Today's Message Index:
----------------------
 
     1. 09:16 AM - Re: Cobra Torches... (taildrags)
     2. 09:23 AM - Re: How to figure the volume of your center section fuel tank (taildrags)
     3. 12:21 PM - Re: Re: Cobra Torches... (Ray Krause)
     4. 01:34 PM - Re: Feb 20 to 24, hangar gathering, doing "stuff", Cha (pringljo)
     5. 03:49 PM - Re: Cutting 4130 (Jerry Dotson)
     6. 04:20 PM - Re: Cobra Torches... (Jerry Dotson)
     7. 08:02 PM - Scout's got wings (taildrags)
     8. 08:12 PM - Re: Re: Cobra Torches... (John Core)
     9. 08:12 PM - Re: Scout's got wings (Ray Krause)
    10. 08:57 PM - Re: Feb 20 to 24, hangar gathering, doing "stuff", Cha (tools)
    11. 09:04 PM - Re: Cobra Torches... (tools)
 
 
 
Message 1
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: Cobra Torches... | 
      
      
      Ray; your reply about making the torch work look easy should have been addressed
      to "tools", not me.  I wouldn't know a Cobra torch from a Cobra CB radio.
      
      --------
      Oscar Zuniga
      Medford, OR
      Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      A75 power
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418360#418360
      
      
Message 2
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: How to figure the volume of your center section fuel | 
      tank
      
      
      Well, it looks like I'm in good company here.  When I had the fuel tank out of
      my airplane years ago, I wanted to determine just how much fuel it would hold
      and I did the gallon jug thing too.  Funny thing is, I had the bright idea of
      marking the float rod (I have a nose tank with the J-3 style rod and float indicator)-
      and when I started pouring in the first jug of water, I noticed that
      Corky had already filed some shallow but clear marks onto the rod at 1 gallon
      increments.  Well, OK, but I was already set up to do it so I went ahead and checked
      Corky's work.  Why? ;o)
      
      The marks on the float rod are not distinct enough to see from the cockpit, but
      they are helpful when you pull up to the fuel pump because you already have a
      good idea of how many gallons it'll take to top it off without spilling avgas
      over the cowling.  Most of the time ;o)
      
      My wife is always telling me that I can't just take her word for anything, I've
      got to check things out for myself.  Maybe she's right... I'll have to check
      that out.
      
      --------
      Oscar Zuniga
      Medford, OR
      Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      A75 power
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418362#418362
      
      
Message 3
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: Cobra Torches... | 
      
      
      Thanks!  This has been a great learning experience, just asking for user's opinion.
      That's what so great about this forum.
      
