that uses a 93 inch blade. It is really for wood, but I have slowed it down with a jack shaft I made, and it is slow enough now. I tried to rip some .100 4130 and it quickly ruined my blade. Is this not going to work. I need to come up with some way to make this thing work. I've been making some progress on my fuselage and hopeing to finish it by spring then move on to the wing when time allows Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418163#418163 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/jeep_motor_1_118.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/controls_2_491.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/controls_1_908.jpg


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    Time: 08:58:36 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cutting 4130
    From: "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
    I find my 4 1/2 angle grider with cutoff disc works great. I have a second grinder with a sanding disc to clean up edges. Many fittings can be made by first buying strip steel of correct width to reduce cuts needed. -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418164#418164


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    Time: 10:13:22 PM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Cutting 4130
    Make a table for better control. This one, along with a 5" vise, is mounted atop a restaurant table base. It can be rolled around the same as a55 gal drumor barrel. With one foot on it it's solid. Make the table hieght the same as the top of the vise jaws. Although these pics aren't great I'm sure guys- who-build-Piets can figure it out. :-) Clif It matters not what things have been. It only matters what they become. > > I find my 4 1/2 angle grider with cutoff disc works great. I have a second > grinder with a sanding disc to clean up edges. Many fittings can be made > by first buying strip steel of correct width to reduce cuts needed. > Paul Donahue


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    Time: 11:43:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cutting 4130
    From: "tools" <n0kkj@yahoo.com>
    I've cut a LOT of steel, mild up to 3/4", 4130 up to 1/4" on 14" bandsaws slowed down to correct metal cutting speeds... So they'll do it. What kind of blade are you running? Mine are generally around 14 tpi, maybe less. How slow have you got it to run with your jack shaft? I'll go double check mine, but it's pretty slow. It's a triple gear reduction. Doing it with pulleys is generally pretty tough. It's a VERY small pulley running a LARGE pulley, a couple of times. I suspect your blade is going to fast. I imagine my wheels are going somewhere around 60 rpm at the fastest. My 20" saw goes around 30 rpm. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418166#418166




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