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     1. 04:42 AM - Re: Gardiner's C-85 (Don Emch)
     2. 09:59 AM - C-90 cam (Douwe Blumberg)
     3. 12:49 PM - nx727cr build update (nightmare)
     4. 01:00 PM - Re: nx727cr build update (Ken Bickers)
     5. 03:36 PM - Off subject-- link to some great WWI era aeroplanes in NZ (Timothy Willis)
     6. 04:21 PM - Re: Gardiner's C-85 (FandS_Piet)
     7. 04:36 PM - Re: Off subject-- link to some great WWI era aeroplanes in NZ (nightmare)
     8. 06:01 PM - Re: Wheel alignment.... (taildrags)
     9. 06:11 PM - Re: Re: Gardiner's C-85 (Yahoo! Account Service)
    10. 08:04 PM - Cutting 4130 (aviken)
    11. 08:58 PM - Re: Cutting 4130 (nightmare)
    12. 10:13 PM - Re: Re: Cutting 4130 (Clif Dawson)
    13. 11:43 PM - Re: Cutting 4130 (tools)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Gardiner's C-85 | 
      
      
      Hello Gardiner,
      
      You are welcome to call me.  (330) 429-5265.  If I can't answer right away just
      leave me a message and I'll get back to you.  I don't have the jig right now
      and without seeing it in front of me it's kind of hard to figure but you might
      be able to mount your fuselage attach lugs on the outside of the fixture rails
      to get the 26".  Not real sure though.  I think Fred Kim has it near Pittsburgh
      right now.  
      
      Don Emch
      NX899DE
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418114#418114
      
      
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      Hey Tom,
      
      
      All I know is that my engine has a C-90 cam, have no idea more than that.
      
      
      Re-PIET is heavy, right up around 800 lbs
      
      
      Douwe
      
      
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| Subject:  | nx727cr build update | 
      
      
      Have been welding tabs all over the fuselge.  Just finished the ones that will
      allow me to fasten horiz stab on and couldnt resist clamping tail pieces in place
      for a photo op. If curious, the airframe, floor, and cockpit controls as you
      see in pick add up to 51lbs 6 oz. (Tail feathers are excluded).[/u]
      
      --------
      Paul Donahue
      Started 8-3-12
      do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: nx727cr build update | 
      
      Paul, looks great.  Love the floor. Ken
      
      
      On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:48 PM, nightmare <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>wrote:
      
      > pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
      >
      > Have been welding tabs all over the fuselge.  Just finished the ones that
      > will allow me to fasten horiz stab on and couldnt resist clamping tail
      > pieces in place for a photo op. If curious, the airframe, floor, and
      > cockpit controls as you see in pick add up to 51lbs 6 oz. (Tail feathers
      > are excluded).[/u]
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      > Paul Donahue
      > Started 8-3-12
      > do not archive
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| Subject:  | Off subject-- link to some great WWI era aeroplanes in | 
      NZ
      
      http://www.network54.com/Forum/149674/message/1385149639/Photos+from+The+Vintage+Aviator+Ltd%27s+Remembrance+Day+airshow
      
      Tim in central TX
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Gardiner's C-85 | 
      
      
      I do have it Don.  After a long build hiatus from having a child and a career change
      we are finally back at it. We actually have tubing in the jig right now
      and should be done with the jig shortly. I see no reason why one couldn't use
      spacers on the outside of the rails to make a wider mount. Once we are done I
      would gladly deliver the jig or meet whoever is next in line as I'm always looking
      for a place to fly. 
      
      Fred
      
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      Fred Kim
      Pittsburgh, Pa
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Off subject-- link to some great WWI era aeroplanes | 
      in NZ
      
      
      Awesome !awesome! Thanks for sharing
      
      --------
      Paul Donahue
      Started 8-3-12
      do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Wheel alignment.... | 
      
      
      Steve; back to your question (and the observation offered by Tools)- it should
      not change the toe-in/out geometry when you load the cockpit, so you shouldn't
      need to check it with you or anybody else sitting in the airplane but it wouldn't
      hurt, either.  It will change the track and camber, obviously.
      
      I flew Scout for one summer season with washers, not proper shims, correcting the
      toe-in/out on one axle because it was not straight.  That's not the proper
      way to do it, but you can at least fiddle with thin or thick washers (or put one
      on the belt sander to get it right)- and find the necessary shim thickness
      and angle you need if you have Cessna type axles with the 4-bolt mount pads. 
      Please recognize that washers are not the proper way to correct the situation
      though ;o)
      
      --------
      Oscar Zuniga
      Medford, OR
      Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      A75 power
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418157#418157
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Gardiner's C-85 | 
      
      
      Fred,
      Great to hear you are making progress.
      Skip
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: FandS_Piet <fkim79@gmail.com>
      >Sent: Feb 5, 2014 7:21 PM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gardiner's C-85
      >
      >
      >I do have it Don.  After a long build hiatus from having a child and a career
      change we are finally back at it. We actually have tubing in the jig right now
      and should be done with the jig shortly. I see no reason why one couldn't use
      spacers on the outside of the rails to make a wider mount. Once we are done I
      would gladly deliver the jig or meet whoever is next in line as I'm always looking
      for a place to fly. 
      >
      >Fred
      >
      >--------
      >Fred Kim
      >Pittsburgh, Pa
      >
      >
      >Read this topic online here:
      >
      >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418148#418148
      >
      >
      
      
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      Hi Guys.   I need some advice.  I have a commercial type band saw that uses a 93
      inch blade. It is really for wood, but I have slowed it down with a jack shaft
      I made, and it is slow enough now.  I tried to rip some .100  4130 and it quickly
      ruined my blade.  Is this not going to work.  I need to come up with some
      way to make this thing work. 
           I've been making some progress on my fuselage and hopeing to finish
      it by spring then move on to the wing when time allows
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418163#418163
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Cutting 4130 | 
      
      
      I find my 4 1/2 angle grider with cutoff disc works great. I have a second grinder
      with a sanding disc to clean up edges.  Many fittings can be made by first
      buying strip steel of correct width to reduce cuts needed.
      
      --------
      Paul Donahue
      Started 8-3-12
      do not archive
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418164#418164
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Cutting 4130 | 
      
      Make a table for better control.
      This one, along with a 5" vise, is mounted atop a
      restaurant table base. It can be rolled around the
      same as a55 gal drumor barrel. With one foot on
      it it's solid. Make the table hieght the same as the
      top of the vise jaws.
      Although these pics aren't great I'm sure guys-
      who-build-Piets can figure it out.  :-)
      
      Clif
      It matters not what things have been.
      It only matters what they become.
      
      
      >
      > I find my 4 1/2 angle grider with cutoff disc works great. I have a second 
      > grinder with a sanding disc to clean up edges.  Many fittings can be made 
      > by first buying strip steel of correct width to reduce cuts needed.
      > Paul Donahue
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Cutting 4130 | 
      
      
      I've cut a LOT of steel, mild up to 3/4", 4130 up to 1/4" on 14" bandsaws slowed
      down to correct metal cutting speeds...
      
      So they'll do it.  What kind of blade are you running?  Mine are generally around
      14 tpi, maybe less.  
      
      How slow have you got it to run with your jack shaft?  I'll go double check mine,
      but it's pretty slow.  It's a triple gear reduction.  Doing it with pulleys
      is generally pretty tough.  It's a VERY small pulley running a LARGE pulley,
      a couple of times.
      
      I suspect your blade is going to fast.  I imagine my wheels are going somewhere
      around 60 rpm at the fastest.  My 20" saw goes around 30 rpm.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418166#418166
      
      
 
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