      Thanks again,
      Ray Krause
      
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      > On Feb 7, 2014, at 8:57 PM, glenschweizer@yahoo.com wrote:
      > 
      > 
      > Hi Ray
      > When welding anything,the strength of that weld is going to depend on many factors.
      The heat has to be suficient to melt all material to a temp 
      > Witch allows them to flow into one another(100 percent penetration). Lack of
      porosity is also critical.  That is controlled with proper gas regulation and
      position within the flame cone where the. Welding takes place. The low volume
      torches might do very well for thinner material but maybe not so well on thicker
      stuff.
      > When you. Test your welds  the material welded should break before the weld after
      thAt. Cut or file the weld so that you can do a magnified inspection of your
      welds. Short of. X-ray that's been the most reliable method I've found to
      really study them damned welds.  Practice inspect practice practice
      > Sent from my iPhone
      > 
      >> On Feb 7, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net> wrote:
      >> 
      >> 
      >> Oscar,
      >> 
      >> Thanks for your opinion, which I respect highly. I did buy a kit of the Cobra
      torches because, as you said, they make it look easy. When he welded the 4130
      for me, I took it home  and beat on it a little with the hammer, it did not
      come apart. Tomorrow I will bisect it and see what the welds look like on the
      inside. The mild steel he welded had good penetration, but it was thin. I will
      try some .090 and see how it works. Not sure my regulators will deliver 4PSI.
      It is all research! My thought was that the Cobra would be about the same cost
      as getting all the setup for the smaller standard torches. But if I have to
      get new regulators, I will be spending even more money!  Oh well, it's nothing
      money can't fix!
      >> 
      >> Thanks,
      >> 
      >> Ray Krause
      >> 
      >> Sent from my iPad
      >> 
      >>> On Feb 7, 2014, at 8:16 AM, "tools" <n0kkj@yahoo.com> wrote:
      >>> 
      >>> 
      >>> These things are really controversial...  However, I like mine.  
      >>> 
      >>> I haven't really figured out how to use them correctly though.  Like everything,
      the demos are a bit misleading, but only in they make it seem easier than
      it is.  However, they're CLEARLY doing it!  And I really believe it'll do things
      a regular OA torch won't (though someone REALLY skilled could prove that
      wrong I suppose).
      >>> 
      >>> Like all OA sets, super versatile.  I did weld some 4130 once early on and
      made the MOST BEAUTIFUL looking welds ever... then tried some testing on them.
      Turned out there was NO PENETRATION at all.  Really weird.  
      >>> 
      >>> So, while I also recommend them, I would also recommend really spending some
      time with them until you really figure them out.  Like ALL tools, they require
      skill.  There's nothing magic about them.  I think most of the naysayers are
      folks who are good at OTHER OA torches and figure if they can't make these work,
      they're smoke and mirrors.  When it's probably more a case of they just don't
      know how to make THESE torches work.
      >>> 
      >>> They really are super nice guys who will do their level best to get you going.
      I also recommend good regulators that'll do well at lower levels.  Like most
      chinese stuff, it's a matter of hit and miss, and longevity.  Good regulators
      out of the gate will most likely save a lot of frustration.
      >>> 
      >>> 
      >>> 
      >>> 
      >>> Read this topic online here:
      >>> 
      >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418282#418282
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
Message 4
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: Feb 20 to 24, hangar gathering, doing "stuff", Cha | 
      
      
      I would also like to come up for at least Saturday. I don't have anything specific
      to work on, but I always enjoy hanging out with Piet folks, and learn a lot
      by watching others. 
      
      Can you fill me in on driving directions? Also, do I understand that if I bring
      some 9mm ammo, I might get to burn it up?
      
      --------
      Joe Pringle
      Atlanta, GA
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418375#418375
      
      
Message 5
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: Cutting 4130 | 
      
      
      Mike I have never timed it but solo and full gas about 1140# gross I feel sure
      it will do around 1000 FPM. I put the big engine on to get out of my 1300 runway
      comfortable. I climb at 55 for about 10 seconds on takeoff then nose over to
      70 for good cooling. At 2300 rpm it will do about 95 but I never go there because
      it ain't right to fly a Piet like that. Most(98%) of the time around 2000
      @ 72. The picture was shot when I was doing 65 climbing out from home.
      
      --------
      Jerry Dotson
      
      First flight June 16,2012
      Flying in phase 2
      Lycoming O-235 C2C
      Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
      do not archive
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418382#418382
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/a28_196.jpg
      
      
Message 6
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: Cobra Torches... | 
      
      
      I have never had a Cobra torch in my hand but would like to comment anyway. I have
      a Smith Airline torch that was my Dad's. He welded engine mounts for North
      American during WWII, then engine mounts and landing gear for Luscombe and Swift.
      My opinion of quality welds depends mostly with the skill of the person with
      the torch in their hand. I did all my Piet welding with the Smith except the
      engine mount just for nostalgia sake. My son welded the mount with my Miller
      330 tig machine.
       The idea that the Cobra is hotter than a regular torch is advertising BS. Fuel/oxygen
      ratio determines flame temp. All that said I don't claim to be an expert........just
      seen a lot of welds. There is absolutely no substitute for a good
      set of regulators that hold a setting. Victor 2 stage is my favorite but pricey.
        Notice how many tips are there in the picture. Having the right size tip makes
      you look better than you really are!
      
      --------
      Jerry Dotson
      
      First flight June 16,2012
      Flying in phase 2
      Lycoming O-235 C2C
      Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
      do not archive
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418385#418385
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/a14_179.jpg
      
      
Message 7
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Scout's got wings | 
      
      
      Today was the day.... hung the wings.  The last time the wings were on the airplane
      was December 2012, when Steve Dortch, John Kuhfahl, Norris Warner, Craig
      Wall, my brother David, and a cast of extras all helped me take the airplane apart
      and load it into the big Ryder truck for the trip from TX to Oregon.  Now
      it's back together with all new wing and strut attach hardware and I just need
      to reconnect the control cables and replace the wing gap fairings and the airframe
      will be whole again.
      
