Pietenpol-List Digest Fri 03/14/14

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Fri 03/14/14

Total Messages Posted: 17



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:29 AM - Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 (AircamperN11MS)
     2. 05:49 AM - Re: SNF (nightmare)
     3. 10:26 AM - Re: Re: SNF (Steven Dortch)
     4. 10:33 AM - Re: Re: SNF (Dick N)
     5. 11:47 AM - Steel Nails and Bulkhead discoloration (N219BR)
     6. 12:08 PM - corvair engine serial numbers (Bill R)
     7. 12:27 PM - Re: corvair engine serial numbers (John Franklin)
     8. 12:53 PM - "Hooking them in" (cjborsuk)
     9. 12:58 PM - Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 (Catdesigns)
    10. 01:29 PM - Re: corvair engine serial numbers (taildrags)
    11. 03:08 PM - Re: "Hooking them in" (Gary Boothe)
    12. 03:24 PM - Re: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 (Gary Boothe)
    13. 04:26 PM - Re: "Hooking them in" (danhelsper@aol.com)
    14. 04:59 PM - Re: "Hooking them in" (Jack Phillips)
    15. 06:46 PM - Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 (AircamperN11MS)
    16. 08:33 PM - Re: Steel Nails and Bulkhead discoloration (AircamperN11MS)
    17. 09:09 PM - Re: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 (Ray Krause)
 
 
 

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Time: 05:29:51 AM PST US
Subject: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014
From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>      
      
      Chris,
      
      David has been fun to hang with.  He is very interested in the people, their stories/history
      and all airplanes, Antiques/Homebuilts and otherwise.  It will
      be great to have him at our airport.  
      
      I think I still owe you a ride.  I don't remember you going up with me last year.
      We'll get you up this time. 
      
      See you in June,
      
      --------
      Scott Liefeld
      Flying N11MS since March 1972
      Steel Tube
      C-85-12
      Wire Wheels
      Brodhead in 1996
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420333#420333
      
      

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Time: 05:49:01 AM PST US
Subject: Re: SNF
From: "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>      
      
      Very cool guys.
         Couple of questions :
      Are you building from plans or the kit?
      The website does not give price on just plans.
      Website says that the plans construction is different from the kit version. Does
      the plans version require all those slots and tabs?
      Always admired the old school floats from flying and glider. Was that design ever
      a consideration, or just to inefficient? 
         Thanks; Paul
      
      --------
      Paul Donahue
      Started 8-3-12
      do not archive
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420336#420336
      
      

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Time: 10:26:28 AM PST US
Subject: Re: SNF
From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>      
      Sure be careful, in the flying and glider magazine one guy rolled his plane
      over into the water twice because he placed the floats in the wrong place.
      
      Blue skies
      Steve D
      

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Time: 10:33:14 AM PST US
From: "Dick N" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
Subject: Re: SNF      
      
      We are building right from plans, I havent seen a kit yet. It is an old set 
      of plans I;m not sure if they sell them anymore.
      It does require lots of stringers.   Flying Glider manual has old designs, 
      these are pretty much current technology.
      Dick
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
      Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 7:48 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: SNF
      
      
      > <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
      >
      > Very cool guys.
      >   Couple of questions :
      > Are you building from plans or the kit?
      > The website does not give price on just plans.
      > Website says that the plans construction is different from the kit 
      > version. Does the plans version require all those slots and tabs?
      > Always admired the old school floats from flying and glider. Was that 
      > design ever a consideration, or just to inefficient?
      >   Thanks; Paul
      >
      > --------
      > Paul Donahue
      > Started 8-3-12
      > do not archive
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420336#420336
      >
      >
      > 
      
      

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Time: 11:47:26 AM PST US
Subject: Steel Nails and Bulkhead discoloration
From: "N219BR" <briankdurham@gmail.com>      
      
      Hi Piet builders,
      
      Got a generic wooden plane question for y'all. I have an airframe that steel nails
      were used to attach a bulkhead to the fuselage framing. The glue joints look
      good; but, I have discoloration everywhere he put the steel nails. (Note he
      did end up going to brass, but about half the structure he used steel). Is this
      something some of you have seen in the past? If so, what are your thoughts?
      Remove and replace, or seal and monitor?
      
      Thanks,
      
      Brian Durham
      
      --------
      Brian Durham
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420346#420346
      
      

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Time: 12:08:47 PM PST US
Subject: corvair engine serial numbers
From: "Bill R" <brcapper@gmail.com>      
      
      Guys 
      I found three motors for sale, the numbers on the block are as follows:
      To702ZH
      T0205YR
      T0 605RB
      Can anyone tell me if any of these motors will work for a WW conversion?
      Thanks
      Bill
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420347#420347
      
      

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Time: 12:27:48 PM PST US
From: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
Subject: Re: corvair engine serial numbers      
      
      Bill,
      
      Here's a good place to start:
      
      http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/CorvAIRCRAFT/EngineID.htm
      
      John F.
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: Bill R <brcapper@gmail.com>
      >Sent: Mar 14, 2014 2:07 PM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: corvair engine serial numbers
      >
      >
      >Guys 
      >I found three motors for sale, the numbers on the block are as follows:
      >To702ZH
      >T0205YR
      >T0 605RB
      >Can anyone tell me if any of these motors will work for a WW conversion?
      >Thanks
      >Bill
      >
      >
      >Read this topic online here:
      >
      >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420347#420347
      >
      >
      
      

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Time: 12:53:26 PM PST US
Subject: "Hooking them in"
From: "cjborsuk" <cjborsuk@yahoo.com>      
      
      Thanks Jack for the kind words and the ride. Not sure I can live up to them! Too
      much pressure!!
      
      Here are a few updated pictures.
      
