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1. 12:55 AM - Piet parts for sale (Timothy Willis)
2. 04:02 AM - Re: Hello again (danhelsper@aol.com)
3. 04:31 AM - Board of Crumudgeons- encouragement from my wife (danhelsper@aol.com)
4. 05:49 AM - Re: Hello again (Bill Church)
5. 06:07 AM - Re: Hello again (AircamperN11MS)
6. 06:08 AM - Re: Board of Crumudgeons- encouragement from my wife (AircamperN11MS)
7. 07:30 AM - smallest recommended tailwheel (nightmare)
8. 08:01 AM - Re: smallest recommended tailwheel (Brian Kenney)
9. 08:44 AM - Re: my Uncle Tony talks about how to swing a compass...and then (taildrags)
10. 08:51 AM - Re: smallest recommended tailwheel (shad bell)
11. 09:01 AM - Re: Re: my Uncle Tony talks about how to swing a compass...and then (Ken Bickers)
12. 09:26 AM - Re: smallest recommended tailwheel (Jack Phillips)
13. 10:07 AM - Re: smallest recommended tailwheel (nightmare)
14. 10:12 AM - Re: smallest recommended tailwheel (danhelsper@aol.com)
15. 12:11 PM - Re: smallest recommended tailwheel (nightmare)
16. 02:30 PM - Re: Corvair engine core (LNelson)
17. 05:00 PM - Fuselage Width (john francis)
18. 05:08 PM - Re: Fuselage Width (Gary Boothe)
19. 05:14 PM - Re: Fuselage Width (john francis)
20. 05:33 PM - Re: Re: Fuselage Width (Gary Boothe)
21. 07:23 PM - Which one? (glenschweizer@yahoo.com)
22. 07:45 PM - Re: Which one? (Gary Boothe)
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| Subject: | Piet parts for sale |
Brian,
I am interested in your cowl. Please give me your phone # in a direct
reply and let's discuss. Do you have a nose bowl as well?
Also, do you have diagonal cabanes (from top motor mount to wing attach
points)?
Tim in central TX
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Time: 11:35:13 AM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet Wings for Sale + Other Parts
From: "N219BR" <briankdurham@gmail.com>
Hi All,
I acquired a Piet that's taking up valuable space right now. I'm looking at
parting
it out. I have an A-65 mount/cowl, 3 piece wings, cub gear, fittings, and
1.5 Corvair cores, plus lots of assorted odds and ends.
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Welcome back Doc! I was wondering what you and Dee were going to do going f
orward. Glad to have you here.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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From: Doc Mosher <docshop@tds.net>
Sent: Thu, Mar 6, 2014 3:41 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hello again
In the past, as publisher of the BPA News, I thought it inappropriate
to actively
participate in Matt's Matronics Pietenpol discussion group. Now is
the time for
me to again become a participant.
Doc Mosher
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| Subject: | Board of Crumudgeons- encouragement from my wife |
The other day, as were doing our usual routine of sipping morning coffee an
d browsing the internet, I happened to mentioned to my wife that I was cont
emplating applying for a position on the new Board. She asked what the qual
ifications were in order to serve. During the course of this conversation,
I explained that one of the duties would be to shame people. She pondered f
or a moment... exclaiming...."you're good at that".....
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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Not sure why you felt it would have been inappropriate for you, as publisher of
the BPA News, to participate in discussions in this group. Nonetheless, welcome
back, Doc.
Let 'er rip.
Bill C.
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Welcome back Doc, it will be good to read some of your words again.
Cheers,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Board of Crumudgeons- encouragement from my wife |
Well Dan,
That sounded like an acceptance speech to me. Have fun with it.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | smallest recommended tailwheel |
about to buy a tailwheel and was going to go with the AS&S homebuilders 4 inch
tailwheel for $23.85, but first wanted to see if anyone has successfully gone
with an even smaller one . trying to reduce the weight at the tail. don't see
a smaller one at AS&S, so maybe it would have to be a non aircraft wheel. any
thoughts.
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
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| Subject: | smallest recommended tailwheel |
I tried for a few years with grocery cart wheels but they didn't work. The
most critical part of the wheel is the bearing.