      The list of to-do items is getting shorter.  I should be able to put fuel in it
      in a few more weekends.  Got a fishing trip up Jake's way the weekend after next
      for some winter steelhead at Grays Harbor, WA, but that's just a minor distraction
      ;o)
      
      --------
      Oscar Zuniga
      Medford, OR
      Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      A75 power
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418392#418392
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0611_859.jpg
      
      
Message 8
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: Cobra Torches... | 
      
      Are these Cobra torches simlar to the Henrob torches?=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Satu
      rday, February 8, 2014 7:26 PM, Jerry Dotson <jdotson@centurylink.net> wrot
      urylink.net>=0A=0AI have never had a Cobra torch in my hand but would like 
      to comment anyway. I have a Smith Airline torch that was my Dad's. He welde
      d engine mounts for North American during WWII, then engine mounts and land
      ing gear for Luscombe and Swift. My opinion of quality welds depends mostly
       with the skill of the person with the torch in their hand. I did all my Pi
      et welding with the Smith except the engine mount just for nostalgia sake. 
      My son welded the mount with my Miller 330 tig machine.=0AThe idea that the
       Cobra is hotter than a regular torch is advertising BS. Fuel/oxygen ratio 
      determines flame temp. All that said I don't claim to be an expert........j
      ust seen a lot of welds. There is absolutely no substitute for a good set o
      f regulators that hold a setting. Victor 2 stage is my favorite but pricey.
      =0A- Notice how many tips are there in the picture. Having the right size
       tip makes you look better than you really are!=0A=0A--------=0AJerry Dotso
      n=0A=0AFirst flight June 16,2012=0AFlying in phase 2=0ALycoming O-235 C2C
      =0AJay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead 
      this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=
      418385#418385=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAttachments: =0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/
      =
      
Message 9
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: Scout's got wings | 
      
      
      Looks like a bright sunny day up there in Oregon! Nice day to give that ol' Bird
      dome wings. Good work.
      
      Ray Krause
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      > On Feb 8, 2014, at 8:01 PM, "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
      > 
      > 
      > Today was the day.... hung the wings.  The last time the wings were on the airplane
      was December 2012, when Steve Dortch, John Kuhfahl, Norris Warner, Craig
      Wall, my brother David, and a cast of extras all helped me take the airplane
      apart and load it into the big Ryder truck for the trip from TX to Oregon.  Now
      it's back together with all new wing and strut attach hardware and I just need
      to reconnect the control cables and replace the wing gap fairings and the
      airframe will be whole again.
      > 
      > The list of to-do items is getting shorter.  I should be able to put fuel in
      it in a few more weekends.  Got a fishing trip up Jake's way the weekend after
      next for some winter steelhead at Grays Harbor, WA, but that's just a minor distraction
      ;o)
      > 
      > --------
      > Oscar Zuniga
      > Medford, OR
      > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      > A75 power
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418392#418392
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Attachments: 
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0611_859.jpg
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
Message 10
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: Feb 20 to 24, hangar gathering, doing "stuff", Cha | 
      
      
      The answer to your second question... yes.  At a pretty good pace.
      
      The first question, the formal addy is 335 Castlerock Ln, Chickamauga GA 30707.
      
      Informally, the closest exit off I 75 is Battlefield.  The closest exit off I 59
      is Trenton.  Off I 24 is tougher, Broad Street in Chattanooga TN...
      
      Basically, there's Chickamauga National Battlefield Park.  Downtown Chickamauga
      is about 3 miles south of that, on Highway 27.  Three more miles south of Chickamauga
      on Highway 341 is where I live.  The intersection of HW 341 and Bonds
      Rd.  You can only go west.  About 1/2 mile from there is a blue street sign for
      Castlerock Ln.  you can  only go north.  At the end of that, about 1500 feet,
      is the place.  
      
      Call from anywhere, we'll dispatch you in, 423 580 1383, or 423 596 7770.
      
      Look forward to meeting you!
      
      Tools
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418398#418398
      
      
Message 11
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: Cobra Torches... | 
      
      
      Exactly the same.  Also known as at least one other propietary name...
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418399#418399
      
      
 
Other Matronics Email List Services
 
 
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
 
 
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
  
 |