---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/14/14: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:29 AM - Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 (AircamperN11MS) 2. 05:49 AM - Re: SNF (nightmare) 3. 10:26 AM - Re: Re: SNF (Steven Dortch) 4. 10:33 AM - Re: Re: SNF (Dick N) 5. 11:47 AM - Steel Nails and Bulkhead discoloration (N219BR) 6. 12:08 PM - corvair engine serial numbers (Bill R) 7. 12:27 PM - Re: corvair engine serial numbers (John Franklin) 8. 12:53 PM - "Hooking them in" (cjborsuk) 9. 12:58 PM - Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 (Catdesigns) 10. 01:29 PM - Re: corvair engine serial numbers (taildrags) 11. 03:08 PM - Re: "Hooking them in" (Gary Boothe) 12. 03:24 PM - Re: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 (Gary Boothe) 13. 04:26 PM - Re: "Hooking them in" (danhelsper@aol.com) 14. 04:59 PM - Re: "Hooking them in" (Jack Phillips) 15. 06:46 PM - Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 (AircamperN11MS) 16. 08:33 PM - Re: Steel Nails and Bulkhead discoloration (AircamperN11MS) 17. 09:09 PM - Re: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 (Ray Krause) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:29:51 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 From: "AircamperN11MS" Chris, David has been fun to hang with. He is very interested in the people, their stories/history and all airplanes, Antiques/Homebuilts and otherwise. It will be great to have him at our airport. I think I still owe you a ride. I don't remember you going up with me last year. We'll get you up this time. See you in June, -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420333#420333 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:01 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: SNF From: "nightmare" Very cool guys. Couple of questions : Are you building from plans or the kit? The website does not give price on just plans. Website says that the plans construction is different from the kit version. Does the plans version require all those slots and tabs? Always admired the old school floats from flying and glider. Was that design ever a consideration, or just to inefficient? Thanks; Paul -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420336#420336 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:26:28 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: SNF From: Steven Dortch Sure be careful, in the flying and glider magazine one guy rolled his plane over into the water twice because he placed the floats in the wrong place. Blue skies Steve D ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:33:14 AM PST US From: "Dick N" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: SNF We are building right from plans, I havent seen a kit yet. It is an old set of plans I;m not sure if they sell them anymore. It does require lots of stringers. Flying Glider manual has old designs, these are pretty much current technology. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "nightmare" Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 7:48 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: SNF > > > Very cool guys. > Couple of questions : > Are you building from plans or the kit? > The website does not give price on just plans. > Website says that the plans construction is different from the kit > version. Does the plans version require all those slots and tabs? > Always admired the old school floats from flying and glider. Was that > design ever a consideration, or just to inefficient? > Thanks; Paul > > -------- > Paul Donahue > Started 8-3-12 > do not archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420336#420336 > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:47:26 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Steel Nails and Bulkhead discoloration From: "N219BR" Hi Piet builders, Got a generic wooden plane question for y'all. I have an airframe that steel nails were used to attach a bulkhead to the fuselage framing. The glue joints look good; but, I have discoloration everywhere he put the steel nails. (Note he did end up going to brass, but about half the structure he used steel). Is this something some of you have seen in the past? If so, what are your thoughts? Remove and replace, or seal and monitor? Thanks, Brian Durham -------- Brian Durham Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420346#420346 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:08:47 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: corvair engine serial numbers From: "Bill R" Guys I found three motors for sale, the numbers on the block are as follows: To702ZH T0205YR T0 605RB Can anyone tell me if any of these motors will work for a WW conversion? Thanks Bill Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420347#420347 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:27:48 PM PST US From: John Franklin Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: corvair engine serial numbers Bill, Here's a good place to start: http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/CorvAIRCRAFT/EngineID.htm John F. -----Original Message----- >From: Bill R >Sent: Mar 14, 2014 2:07 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: corvair engine serial numbers > > >Guys >I found three motors for sale, the numbers on the block are as follows: >To702ZH >T0205YR >T0 605RB >Can anyone tell me if any of these motors will work for a WW conversion? >Thanks >Bill > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420347#420347 > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:53:26 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: "Hooking them in" From: "cjborsuk" Thanks Jack for the kind words and the ride. Not sure I can live up to them! Too much pressure!! Here are a few updated pictures. Chuck Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420350#420350 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_134439_800x598_655.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135140_800x598_114.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_134303_800x598_209.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135047_800x598_344.