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1. 05:20 AM - Re: Re: Fuselage Width....Curmudeon/purist alert...scramble to fill (Steven Dortch)
2. 06:22 AM - Re: Speaking of Doc... (kevinpurtee)
3. 07:02 AM - Re: Fuselage Width....Curmudeon/purist alert...scramble to fill (john francis)
4. 11:24 AM - Cross Braces (john francis)
5. 02:30 PM - Re: Cross Braces (Catdesigns)
6. 02:41 PM - Re: Cross Braces (Catdesigns)
7. 06:39 PM - Took Jack's advice (Douwe Blumberg)
8. 06:42 PM - my new article, need input (Douwe Blumberg)
9. 09:28 PM - Re: my new article, need input (glenschweizer@yahoo.com)
10. 09:43 PM - Re: my new article, need input (Boatright, Jeffrey)
11. 09:45 PM - Re: my new article, need input (Boatright, Jeffrey)
12. 10:01 PM - Re: my new article, need input (Steven Dortch)
13. 10:27 PM - Re: my new article, need input (glenschweizer@yahoo.com)
14. 11:20 PM - Pietenpol refrence page (William Wynne)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Width....Curmudeon/purist alert...scramble |
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However, you cannot now park on the front row at the gatherings.! ;+}
Blue Skies,
Steve D
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:16 PM, aviken <aviken@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> Sometimes : as they say , even a blind hog will find an acorn . Well I
> guess I found my acorn. I fretted about my sheet of 7/32 ply that I had
> paid a huge sum of dough for only to see that most builders use 1/4 on the
> floor. I finally said ,"the hell with it" and used it anyway. Now I find I
> am in good stead with powers of Curmudeondum. What a nice discovery!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420120#420120
>
>
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Blue Skies,
Steve D
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| Subject: | Re: Speaking of Doc... |
Yeah, he's the Jedi master. I look forward to having him control my mind at Brodhead
this year.
You had a link in your post, William, giving Doc's aviation background/biography.
He's an impressive guy.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
Rebuilding NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Width....Curmudeon/purist alert...scramble |
to fill
danhelsper(at)aol.com wrote:
> John,
>
> Before you make a mistake you might regret forever, please check the plans,
which call for 7/32" floor thickness. 3/8" would be overkill and add unnecessary
weight. I myself would never deviate from the plans (unless the changes were
really necessary or cool-looking) used 1/4" since that is what was available.
>
> There seems to be a real power vacuum on this list since the "resignation".
I am sure it will all be sorted out in due time. Applications for the Board of
Curmudgeons are still being accepted. But, in the end, the purists will prevail,
as they rightly always do.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
>
> My bad. It was a long day and I have the 1/4 plywood in my shop. Dont even
have a piece of 3/8th so I would of caught that.
>
>
>
>
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John Francis
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I cant find these two cross braces on the plans. Can anyone enlighten me as to
why they are there?
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John Francis
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| Subject: | Re: Cross Braces |
John
look at the plan sheet labeled Drawing No. 1. (upper right corner) There are some
detail drawings in the lower right corner of this sheet. Look at the one for
the fire wall. You will see the upper one is for the engine tray and the lower
is to back up the firewall to floor joint.
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Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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| Subject: | Re: Cross Braces |
Woops, I see you have two lower braces. I'm guessing the builder added another
one because the lower one interferes with the lower engine mount fittings and
has to be trimmed short of the side.
This is what some would call a builder improvement............. but is likely not
needed.
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Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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| Subject: | Took Jack's advice |
Hey all,
I took Jack=92s advice and went flying today! Beautiful day, but windy.
Coming right down the runway most of the time with the occasional odd
gust.
Decided to do five take offs and landings and call it a day. I=92m on a
long
asphalt runway so I=92d land right on the threshold, then get airborne
again
and land, so I could squeeze two in. All went well. One time, a gust
got
under a wing and that was great practice as I applied power and got
things
straightened out.
So as Jack said, go fly or go make sawdust!! (in your Pietenpol, your
Grega,
your =BE scale Graham Lee Neurport, your 7/8th scale SE5, your RV
whatever, or
whatever you fly!! Go have fun!!!)
Douwe
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| Subject: | my new article, need input |
Hey,
Don't know if John'll publish it, but I feel compelled to write an article
for the newsletter. Now that I've got a year-and-a-half of flying on
Re-PIET, I thought I'd write an article about things I did that I like,
things I did that I don't like and things I wish I had done.
I know I asked this on the list a few years ago, but would you guys who are
flying send me a list of things you like, don't like or wish you had done??
You can put it on the list or send them to me personally. I think this
could be a handy thing for those still building.
Thanks!
