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1. 12:41 AM - Re: Plywood (mdsalern@yahoo.com)
2. 04:15 AM - Re: Plywood (jim hyde)
3. 07:40 AM - Re: a day at the hangar (Gary Boothe)
4. 07:54 AM - Re: a day at the hangar (nightmare)
5. 07:58 AM - Rats! (john francis)
6. 08:28 AM - Re: Rats! (Gary Boothe)
7. 08:32 AM - Re: Rats! (Chris)
8. 10:01 AM - Re: 4130 tubing laying around (Gardiner Mason)
9. 10:13 AM - leaking Continental front main seal (Oscar Zuniga)
10. 10:22 AM - running lean (Oscar Zuniga)
11. 10:23 AM - Re: Rats! (Chris)
12. 10:49 AM - Re: Re: a day at the hangar (shad bell)
13. 10:51 AM - Re: Rats! (john francis)
14. 11:19 AM - Re: Plywood (Steven Dortch)
15. 11:37 AM - Re: Rats! (Gary Boothe)
16. 11:37 AM - Re: a day at the hangar (taildrags)
17. 12:12 PM - Re: leaking Continental front main seal (Gerry Holland)
18. 12:31 PM - Re: running lean (Jack Phillips)
19. 12:35 PM - Re: Rats! (john francis)
20. 12:36 PM - Re: Plywood (jim hyde)
21. 01:09 PM - Re: a day at the hangar (AircamperN11MS)
22. 03:17 PM - Re: Re: a day at the hangar (Gary Boothe)
23. 03:45 PM - Re: a day at the hangar (AircamperN11MS)
24. 03:54 PM - Re: Rats! (Charles N. Campbell)
25. 03:59 PM - Re: Plywood (Charles N. Campbell)
26. 04:57 PM - Re: running lean (Wizzard187)
27. 05:19 PM - Re: Rats! (William Wynne)
28. 06:25 PM - Welcome to Corvair Colleges (William Wynne)
29. 06:43 PM - Re: Rats! (john francis)
30. 08:01 PM - Re: Re: Rats! (jim hyde)
31. 08:11 PM - Re: Welcome to Corvair Colleges (Gary Boothe)
32. 08:29 PM - Re: running lean (taildrags)
33. 08:35 PM - Re: leaking Continental front main seal (taildrags)
34. 09:02 PM - Re: running lean (William Wynne)
35. 09:39 PM - Re: running lean (taildrags)
36. 10:29 PM - Re: Speaking of Doc... (William Wynne)
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You're not becoming a crabby old man. I'm 32 and feel the same way.=0A=0AWh
en I started driving, minimum wage was $4.25 and gas was $.56 a gallon. Tod
ay, minimum wage is $7.25 and gas is $3.33. The ratio of wages to cost has
decreased dramatically. This is true for so many things, not just gas.=0A
=0AI feel that we have seen the last of inexpensive living costs for quite
some time. Personally, I'm not sure what to do about it. =0A=0AMichael=0A
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thats what happens when people wont shop with their locally owned merchants
. it doesn't take very long until there is no competition. I was in lowes a
nd had to pay 1.79 for two brass screws in a package.i wanted 25 nothing in
bulk for sale.I shop with the little local guy.. I learned the hard way..t
oday people only look at the bottom line and- don't see the long term res
ults of driving past their little local merchant to save a nickel on a roll
of tolet paper. the little guy goes broke and the big guy-ups the price
and we can take it or leave it.. americans just cant learn.. when I was a k
id it was considered un-American to buy anything but US made. now try to fi
nd US made. my dad fought the chineese in two wars and now the cloths on hi
s great grand kids back are all made out of this country.. don't complain a
bout the big box stores. we did it to ourselves. you, me all of us screwed
ourselves to save a nickel..so when im standing in self check doing my
own checking out with bag of two screws in a hurry to save five minites of
time-im also screwing my neighbor out of a little job that he may need.