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135032_800x598_151.jpg ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:58:34 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 From: "Catdesigns" Scott Closest I came to a ride in your plane was this, http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/WCP_2013_Gathering/IMG_0512.JPG I realized Sunday morning as you were getting ready to leave that I forgot to get a ride. Sure sucked to be left standing on the ground as everyone flies away. I guess I need to build faster. -------- Chris Sacramento, CA WestCoastPiet.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420352#420352 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:29:36 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: corvair engine serial numbers From: "taildrags" ZH = '64 95HP powerglide YR = '60-'63 turbo RB = '65-'68 manual, 140HP There are more suitable candidates than any of these. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420354#420354 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:08:43 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: "Hooking them in" Nice! Love the wood struts! Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjborsuk Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 12:49 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: "Hooking them in" Thanks Jack for the kind words and the ride. Not sure I can live up to them! Too much pressure!! Here are a few updated pictures. Chuck Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420350#420350 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_134439_800x598_655.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135140_800x598_114.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_134303_800x598_209.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135047_800x598_344.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135032_800x598_151.jpg ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:24:17 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 Hopefully, that's a pic of two Piets climbing out...not maintaining alt! Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Catdesigns Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 12:57 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 Scott Closest I came to a ride in your plane was this, http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/WCP_2013_Gathering/IMG_0512.JPG I realized Sunday morning as you were getting ready to leave that I forgot to get a ride. Sure sucked to be left standing on the ground as everyone flies away. I guess I need to build faster. -------- Chris Sacramento, CA WestCoastPiet.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420352#420352 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:26:15 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: "Hooking them in" From: danhelsper@aol.com Chuck, It's gonna be a sweet flyer. I can tell just by the looks of it! Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: cjborsuk Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 2:54 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: "Hooking them in" Thanks Jack for the kind words and the ride. Not sure I can live up to them ! Too much pressure!! Here are a few updated pictures. Chuck Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420350#420350 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_134439_800x598_655.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135140_800x598_114.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_134303_800x598_209.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135047_800x598_344.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135032_800x598_151.jpg ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:59:13 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: "Hooking them in" Looks really nice, Chuck. Looks like you're about at the 90% done, 90% to go stage. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjborsuk Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 3:49 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: "Hooking them in" Thanks Jack for the kind words and the ride. Not sure I can live up to them! Too much pressure!! Here are a few updated pictures. Chuck Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420350#420350 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_134439_800x598_655.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135140_800x598_114.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_134303_800x598_209.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135047_800x598_344.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_03_14_135032_800x598_151.jpg ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:46:43 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 From: "AircamperN11MS" Yes Gary during climb out. You trying to start something???? Smart guy :) -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420361#420361 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:33:45 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Nails and Bulkhead discoloration From: "AircamperN11MS" Brian, The nails don't provided any structural strength. Some guys remove all the nails for a small weight savings. Some just leave them in. Since you live in a damp area I would go ahead and remove all that you can then sand the ugly off and reseal. I would hate to have a nail head rust off then Polk through the fabric. I'm not sure there is really a right answer to your question. Just personal preference. My 3 cents. Good luck. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420363#420363 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:09:45 PM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 Gary, Are you going to Woodland tomorrow? Ray Sent from my iPad > On Mar 14, 2014, at 3:23 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > > > Hopefully, that's a pic of two Piets climbing out...not maintaining alt! > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Catdesigns > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 12:57 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 > > > Scott > > Closest I came to a ride in your plane was this, > http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/WCP_2013_Gathering/IMG_0512.JPG > > I realized Sunday morning as you were getting ready to leave that I forgot > to get a ride. > > Sure sucked to be left standing on the ground as everyone flies away. I > guess I need to build faster. > > -------- > Chris > Sacramento, CA > WestCoastPiet.com > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420352#420352 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.