I tried an unorthodox approach of using two snowmobile boogie wheels side b
y side. These have high speed sealed bearings with a rubber outside and a p
lastic wheel. They have worn a bit but have not given me any trouble for ov
er 20 years. That is on pavement for ten years and turf for 10 years.
I don't know exactly what they are for =2C I think for a skidoo=2C but have
n't seen them recently in any catalogue. One day I will need to replace the
m.
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: smallest recommended tailwheel
> From: pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com
> Date: Fri=2C 7 Mar 2014 07:29:50 -0800
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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4 inch tailwheel for $23.85=2C but first wanted to see if anyone has succes
sfully gone with an even smaller one . trying to reduce the weight at the
tail. don't see a smaller one at AS&S=2C so maybe it would have to be a no
n aircraft wheel. any thoughts.
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> Started 8-3-12
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| Subject: | Re: my Uncle Tony talks about how to swing a compass...and |
then
I'm probably going to get another lashing by Mr. Hyde for keeping the compass thread
alive, but I thought I would mention that the regs consider "topping off"
or refilling the compass in a certified aircraft to be a repair that can legally
only be done by a Certified Repair Station, and only the manufacturer's recommended
and STC'd compass fluid can be used.
In experimentals, anything goes but I have read that the use of kerosene or Jet
A can cause the compass markings to fade to yellow over time.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: smallest recommended tailwheel |
We had a smaller one on the piet a few times, might have been from wicks, 3
inch I think.- They did not last too long on pavement, a 2-3 flying seas
ons.- They are also prone to giving a rough ride on the rough grass strip
s, as they fall into every litle rut, tractor tire track etc (hamers the he
ck out of the tailpost, tailwhell arm.).- The 4 inch we have now gives a
little better ride.=0A-=0AShad=0A=0A=0A________________________________
=0AFrom: Brian Kenney <brian.kenney@live.ca>=0ATo: "pietenpol-list@matronic
s.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Friday, March 7, 2014 11:01
AM=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: smallest recommended tailwheel=0A=0A=0A
=0AI tried for a few years with grocery cart wheels but they didn't work. T
he most critical part of the wheel is the bearing. =0AI tried an unorthodox
approach of using two snowmobile boogie wheels side by side. These have hi
gh speed sealed bearings with a rubber outside and a plastic wheel. They ha
ve worn a bit but have not given me any trouble for over-20 years. That i
s on pavement for ten years and turf for-10 years.=0A-=0AI don't know e
xactly what they are for , I think-for a skidoo, but haven't seen them re
cently in any catalogue. One day I will need to replace them.=0A=0A-=0A
=0A> Subject: Pietenpol-List: smallest recommended tailwheel=0A> From: paul
donahuepilot@yahoo.com=0A> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 07:29:50 -0800=0A> To: pie
ightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>=0A> =0A> about to buy a tailwheel an
d was going to go with the AS&S homebuilders 4 inch tailwheel for $23.85, b
ut first wanted to see if anyone has successfully gone with an even smaller
one . trying to reduce the weight at the tail. don't see a smaller one at
AS&S, so maybe it would have to be a non aircraft wheel. any thoughts.=0A>
=0A> --------=0A> Paul Donahue=0A> Started 8-3-12=0A> do not archive=0A>
=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Read this topic online here:=0A> =0A> http://forums.mat
ronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=419917#419917=0A> =0A> =0A>==0A> =0A> =0A>
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| Subject: | Re: my Uncle Tony talks about how to swing a compass...and |
then
"regs consider "topping off" or refilling the compass in a certified
aircraft to be a repair that can legally only be done by a Certified Repair
Station"
Oscar, this helps me understand why for the past couple decades the
mechanics that have worked on my certified plane have not wanted to bother
with the compass when it got low on fluid, instead telling me it was
something I could easily do by buying a kit from ASC. Kept their hands
clean. Kept the compass topped up. Now that I think about it, I think it
is getting low once again. On my Piet, I'm using a sealed marine compass,
but don't tell anyone. Ken
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:44 AM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> I'm probably going to get another lashing by Mr. Hyde for keeping the
> compass thread alive, but I thought I would mention that the regs consider
> "topping off" or refilling the compass in a certified aircraft to be a
> repair that can legally only be done by a Certified Repair Station, and
> only the manufacturer's recommended and STC'd compass fluid can be used.
