---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/07/14: 22 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:55 AM - Piet parts for sale (Timothy Willis) 2. 04:02 AM - Re: Hello again (danhelsper@aol.com) 3. 04:31 AM - Board of Crumudgeons- encouragement from my wife (danhelsper@aol.com) 4. 05:49 AM - Re: Hello again (Bill Church) 5. 06:07 AM - Re: Hello again (AircamperN11MS) 6. 06:08 AM - Re: Board of Crumudgeons- encouragement from my wife (AircamperN11MS) 7. 07:30 AM - smallest recommended tailwheel (nightmare) 8. 08:01 AM - Re: smallest recommended tailwheel (Brian Kenney) 9. 08:44 AM - Re: my Uncle Tony talks about how to swing a compass...and then (taildrags) 10. 08:51 AM - Re: smallest recommended tailwheel (shad bell) 11. 09:01 AM - Re: Re: my Uncle Tony talks about how to swing a compass...and then (Ken Bickers) 12. 09:26 AM - Re: smallest recommended tailwheel (Jack Phillips) 13. 10:07 AM - Re: smallest recommended tailwheel (nightmare) 14. 10:12 AM - Re: smallest recommended tailwheel (danhelsper@aol.com) 15. 12:11 PM - Re: smallest recommended tailwheel (nightmare) 16. 02:30 PM - Re: Corvair engine core (LNelson) 17. 05:00 PM - Fuselage Width (john francis) 18. 05:08 PM - Re: Fuselage Width (Gary Boothe) 19. 05:14 PM - Re: Fuselage Width (john francis) 20. 05:33 PM - Re: Re: Fuselage Width (Gary Boothe) 21. 07:23 PM - Which one? (glenschweizer@yahoo.com) 22. 07:45 PM - Re: Which one? (Gary Boothe) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:55:58 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet parts for sale From: Timothy Willis Brian, I am interested in your cowl. Please give me your phone # in a direct reply and let's discuss. Do you have a nose bowl as well? Also, do you have diagonal cabanes (from top motor mount to wing attach points)? Tim in central TX ================== Time: 11:35:13 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet Wings for Sale + Other Parts From: "N219BR" Hi All, I acquired a Piet that's taking up valuable space right now. I'm looking at parting it out. I have an A-65 mount/cowl, 3 piece wings, cub gear, fittings, and 1.5 Corvair cores, plus lots of assorted odds and ends. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:02:46 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hello again From: danhelsper@aol.com Welcome back Doc! I was wondering what you and Dee were going to do going f orward. Glad to have you here. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: Doc Mosher Sent: Thu, Mar 6, 2014 3:41 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hello again In the past, as publisher of the BPA News, I thought it inappropriate to actively participate in Matt's Matronics Pietenpol discussion group. Now is the time for me to again become a participant. Doc Mosher ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:31:33 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Board of Crumudgeons- encouragement from my wife From: danhelsper@aol.com The other day, as were doing our usual routine of sipping morning coffee an d browsing the internet, I happened to mentioned to my wife that I was cont emplating applying for a position on the new Board. She asked what the qual ifications were in order to serve. During the course of this conversation, I explained that one of the duties would be to shame people. She pondered f or a moment... exclaiming...."you're good at that"..... Dan Helsper Puryear, TN ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:07 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hello again From: "Bill Church" Not sure why you felt it would have been inappropriate for you, as publisher of the BPA News, to participate in discussions in this group. Nonetheless, welcome back, Doc. Let 'er rip. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=419911#419911 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:09 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hello again From: "AircamperN11MS" Welcome back Doc, it will be good to read some of your words again. Cheers, -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=419912#419912 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:08:27 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Board of Crumudgeons- encouragement from my wife From: "AircamperN11MS" Well Dan, That sounded like an acceptance speech to me. Have fun with it. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=419913#419913 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:30:11 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: smallest recommended tailwheel From: "nightmare" about to buy a tailwheel and was going to go with the AS&S homebuilders 4 inch tailwheel for $23.85, but first wanted to see if anyone has successfully gone with an even smaller one . trying to reduce the weight at the tail. don't see a smaller one at AS&S, so maybe it would have to be a non aircraft wheel. any thoughts. -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=419917#419917 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:49 AM PST US From: Brian Kenney Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: smallest recommended tailwheel I tried for a few years with grocery cart wheels but they didn't work. The most critical part of the wheel is the bearing. I tried an unorthodox approach of using two snowmobile boogie wheels side b y side. These have high speed sealed bearings with a rubber outside and a p lastic wheel. They have worn a bit but have not given me any trouble for ov er 20 years. That is on pavement for ten years and turf for 10 years. I don't know exactly what they are for =2C I think for a skidoo=2C but have n't seen them recently in any catalogue. One day I will need to replace the m. > Subject: Pietenpol-List: smallest recommended tailwheel > From: pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com > Date: Fri=2C 7 Mar 2014 07:29:50 -0800 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > .com> > > about to buy a tailwheel and was going to go with the AS&S homebuilders 4 inch tailwheel for $23.85=2C but first wanted to see if anyone has succes sfully gone with an even smaller one . trying to reduce the weight at the tail. don't see a smaller one at AS&S=2C so maybe it would have to be a no n aircraft wheel. any thoughts. > > -------- > Paul Donahue > Started 8-3-12 > do not archive > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=419917#419917 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:44:32 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: my Uncle Tony talks about how to swing a compass...and then From: "taildrags" I'm probably going to get another lashing by Mr. Hyde for keeping the compass thread alive, but I thought I would mention that the regs consider "topping off" or refilling the compass in a certified aircraft to be a repair that can legally only be done by a Certified Repair Station, and only the manufacturer's recommended and STC'd compass fluid can be used. In experimentals, anything goes but I have read that the use of kerosene or Jet A can cause the compass markings to fade to yellow over time. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=419920#419920 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:51:22 AM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: smallest recommended tailwheel We had a smaller one on the piet a few times, might have been from wicks, 3 inch I think.- They did not last too long on pavement, a 2-3 flying seas ons.- They are also prone to giving a rough ride on the rough grass strip s, as they fall into every litle rut, tractor tire track etc (hamers the he ck out of the tailpost, tailwhell arm.).- The 4 inch we have now gives a little better ride.=0A-=0AShad=0A=0A=0A________________________________ =0AFrom: Brian Kenney =0ATo: "pietenpol-list@matronic s.com" =0ASent: Friday, March 7, 2014 11:01 AM=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: smallest recommended tailwheel=0A=0A=0A =0AI tried for a few years with grocery cart wheels but they didn't work. T he most critical part of the wheel is the bearing. =0AI tried an unorthodox approach of using two snowmobile boogie wheels side by side. These have hi gh speed sealed bearings with a rubber outside and a plastic wheel. They ha ve worn a bit but have not given me any trouble for over-20 years. That i s on pavement for ten years and turf for-10 years.=0A-=0AI don't know e xactly what they are for , I think-for a skidoo, but haven't seen them re cently in any catalogue. One day I will need to replace them.=0A=0A-=0A =0A> Subject: Pietenpol-List: smallest recommended tailwheel=0A> From: paul donahuepilot@yahoo.com=0A> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 07:29:50 -0800=0A> To: pie ightmare" =0A> =0A> about to buy a tailwheel an d was going to go with the AS&S homebuilders 4 inch tailwheel for $23.85, b ut first wanted to see if anyone has successfully gone with an even smaller one . trying to reduce the weight at the tail. don't see a smaller one at AS&S, so maybe it would have to be a non aircraft wheel. any thoughts.=0A> =0A> --------=0A> Paul Donahue=0A> Started 8-3-12=0A> do not archive=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Read this topic online here:=0A> =0A> http://forums.mat ronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=419917#419917=0A> =0A> =0A>==0A> =0A> =0A> ================ ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:01:14 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: my Uncle Tony talks about how to swing a compass...and then From: Ken Bickers "regs consider "topping off" or refilling the compass in a certified aircraft to be a repair that can legally only be done by a Certified Repair Station" Oscar, this helps me understand why for the past couple decades the mechanics that have worked on my certified plane have not wanted to bother with the compass when it got low on fluid, instead telling me it was something I could easily do by buying a kit from ASC. Kept their hands clean. Kept the compass topped up. Now that I think about it, I think it is getting low once again. On my Piet, I'm using a sealed marine compass, but don't tell anyone. Ken On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:44 AM, taildrags wrote: > > I'm probably going to get another lashing by Mr. Hyde for keeping the > compass thread alive, but I thought I would mention that the regs consider > "topping off" or refilling the compass in a certified aircraft to be a > repair that can legally only be done by a Certified Repair Station, and > only the manufacturer's recommended and STC'd compass fluid can be used. > > In experimentals, anything goes but I have read that the use of kerosene > or Jet A can cause the compass markings to fade to yellow over time. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=419920#419920 > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:26:50 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: smallest recommended tailwheel Paul, I've got the Homebuilder's special 4" tailwheel on mine. It works fine, but I wouldn't want it any smaller. Since most tailwheels are 6" or 8" a 4" tailwheel looks tiny, and I wouldn't want to land on grass with anything smaller. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia With 4" of fresh new snow on the ground - sure wish I'd built skis from Don Emch's plans last summer. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nightmare Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:30 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: smallest recommended tailwheel about to buy a tailwheel and was going to go with the AS&S homebuilders 4 inch tailwheel for $23.85, but first wanted to see if anyone has successfully gone with an even smaller one . trying to reduce the weight at the tail. don't see a smaller one at AS&S, so maybe it would have to be a non aircraft wheel. any thoughts. -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=419917#419917 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:07:58 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: smallest recommended tailwheel From: "nightmare" looks like i'll be going with the 4 inch wheel. thanks guys. -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=419928#419928 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:12:42 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: smallest recommended tailwheel From: danhelsper@aol.com Paul, I am using a hard rubber tailwheel that I got from Wicks. Almost no detecta ble wear so far. The one bought was only 3", but this is the same style. T his one here is 3-12". http://aircraftproducts.wicksaircraft.com/item/all- categories/3-1-2-non-pneumatic-tailwheel/twnp-3-5?plpver=10&categid=100 &prodid=3285&origin=keyword It has worked wonderfully so far. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: nightmare Sent: Fri, Mar 7, 2014 9:30 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: smallest recommended tailwheel om> about to buy a tailwheel and was going to go with the AS&S homebuilders 4 inch tailwheel for $23.85, but first wanted to see if anyone has successfully go ne with an even smaller one . trying to reduce the weight at the tail. don't see a smaller one at AS&S, so maybe it would have to be a non aircraft wheel. a ny thoughts. -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=419917#419917 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:11:29 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: smallest recommended tailwheel From: "nightmare" I'll check it out Dan. But only if it's on the list of "formerly used by Bernie" parts. Otherwise I can't say I built it to plans. Lol -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=419940#419940 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:30:42 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair engine core From: "LNelson" There are a few corvair specific yards here in az. Also craigslist in Phoenix az has a few around 150. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=419945#419945 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:00:25 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Width From: "john francis" I am about to join the two sides of my fuselage together. I found the width dimensions in the orginal plans but not for the extended fuselage (supplementary plans). How did you all determine what they are? John -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=419958#419958 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fusesides_722.jpg ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:08:22 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Width He only changed the length, and the location of the uprights and diag's. Width stayed the same. Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of john francis Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 5:00 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Width --> I am about to join the two sides of my fuselage together. I found the width dimensions in the orginal plans but not for the extended fuselage (supplementary plans). How did you all determine what they are? John -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=419958#419958 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fusesides_722.jpg ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:14:00 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Width From: "john francis" Thanks Gary, Ill look at that in the morning. Im in for the night. John -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=419960#419960 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:33:27 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Width ...but you are right, no width dimension is given on the supplemental... Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of john francis Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 5:14 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Width --> Thanks Gary, Ill look at that in the morning. Im in for the night. John -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=419960#419960 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 07:23:15 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Which one? From: glenschweizer@yahoo.com It's time to get serious and I could use some advice. How many different sets of plans are there for piets? I have the set published originally in the flying and glider manual. Are these different from the ones available from the pietenpol family? What about those available from St. Croix? How about the biplane version? Any input would be very appreciated Glen Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:45:10 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Which one? There is only one Pietenpol...get the plans from the Pietenpol family. They will have updates available not in the Flying and Glider Manual. Anything else is not a Pietenpol. Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of glenschweizer@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 7:23 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Which one? It's time to get serious and I could use some advice. How many different sets of plans are there for piets? I have the set published originally in the flying and glider manual. Are these different from the ones available from the pietenpol family? What about those available from St. Croix? How about the biplane version? 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