      Chuck
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420350#420350
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_134439_800x598_655.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135140_800x598_114.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_134303_800x598_209.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135047_800x598_344.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135032_800x598_151.jpg
      
      

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Time: 12:58:34 PM PST US
Subject: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014
From: "Catdesigns" <Catdesigns@att.net>      
      
      Scott
      
      Closest I came to a ride in your plane was this, http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/WCP_2013_Gathering/IMG_0512.JPG
      
       I realized Sunday morning as you were getting ready to leave that I forgot to
      get a ride.  
      
      Sure sucked to be left standing on the ground as everyone flies away.  I guess
      I need to build faster.
      
      --------
      Chris
      Sacramento, CA
      WestCoastPiet.com
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420352#420352
      
      

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Time: 01:29:36 PM PST US
Subject: Re: corvair engine serial numbers
From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>      
      
      ZH = '64 95HP powerglide
      YR = '60-'63 turbo
      RB = '65-'68 manual, 140HP
      
      There are more suitable candidates than any of these.
      
      --------
      Oscar Zuniga
      Medford, OR
      Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot;
      A75 power
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420354#420354
      
      

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Time: 03:08:43 PM PST US
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Subject: "Hooking them in"      
      
      Nice! Love the wood struts!
      
      Gary Boothe
      NX308MB
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjborsuk
      Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 12:49 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: "Hooking them in"
      
      
      Thanks Jack for the kind words and the ride. Not sure I can live up to them!
      Too much pressure!!
      
      Here are a few updated pictures.
      
      Chuck
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420350#420350
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_134439_800x598_655.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135140_800x598_114.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_134303_800x598_209.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135047_800x598_344.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135032_800x598_151.jpg
      
      

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Time: 03:24:17 PM PST US
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014      
      
      Hopefully, that's a pic of two Piets climbing out...not maintaining alt!
      
      Gary Boothe
      NX308MB
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Catdesigns
      Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 12:57 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014
      
      
      Scott
      
      Closest I came to a ride in your plane was this,
      http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/WCP_2013_Gathering/IMG_0512.JPG
      
       I realized Sunday morning as you were getting ready to leave that I forgot
      to get a ride.  
      
      Sure sucked to be left standing on the ground as everyone flies away.  I
      guess I need to build faster.
      
      --------
      Chris
      Sacramento, CA
      WestCoastPiet.com
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420352#420352
      
      

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Time: 04:26:15 PM PST US
Subject: Re: "Hooking them in"
From: danhelsper@aol.com      
      
      Chuck,
      
      It's gonna be a sweet flyer. I can tell just by the looks of it!
      
      Dan Helsper
      Puryear, TN
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: cjborsuk <cjborsuk@yahoo.com>
      Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 2:54 pm
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: "Hooking them in"
      
      
      
      Thanks Jack for the kind words and the ride. Not sure I can live up to them
      ! Too 
      much pressure!!
      
      Here are a few updated pictures.
      
      Chuck
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420350#420350
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_134439_800x598_655.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135140_800x598_114.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_134303_800x598_209.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135047_800x598_344.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135032_800x598_151.jpg
      
      

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Time: 04:59:13 PM PST US
From: "Jack Phillips" <jack@bedfordlandings.com>
Subject: "Hooking them in"      
      
      Looks really nice, Chuck.  Looks like you're about at the 90% done, 90% to
      go stage.
      
      Jack Phillips
      NX899JP
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjborsuk
      Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 3:49 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: "Hooking them in"
      
      
      Thanks Jack for the kind words and the ride. Not sure I can live up to them!
      Too much pressure!!
      
      Here are a few updated pictures.
      
      Chuck
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420350#420350
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_134439_800x598_655.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135140_800x598_114.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_134303_800x598_209.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135047_800x598_344.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135032_800x598_151.jpg
      
      

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Time: 06:46:43 PM PST US
Subject: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014
From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>      
      
      Yes Gary during climb out. You trying to start something???? Smart guy :)
      
      --------
      Scott Liefeld
      Flying N11MS since March 1972
      Steel Tube
      C-85-12
      Wire Wheels
      Brodhead in 1996
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420361#420361
      
      

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Time: 08:33:45 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Steel Nails and Bulkhead discoloration
From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>      
      
      Brian,
      The nails don't provided any structural strength. Some guys remove all the nails
      for a small weight savings. Some just leave them in. Since you live in a damp
      area I would go ahead and remove all that you can then sand the ugly off and
      reseal. I would hate to have a nail head rust off then Polk through the fabric.
      I'm not sure there is really a right answer to your question. Just personal
      preference.
      
      My 3 cents. Good luck.
      
      --------
      Scott Liefeld
      Flying N11MS since March 1972
      Steel Tube
      C-85-12
      Wire Wheels
      Brodhead in 1996
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420363#420363
      
      

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Time: 09:09:45 PM PST US
From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014      
      
      Gary,
      
      Are you going to Woodland tomorrow?
      
      Ray
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      > On Mar 14, 2014, at 3:23 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
      > 
      > 
      > Hopefully, that's a pic of two Piets climbing out...not maintaining alt!
      > 
      > Gary Boothe
      > NX308MB
      > 
      > 
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Catdesigns
      > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 12:57 PM
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014
      > 
      > 
      > Scott
      > 
      > Closest I came to a ride in your plane was this,
      > http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/WCP_2013_Gathering/IMG_0512.JPG
      > 
      > I realized Sunday morning as you were getting ready to leave that I forgot
      > to get a ride.  
      > 
      > Sure sucked to be left standing on the ground as everyone flies away.  I
      > guess I need to build faster.
      > 
      > --------
      > Chris
      > Sacramento, CA
      > WestCoastPiet.com
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420352#420352
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
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