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Sat 03/15/14


Total Messages Posted: 14



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:47 AM - Re: Steel Nails and Bulkhead discoloration (Don Emch)
     2. 03:56 AM - Re: 85 years (Don Emch)
     3. 04:51 AM - Re: Steel Nails and Bulkhead discoloration (womenfly2)
     4. 04:55 AM - Re: SNF (womenfly2)
     5. 05:33 AM - Re: Re: 85 years (Charles N. Campbell)
     6. 06:51 AM - chuck's (Douwe Blumberg)
     7. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 (Gary Boothe)
     8. 07:17 AM - 4130 tubing laying around (Douwe Blumberg)
     9. 07:34 AM - Re: Steel Nails and Bulkhead discoloration (N219BR)
    10. 07:44 AM - Re: "Hooking them in" (aerocarjake)
    11. 08:47 AM - Re: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 (Ray Krause)
    12. 07:11 PM - Plywood (Steven Dortch)
    13. 08:02 PM - a day at the hangar (Oscar Zuniga)
    14. 08:25 PM - Re: a day at the hangar (AircamperN11MS)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:47:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Steel Nails and Bulkhead discoloration
    From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
    If you are confident the wood is sound I wouldn't worry too much about it. If you don't like the stain and want to get rid of it you can get a two part wood bleach by Kleen Strip that will remove the rust stains and make the wood look new again. I've used it on spruce and it works wonders. Just be sure to use rubber gloves as it your skin too! :-/ Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420365#420365


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    Time: 03:56:01 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 85 years
    From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
    Oscar, I can't believe that picture was taken eight years ago! I've since added a fourth kid to the fleet. My daughter in the front seat is now nearly 5' 10" tall. The others are on their way to that too. I've been very blessed to be able to do this hobby while raising my family. They've been involved all along the way. Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420366#420366


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    Time: 04:51:56 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Steel Nails and Bulkhead discoloration
    From: "womenfly2" <Love2Fly.KAP@gmail.com>
    If the structure is sound, just leave it alone. The nails and stain will not hurt anything. Adding compounds to remove stain can damage the wood fibers. I think the staining with some varnish applied over them will give it an antique look. You can always paint. Move forward, not backwards ;) WF2 -------- Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420367#420367


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    Time: 04:55:56 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: SNF
    From: "womenfly2" <Love2Fly.KAP@gmail.com>
    Try Zenair Floats @ WF2 -------- Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420368#420368


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    Time: 05:33:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 85 years
    From: "Charles N. Campbell" <charlescampbell1924@gmail.com>
    William, your dog looks suspiciously like my dog, Pippa. She is half Bijon and half Maltese. They call it a new breed called Maltachon. Incidentally, I have a Corvair type question for you. If OK I will ask it here. I put a 5th bearing on my engine but had already mounted the rear section. I then put on a high volume oil pump. In one of your posts you mentioned that with the larger pump you need to drill a larger hole somewhere in the rear section which I can't do without disassembling the engine. Should I use the high volume pump without the larger hole or revert to the standard pump? Chuck On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:31 PM, William Wynne <WilliamTCA@aol.com> wrote: > > Jeff, > > Yes, the dog is a Java Junkie, but it isn't on his approved list so he > steals it from unattended mugs. You can see his first plane flight at this > link: > > http://www.flycorvair.com/hangar0109.html > > Don, > > My experience is that the EAA will support most ideas that don't absorb > manpower, which they are short of during Oshkosh. A big part of getting > their support is explaining that this isn't something for the 10 guys > flying in in their planes, but it is a gathering point to have many people > from the Pietenpol community make Oshkosh a specific destination this year. > > Food for thought: Rather than bringing the EAA's Piet artifacts to the > flight line, How about a visit to the Pietenpol hangar? We could pick one > evening and have a group photo there, and perhaps we could get inside the > rope access. I personally would love to spend a few hours sitting in that > hangar, looking at marks on the workbench and walls. I would like to get a > lot of detail photos of BHP's plane there, and the hangar. > > Someone should start a dialog with the EAA about how the Pietenpol > community can maintain and improve that hangar, the display, and its > contents. Spring and fall weekend work parties? You have a lot better > chance of getting permission to land at pioneer airport then. You can ask > Doc Mosher for more details, he is well versed in operations at Pioneer > airport. > > In speaking with Doc the other day, we both spent a lot of time on the > idea that now 85 years later, near 100% of the people involved with the > plane and the legacy of the man arrived in the second half of the 85 years. > This means that someone, or in most cases, a chain of someones, people we > are too late to thank personally, preserved "Pietenpols" for each of us to > 'discover.' Getting your plane done and flying it is the best way to > preserve the chain, add another strong link. But there are also many other > ways, and not every one of them has to be the titanic effort that Doc and > Dee put into the news letter and developing 'the Packet.' There are lots of > smaller, good things that people do all the time. If we can weave some of > these together at the Hangar at Pioneer airport, good. The structure sits > on EAA property, but it doesn't belong to them. It is actually owned by > every person who ever unrolled a set of Pietenpol plans at his kitchen > table and quietly said to himself "! > I must build this.....' -ww. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420284#420284 > >


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    Time: 06:51:35 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: chuck's
    Beautiful work Chuck!! Douwe


