---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 02/13/14: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:34 AM - controls and howitzer shots (Douwe Blumberg) 2. 07:59 AM - Re: Brodhead 2014 (Luke W.) 3. 08:00 AM - Re: controls and howitzer shots (Gary Boothe) 4. 03:09 PM - tense about cables (Michael Weston) 5. 04:05 PM - Re: tense about cables (Gary Boothe) 6. 04:55 PM - tail hinges (nightmare) 7. 05:07 PM - Re: tail hinges (glenschweizer@yahoo.com) 8. 05:26 PM - Re: tail hinges (tools) 9. 05:31 PM - Re: tense about cables (tools) 10. 07:50 PM - Re: tail hinges (nightmare) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:34:56 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: controls and howitzer shots The "Howitzer shot" was 2010. Marci and I were in our tent and I was sure it hit right next to us, it was absolutely CRAZY!! I too love the feel of the controls in the air, and they are built to plans. I honestly can hold the stick between two fingers and that is all the power it takes most of the time, truly delightful. I think it's great to play around with changes, and there are a few things that can actually be "improved" a bit. Just be aware that the plane flies great as designed and every "change" or "improvement" made adds time to the build, which increases the odds that you'll run out of poop and quit the project. I say keep the build process as slimmed down as possible, it's already a monumental job to finish one. Hope I remember how to fly when this weather breaks!! Dang!!! Douwe ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:51 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead 2014 From: "Luke W." That was a night! My 8 yr. old daughter was sleeping next to me and all I did was worry about her all night. The next morning I asked how she did and all she could say was "what storm", she sleep right thru it. We had the Hatz there and I opened the lower inspections plates and let out 10 gallons of water from the lower wings,even with the drain holes open. Memories! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418654#418654 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:00:22 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: controls and howitzer shots From: Gary Boothe > "...it=99s already a monumental job to finish one..." Not to mention finishing one twice! Douwe, you are legendary (as well as a c ouple others)...a living example of perseverance! Gary NX308MB Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 13, 2014, at 7:35 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" wrote: > > The =9CHowitzer shot=9D was 2010. Marci and I were in our ten t and I was sure it hit right next to us, it was absolutely CRAZY!! > > I too love the feel of the controls in the air, and they are built to plan s. I honestly can hold the stick between two fingers and that is all the po wer it takes most of the time, truly delightful. > > I think it=99s great to play around with changes, and there are a fe w things that can actually be =9Cimproved=9D a bit. Just be awa re that the plane flies great as designed and every =9Cchange=9D or =9Cimprovement=9D made adds time to the build, which increas es the odds that you=99ll run out of poop and quit the project. I say keep the build process as slimmed down as possible, it=99s already a m onumental job to finish one. > > Hope I remember how to fly when this weather breaks!! Dang!!! > > Douwe > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:09:38 PM PST US From: Michael Weston Subject: Pietenpol-List: tense about cables hey,i'm making the brace cables for the fin and horizontal stabilizer, but... how tight should they be, and what is the procedure for checking? thanks mike w. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:05:57 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: tense about cables Michael, Did you know that the matronics web site has a search engine? If you input "Cable Tension", you will see 101 entries! The answer is simply a dull "THWANG." Make all the same tone and you'll be golden. Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Weston Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 3:09 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: tense about cables --> hey,i'm making the brace cables for the fin and horizontal stabilizer, but... how tight should they be, and what is the procedure for checking? thanks mike w. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:55:07 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: tail hinges From: "nightmare" Hey guys. Fabricating tail feather hinges as per plans. Those who have also done so, couple of questions. 1. Clevis pin / cotter pin arrangement or nut and bolt? 2. Plans hinge has just enough room on female hinge to allow male hinge to fit with no washer. Should I make a little wider to allow a washer in there? 3. Should I recess into wood? And does fabric need to be cut out of that recess when the time comes? 4. If you are south of the equator and you flush a toilet which way does the water spin? -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418676#418676 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:07:49 PM PST US From: glenschweizer@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tail hinges Hey Paul Don't know answers to 1-3,but number 4 here goes yes and water comes up from the bottom of toilet cause it's upside down. Pretty obvious ,yes? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 13, 2014, at 4:54 PM, "nightmare" wrote: > > > Hey guys. Fabricating tail feather hinges as per plans. Those who have also done so, couple of questions. > 1. Clevis pin / cotter pin arrangement or nut and bolt? > > 2. Plans hinge has just enough room on female hinge to allow male hinge to fit with no washer. Should I make a little wider to allow a washer in there? > > 3. Should I recess into wood? And does fabric need to be cut out of that recess when the time comes? > > 4. If you are south of the equator and you flush a toilet which way does the water spin? > > -------- > Paul Donahue > Started 8-3-12 > do not archive > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418676#418676 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:26:47 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: tail hinges From: "tools" 1. Clevis and cotter pin. 2. I've got no washer... never really thought about it. 3. Seen it done all four ways. Recessed, covered over. Recessed and cut out. Surface mounted covered and cut out. My preference would be leave flush, install hinges after covering, which means you'll need nut plates inside. This seems to be the best arrangement for maintenance. Also probably the neatest in terms of covering and painting. Cutting around them is harder for me. I recessed them in MSP/St Pauls EAA chapter project. If I were to do that again, I would use flat head fasteners. 4. Always meant to look, but forgot. Got no clue! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418678#418678 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:31:19 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: tense about cables From: "tools" Pretty sure Glider and Flying Manual says to make them tight enough that nothing moves or goes slack when you pick up the tail out by the connect point on the stab. That's how I put mine back on. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418679#418679 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:50:11 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: tail hinges From: "nightmare" Great Tools. Ill be doing all the above as you described. 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