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     1. 07:34 AM - controls and howitzer shots (Douwe Blumberg)
     2. 07:59 AM - Re: Brodhead 2014 (Luke W.)
     3. 08:00 AM - Re: controls and howitzer shots (Gary Boothe)
     4. 03:09 PM - tense about cables (Michael Weston)
     5. 04:05 PM - Re: tense about cables (Gary Boothe)
     6. 04:55 PM - tail hinges (nightmare)
     7. 05:07 PM - Re: tail hinges (glenschweizer@yahoo.com)
     8. 05:26 PM - Re: tail hinges (tools)
     9. 05:31 PM - Re: tense about cables (tools)
    10. 07:50 PM - Re: tail hinges (nightmare)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | controls and howitzer shots | 
      
      The "Howitzer shot" was 2010.  Marci and I were in our tent and I was sure
      it hit right next to us, it was absolutely CRAZY!!
      
      
      I too love the feel of the controls in the air, and they are built to plans.
      I honestly can hold the stick between two fingers and that is all the power
      it takes most of the time, truly delightful.
      
      
      I think it's great to play around with changes, and there are a few things
      that can actually be "improved" a bit.  Just be aware that the plane flies
      great as designed and every "change" or "improvement" made adds time to the
      build, which increases the odds that you'll run out of poop and quit the
      project.  I say keep the build process as slimmed down as possible, it's
      already a monumental job to finish one.
      
      
      Hope I remember how to fly when this weather breaks!!  Dang!!!
      
      
      Douwe
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Brodhead 2014 | 
      
      
      That was a night! My 8 yr. old daughter was sleeping next to me and all I did was
      worry about her all night. The next morning I asked how she did and all she
      could say was "what storm", she sleep right thru it. We had the Hatz there and
      I opened the lower inspections plates and let out 10 gallons of water from the
      lower wings,even with the drain holes open.  Memories!
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418654#418654
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: controls and howitzer shots | 
      
      > "...it=99s already a monumental job to finish one..."
      Not to mention finishing one twice! Douwe, you are legendary (as well as a c
      ouple others)...a living example of perseverance!
      
      Gary
      NX308MB
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      > On Feb 13, 2014, at 7:35 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net
      > wrote:
      > 
      > The =9CHowitzer shot=9D was 2010.  Marci and I were in our ten
      t and I was sure it hit right next to us, it was absolutely CRAZY!!
      >  
      > I too love the feel of the controls in the air, and they are built to plan
      s.  I honestly can hold the stick between two fingers and that is all the po
      wer it takes most of the time, truly delightful.
      >  
      > I think it=99s great to play around with changes, and there are a fe
      w things that can actually be =9Cimproved=9D a bit.  Just be awa
      re that the plane flies great as designed and every =9Cchange=9D
       or =9Cimprovement=9D made adds time to the build, which increas
      es the odds that you=99ll run out of poop and quit the project.  I say
       keep the build process as slimmed down as possible, it=99s already a m
      onumental job to finish one.
      >  
      > Hope I remember how to fly when this weather breaks!!  Dang!!!
      >  
      > Douwe
      > 
      > 
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| Subject:  | tense about cables | 
      
      
      hey,i'm making the brace cables for the fin and horizontal stabilizer, but... how
      tight should they be, and what is the procedure for checking? thanks mike w.
      
      
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| Subject:  | tense about cables | 
      
      
      Michael,
      
      Did you know that the matronics web site has a search engine? If you input
      "Cable Tension", you will see 101 entries! 
      
      The answer is simply a dull "THWANG." Make all the same tone and you'll be
      golden.
      
      Gary Boothe
      NX308MB
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
      Weston
      Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 3:09 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: tense about cables
      
      --> <smikewest@comcast.net>
      
      hey,i'm making the brace cables for the fin and horizontal stabilizer,
      but... how tight should they be, and what is the procedure for checking?
      thanks mike w.
      
      
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      Hey guys. Fabricating tail feather hinges as per plans. Those who have also done
      so, couple of questions.
         1. Clevis pin / cotter pin arrangement or nut and bolt?
              
          2. Plans hinge has just enough room on female hinge  to allow male hinge to
      fit with no washer. Should I make a little wider to allow a washer in there?
      
         3. Should I recess into wood? And does fabric need to be cut out of that recess
      when the time comes?
      
         4. If you are south of the equator and you flush a toilet which way does the
      water spin?
      
      --------
      Paul Donahue
      Started 8-3-12
      do not archive
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418676#418676
      
      
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      Hey Paul
      Don't know answers to 1-3,but number 4 here goes yes and water comes up from the
      bottom of toilet cause it's upside down. Pretty obvious ,yes?
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      > On Feb 13, 2014, at 4:54 PM, "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com> wrote:
      > 
      > 
      > Hey guys. Fabricating tail feather hinges as per plans. Those who have also done
      so, couple of questions.
      >   1. Clevis pin / cotter pin arrangement or nut and bolt?
      > 
      >    2. Plans hinge has just enough room on female hinge  to allow male hinge to
      fit with no washer. Should I make a little wider to allow a washer in there?
      > 
      >   3. Should I recess into wood? And does fabric need to be cut out of that recess
      when the time comes?
      > 
      >   4. If you are south of the equator and you flush a toilet which way does the
      water spin?
      > 
      > --------
      > Paul Donahue
      > Started 8-3-12
      > do not archive
      > 
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      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418676#418676
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      1.  Clevis and cotter pin.
      
      2.  I've got no washer... never really thought about it.
      
      3.  Seen it done all four ways.  Recessed, covered over.  Recessed and cut out.
      Surface mounted covered and cut out.
      
      My preference would be leave flush, install hinges after covering, which means
      you'll need nut plates inside.   This seems to be the best arrangement for maintenance.
      Also probably the neatest in terms of covering and painting.  Cutting
      around them is harder for me.  
      
      I recessed them in MSP/St Pauls EAA chapter project.  If I were to do that again,
      I would use flat head fasteners.  
      
      4.  Always meant to look, but forgot.  Got no clue!
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418678#418678
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: tense about cables | 
      
      
      Pretty sure Glider and Flying Manual says to make them tight enough that nothing
      moves or goes slack when you pick up the tail out by the connect point on the
      stab.  That's how I put mine back on.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418679#418679
      
      
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      Great Tools. Ill be doing all the above as you described. Thankyou
      
      --------
      Paul Donahue
      Started 8-3-12
      do not archive
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418681#418681
      
      
 
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