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    Time: 07:02:24 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014
    Sorry, Ray. Cold and flu...I'm grounded. Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 9:09 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 --> <raykrause@frontiernet.net> Gary, Are you going to Woodland tomorrow? Ray Sent from my iPad > On Mar 14, 2014, at 3:23 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > > --> <gboothe5@comcast.net> > > Hopefully, that's a pic of two Piets climbing out...not maintaining alt! > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Catdesigns > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 12:57 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 > > --> <Catdesigns@att.net> > > Scott > > Closest I came to a ride in your plane was this, > http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/WCP_2013_Gathering/IMG_0512.JPG > > I realized Sunday morning as you were getting ready to leave that I > forgot to get a ride. > > Sure sucked to be left standing on the ground as everyone flies away. > I guess I need to build faster. > > -------- > Chris > Sacramento, CA > WestCoastPiet.com > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420352#420352 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:17:12 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: 4130 tubing laying around
    Hey, Anybody have some 4130 tubing laying around they wanna sell cheap? Round, square, rusty. doesn't much matter. It's for a high-mileage vehicle "fun project" and is just for prototyping. Douwe


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    Time: 07:34:22 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Steel Nails and Bulkhead discoloration
    From: "N219BR" <briankdurham@gmail.com>
    Thanks all. I was of the same mind--I didn't think it was a big deal; but, as always its good to voice your questions with experience base. Thanks, Brian Durham -------- Brian Durham Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420376#420376


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    Time: 07:44:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: "Hooking them in"
    From: "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com>
    Awesome Chuck, just awesome....! -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420377#420377


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    Time: 08:47:28 AM PST US
    From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014
    Sorry, too! Just get over it! You're too old for that stuff! Ray Krause Sent from my iPad > On Mar 15, 2014, at 7:02 AM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > > > Sorry, Ray. Cold and flu...I'm grounded. > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 9:09 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 > > --> <raykrause@frontiernet.net> > > Gary, > > Are you going to Woodland tomorrow? > > Ray > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Mar 14, 2014, at 3:23 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> --> <gboothe5@comcast.net> >> >> Hopefully, that's a pic of two Piets climbing out...not maintaining alt! >> >> Gary Boothe >> NX308MB >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >> Catdesigns >> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 12:57 PM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 >> >> --> <Catdesigns@att.net> >> >> Scott >> >> Closest I came to a ride in your plane was this, >> http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/WCP_2013_Gathering/IMG_0512.JPG >> >> I realized Sunday morning as you were getting ready to leave that I >> forgot to get a ride. >> >> Sure sucked to be left standing on the ground as everyone flies away. >> I guess I need to build faster. >> >> -------- >> Chris >> Sacramento, CA >> WestCoastPiet.com >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420352#420352 > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:11:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Plywood
    From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
    HOLY COW! I just returned from Lowe's. I bought one thin piece of crappy B/C plywood to make shelved in my lockers. A thin, Just under 1/4 piece was $15. The only thing cheaper was chipboard. 1/2 inch was $25 and up! I am becoming a crabby old man, complaining about the cost of things! -- Blue Skies, Steve D


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    Time: 08:02:07 PM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: a day at the hangar
    So there were no more excuses left today. I finished installing the center section flop with the new hinge=2C then installed the new pilot's windscree n=2C serviced the air filter- and there was nothing left to do. Dragged Sc out from my hangar to the self-service pumps (which seemed like it must hav e been 20 miles=2C uphill)=2C put 10 gallons in the tank=2C and towed the a irplane back to the hangar. The tailwheel dolly makes it about as easy as it can be=2C but it was a good workout anyway. Tailwheel tied down=2C stick tied back=2C sumped the gascolator- and there were just no more delay tactics left to try. Mags off=2C pulled it through 8 blades with the throttle cracked=2C then made the mags hot and took off my outer shirt since I expected to get a good workout. The engine surprise d me by lighting off on the third pull! Oil pressure came right up and eve rything looked good=2C so I put on my jacket and settled into the cockpit t o give the oil a good warmup so I could change it after a year and a half o f sitting. The ground shook as the thunder of the mighty A75 let the whole world hear its mighty roaring echoes down the row of hangars. Got the engine good and warm (oil temp about 170-175F)=2C which took about 15 minutes at throttle settings from 1500 on up to full static RPM=2C and during that time I check ed mag drops=2C carb heat=2C and just listened to the engine and felt it ru n. It's wanting me to keep carb heat on all the time and it actually gives an RPM increase=2C not decrease=2C and smoother running with it on. Mag d rop was rough at lower RPM but cleared up as I kept inching the power up an d up and letting the engine warm up. By the time I was ready to shut down =2C it still didn't like higher power settings without carb heat but it wou ld run at 1500 as smooth as silk with the tach needle frozen in place and n o carb heat. It also idled just fine=2C on down to about 800 RPM=2C no car b heat. I'll have to figure that out. Drained and changed the oil=2C noticed that my front main oil seal is still seeping enough to make me want to go ahead and change the seal=2C and then I put the airplane away. Next time out of the hangar=2C which could be to morrow=2C we're going flying. Oscar Zuniga Medford=2C OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power


    Message 14


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    Time: 08:25:43 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: a day at the hangar
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    Woo Hoo! Scout breaths again. Sounds like very little CPR and transfusion will bring most all small Cont engines back to life. Enjoy your flight tomorrow. Pics (proof) please. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420399#420399




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