>
> In experimentals, anything goes but I have read that the use of kerosene
> or Jet A can cause the compass markings to fade to yellow over time.
>
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> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
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| Subject: | smallest recommended tailwheel |
Paul,
I've got the Homebuilder's special 4" tailwheel on mine. It works fine, but
I wouldn't want it any smaller. Since most tailwheels are 6" or 8" a 4"
tailwheel looks tiny, and I wouldn't want to land on grass with anything
smaller.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
With 4" of fresh new snow on the ground - sure wish I'd built skis from Don
Emch's plans last summer.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nightmare
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:30 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: smallest recommended tailwheel
<pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
about to buy a tailwheel and was going to go with the AS&S homebuilders 4
inch tailwheel for $23.85, but first wanted to see if anyone has
successfully gone with an even smaller one . trying to reduce the weight at
the tail. don't see a smaller one at AS&S, so maybe it would have to be a
non aircraft wheel. any thoughts.
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
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| Subject: | Re: smallest recommended tailwheel |
looks like i'll be going with the 4 inch wheel. thanks guys.
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Paul Donahue
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| Subject: | Re: smallest recommended tailwheel |
Paul,
I am using a hard rubber tailwheel that I got from Wicks. Almost no detecta
ble wear so far. The one bought was only 3", but this is the same style. T
his one here is 3-12". http://aircraftproducts.wicksaircraft.com/item/all-
categories/3-1-2-non-pneumatic-tailwheel/twnp-3-5?plpver=10&categid=100
&prodid=3285&origin=keyword
It has worked wonderfully so far.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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From: nightmare <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
Sent: Fri, Mar 7, 2014 9:30 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: smallest recommended tailwheel
om>
about to buy a tailwheel and was going to go with the AS&S homebuilders 4
inch
tailwheel for $23.85, but first wanted to see if anyone has successfully go
ne
with an even smaller one . trying to reduce the weight at the tail. don't
see
a smaller one at AS&S, so maybe it would have to be a non aircraft wheel. a
ny
thoughts.
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
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| Subject: | Re: smallest recommended tailwheel |
I'll check it out Dan. But only if it's on the list of "formerly used by Bernie"
parts. Otherwise I can't say I built it to plans. Lol
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Paul Donahue
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair engine core |
There are a few corvair specific yards here in az. Also craigslist in Phoenix
az has a few around 150.
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I am about to join the two sides of my fuselage together. I found the width dimensions
in the orginal plans but not for the extended fuselage (supplementary
plans). How did you all determine what they are?
John
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He only changed the length, and the location of the uprights and diag's.
Width stayed the same.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of john francis
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 5:00 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Width
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I am about to join the two sides of my fuselage together. I found the width
dimensions in the orginal plans but not for the extended fuselage
(supplementary plans). How did you all determine what they are?
John
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Width |
Thanks Gary, Ill look at that in the morning. Im in for the night.
John
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Width |
...but you are right, no width dimension is given on the supplemental...
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 5:14 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Width
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Thanks Gary, Ill look at that in the morning. Im in for the night.
John
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It's time to get serious and I could use some advice. How many different sets
of plans are there for piets? I have the set published originally in the flying
and glider manual. Are these different from the ones available from the pietenpol
family? What about those available from St. Croix? How about the biplane
version? Any input would be very appreciated Glen
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There is only one Pietenpol...get the plans from the Pietenpol family. They
will have updates available not in the Flying and Glider Manual. Anything
else is not a Pietenpol.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
glenschweizer@yahoo.com
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 7:23 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Which one?
It's time to get serious and I could use some advice. How many different
sets of plans are there for piets? I have the set published originally in
the flying and glider manual. Are these different from the ones available
from the pietenpol family? What about those available from St. Croix? How
about the biplane version? Any input would be very appreciated
Glen
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