Douwe
douweblumberg@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: my new article, need input |
What a great idea. A compilation of snowflakes! Really looking forward to i
t. I'm currently putting together a bill of materials based on plans in Fly
ing and Glider Manual.
Thanks to all for the insjght regarding my "which one" question. The l
ast thing I wanted to do was to cause controversy. Sorry to hit such a touc
hy subject. I have decided that when I build, it will be kept as close to o
riginal(later versions)as possible using modern covering and AN hardware. T
his is as very time proven airplane you cant argue with success.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 11, 2014, at 6:44 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net
> wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> Don=99t know if John=99ll publish it, but I feel compelled to w
rite an article for the newsletter. Now that I=99ve got a year-and-a-
half of flying on Re-PIET, I thought I=99d write an article about thin
gs I did that I like, things I did that I don=99t like and things I wi
sh I had done.
>
> I know I asked this on the list a few years ago, but would you guys who ar
e flying send me a list of things you like, don=99t like or wish you h
ad done?? You can put it on the list or send them to me personally. I thin
k this could be a handy thing for those still building.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Douwe
>
> douweblumberg@earthlink.net
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: my new article, need input |
It occurs to me that since it appears that that the only plans set currentl
y available for sale new is for a 'real' Pietenpol, the whole issue is de f
acto a nothing-burger.
As to currently flying Piets and Piet-like-flying objects (PLFO?) - run whu
t ya brung, as far as I'm concerned.
And to the purists, please recall that almost an entire generation of curre
nt Brodhead and Piet aficionados got their first (and sometimes only) Piet
or PLFO ride with Kim Strickland in his ' gasp! ' Grega.
Ah yes, it was a simpler time=85we held hands and sang kumbaya by the light
of the campfire ' or around steaks at Flynn's.
--
Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVO
Associate Professor of Ophthalmology
Emory University School of Medicine
From: "glenschweizer@yahoo.com<mailto:glenschweizer@yahoo.com>" <glenschwei
zer@yahoo.com<mailto:glenschweizer@yahoo.com>>
>" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>>
etenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my new article, need input
What a great idea. A compilation of snowflakes! Really looking forward to
it. I'm currently putting together a bill of materials based on plans in
Flying and Glider Manual.
Thanks to all for the insjght regarding my "which one" question. The
last thing I wanted to do was to cause controversy. Sorry to hit such a t
ouchy subject. I have decided that when I build, it will be kept as close
to original(later versions)as possible using modern covering and AN hardwar
e. This is as very time proven airplane you cant argue with success.
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 11, 2014, at 6:44 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net<
mailto:douweblumberg@earthlink.net>> wrote:
Hey,
Don=92t know if John=92ll publish it, but I feel compelled to write an arti
cle for the newsletter. Now that I=92ve got a year-and-a-half of flying on
Re-PIET, I thought I=92d write an article about things I did that I like,
things I did that I don=92t like and things I wish I had done.
I know I asked this on the list a few years ago, but would you guys who are
flying send me a list of things you like, don=92t like or wish you had don
e?? You can put it on the list or send them to me personally. I think thi
s could be a handy thing for those still building.
Thanks!
Douwe
douweblumberg@earthlink.net<mailto:douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
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| Subject: | Re: my new article, need input |
Oops, the little gray cells are getting worn ' It was Ken Stricker, not S
trickland, who hopped all those rides in a Grega.
--
Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVO
Associate Professor of Ophthalmology
Emory University School of Medicine
From: "glenschweizer@yahoo.com<mailto:glenschweizer@yahoo.com>" <glenschwei
zer@yahoo.com<mailto:glenschweizer@yahoo.com>>
>" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>>
etenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my new article, need input
What a great idea. A compilation of snowflakes! Really looking forward to
it. I'm currently putting together a bill of materials based on plans in
Flying and Glider Manual.
Thanks to all for the insjght regarding my "which one" question. The
last thing I wanted to do was to cause controversy. Sorry to hit such a t
ouchy subject. I have decided that when I build, it will be kept as close
to original(later versions)as possible using modern covering and AN hardwar
e. This is as very time proven airplane you cant argue with success.
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 11, 2014, at 6:44 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net<
mailto:douweblumberg@earthlink.net>> wrote:
Hey,
Don=92t know if John=92ll publish it, but I feel compelled to write an arti
cle for the newsletter. Now that I=92ve got a year-and-a-half of flying on
Re-PIET, I thought I=92d write an article about things I did that I like,
things I did that I don=92t like and things I wish I had done.
I know I asked this on the list a few years ago, but would you guys who are
flying send me a list of things you like, don=92t like or wish you had don
e?? You can put it on the list or send them to me personally. I think thi
s could be a handy thing for those still building.
Thanks!
Douwe
douweblumberg@earthlink.net<mailto:douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
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| Subject: | Re: my new article, need input |
Glen, just a thot, Have you thought about Oratex? it advertises in the
flying mags. It is precolored cloth that does not need painting. It is UV
resistant and better than Icecream.
The website implies that it makes childbirth a pleasure and conception a
miracle.
If you used it you simply pick your color fabric and cover the plane.
Just a thot, Mine is already covered.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 11:28 PM, <glenschweizer@yahoo.com> wrote:
> What a great idea. A compilation of snowflakes! Really looking forward
> to it. I'm currently putting together a bill of materials based on plans
> in Flying and Glider Manual.
> Thanks to all for the insjght regarding my "which one" question.
> The last thing I wanted to do was to cause controversy. Sorry to hit such
> a touchy subject. I have decided that when I build, it will be kept as
> close to original(later versions)as possible using modern covering and AN
> hardware. This is as very time proven airplane you cant argue with success.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 11, 2014, at 6:44 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
>
> Don't know if John'll publish it, but I feel compelled to write an article
> for the newsletter. Now that I've got a year-and-a-half of flying on
> Re-PIET, I thought I'd write an article about things I did that I like,
> things I did that I don't like and things I wish I had done.
>
>
> I know I asked this on the list a few years ago, but would you guys who
> are flying send me a list of things you like, don't like or wish you had
> done?? You can put it on the list or send them to me personally. I think
> this could be a handy thing for those still building.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Douwe
>
>
> douweblumberg@earthlink.net
>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: my new article, need input |
I have barely heard of Oratex. Can't be better than my ice cream ! My gela
to is damned good too. I will look into it. Does it get rib stitched? I w
as thinking on the lines of Dacron and (gulp,here we go again) latex.oh no I
said the L word. Back in my ultra lite days I had real good luck with it i
t was quite repairable held up great in Nevada sun looked really good(like p
oly tone). And cheap. I hope that the curmudgeons don't curse me but the t
hought of using dope hasn't occurred to me since the seventies. Way to flam
mable for my liking. Have you used the Oratex System? Could actually be co
st effective will check it out. Thanks
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:01 PM, Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com> wr
ote:
>
> Glen, just a thot, Have you thought about Oratex? it advertises in the fly
ing mags. It is precolored cloth that does not need painting. It is UV resis
tant and better than Icecream.
>
> The website implies that it makes childbirth a pleasure and conception a m
iracle.
>
> If you used it you simply pick your color fabric and cover the plane.
>
> Just a thot, Mine is already covered.
> Blue Skies,
> Steve D
>
>
>> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 11:28 PM, <glenschweizer@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> What a great idea. A compilation of snowflakes! Really looking forward t
o it. I'm currently putting together a bill of materials based on plans in
Flying and Glider Manual.
>> Thanks to all for the insjght regarding my "which one" question. T
he last thing I wanted to do was to cause controversy. Sorry to hit such a t
ouchy subject. I have decided that when I build, it will be kept as close t
o original(later versions)as possible using modern covering and AN hardware.
This is as very time proven airplane you cant argue with success.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 6:44 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.n
et> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Don=99t know if John=99ll publish it, but I feel compelled t
o write an article for the newsletter. Now that I=99ve got a year-and
-a-half of flying on Re-PIET, I thought I=99d write an article about t
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re flying send me a list of things you like, don=99t like or wish you h
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k this could be a handy thing for those still building.
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>>> Douwe
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>>> douweblumberg@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Pietenpol refrence page |
Pieten-people,
If builders and fans have not had a chance to see it, I have a single page on my
main site where all of our Piet and BHP stories are collected. It is at this
link:
http://flycorvair.net/2013/11/28/corvair-pietenpol-reference-page/
It is not all Corvair stuff, it has information on the life and influence of BHP,
Cabanes and fuel lines, Weight and Balance, mount construction, landing gear
design, props, cooling, box spars, etc. There are 34 separate stories there,
a few hundred photos.
I like Corvairs, but I am not a zealot about them. I am glad to provide information
to any builder, I don't care what has or will power his plane. I have many
happy hours behind All manner of Continentals and Lycomings, Radials from PW,
Warner, Wright and the Russians, even Olds and Chevy V-8s....(But never a Rotax
912)... We even own a Schweizer 1-26 that has no motor at all.
If you are a Continental or Ford guy our two webpages still have info you can use. http://www.flycorvair.com/ has pages on carbs, thrust and HP testing, FI and props. http://flycorvair.net/ has nearly 500 stories, many on instrumentation, wiring, flight tests, books and more. Plenty of things to learn there, even if we have nothing for you to buy.-ww
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420168#420168
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