don't look like im trainable. =0A=0A=0A=0AOn Sunday, March 16, 2014 2:41 AM
, "mdsalern@yahoo.com" <mdsalern@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A =0AYou're not becomi
ng a crabby old man. I'm 32 and feel the same way. =0AWhen I started drivin
g, minimum wage was $4.25 and gas was $.56 a gallon. Today, minimum wage is
$7.25 and gas is $3.33. The ratio of wages to cost has decreased dramatica
lly. This is true for so many things, not just gas. =0AI feel that we have
seen the last of inexpensive living costs for quite some time. Personally,
I'm not sure what to do about it. =0AMichael=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A____________
____________________=0A From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>;
=0ATo: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>; <beech-owners@beechcraft.org>; =0A
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Plywood =0ASent: Sun, Mar 16, 2014 2:10:20 AM
=0A =0A=0AHOLY COW! I just returned from Lowe's. I bought one thin piece of
crappy B/C plywood to make shelved in my lockers. =0A=0AA thin, Just under
1/4 piece was $15. The only thing cheaper was chipboard. =0A=0A1/2 inch wa
s $25 and up!=0A=0AI am becoming a crabby old man, complaining about the co
st of things!=0A=0A-=0A-- =0A=0ABlue Skies,=0ASteve D=0A =0Ahttp://www.m
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Subject: | a day at the hangar |
Oscar,
I had a similar issue with carb heat. Make sure it is fully closing. Enjoy
your flight!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:00 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: a day at the hangar
So there were no more excuses left today. I finished installing the
centersection flop with the new hinge, then installed the new pilot's
windscreen, serviced the air filter- and there was nothing left to do.
Dragged Scout from my hangar to the self-service pumps (which seemed like it
must have been 20 miles, uphill), put 10 gallons in the tank, and towed the
airplane back to the hangar. The tailwheel dolly makes it about as easy as
it can be, but it was a good workout anyway.
Tailwheel tied down, stick tied back, sumped the gascolator- and there were
just no more delay tactics left to try. Mags off, pulled it through 8
blades with the throttle cracked, then made the mags hot and took off my
outer shirt since I expected to get a good workout. The engine surprised me
by lighting off on the third pull! Oil pressure came right up and
everything looked good, so I put on my jacket and settled into the cockpit
to give the oil a good warmup so I could change it after a year and a half
of sitting.
The ground shook as the thunder of the mighty A75 let the whole world hear
its mighty roaring echoes down the row of hangars. Got the engine good and
warm (oil temp about 170-175F), which took about 15 minutes at throttle
settings from 1500 on up to full static RPM, and during that time I checked
mag drops, carb heat, and just listened to the engine and felt it run. It's
wanting me to keep carb heat on all the time and it actually gives an RPM
increase, not decrease, and smoother running with it on. Mag drop was rough
at lower RPM but cleared up as I kept inching the power up and up and
letting the engine warm up. By the time I was ready to shut down, it still
didn't like higher power settings without carb heat but it would run at 1500
as smooth as silk with the tach needle frozen in place and no carb heat. It
also idled just fine, on down to about 800 RPM, no carb heat. I'll have to
figure that out.
Drained and changed the oil, noticed that my front main oil seal is still
seeping enough to make me want to go ahead and change the seal, and then I
put the airplane away. Next time out of the hangar, which could be
tomorrow, we're going flying.
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: | Re: a day at the hangar |
Congrats Oscar. Must feel good. Also; almost sounds like your carb may be running
a little lean since adding carb heat (enriching) makes it run smoother. Just
a guess.
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Did I read the plans wrong? Note in the red oval on the print, "all measurements
to outside of plywood. I assumed this meant all measurements and made the
front of my fuselage 24 wide to the outside of the plywood.
Yesterday I borrowed a WW corvair engine mount and found it to be a 1/4 too wide
for my frame (the engine mount measured 24 1/4 wide). That would mean that
the front, or far left dimension on the print should be 24 inches to the outside
of the longerons and not the plywood.....correct? Before I remove the two
bottom ash cross struts connecting my sides, I want to make sure.
John
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John,
The outside of the plywood is the same as the outside of the longerons. Mr. Pietenpol
did that on purpose to conserve plywood, but when you add the sides, the
outside measurement increases 1/4".
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of john francis
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:58 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rats!
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Did I read the plans wrong? Note in the red oval on the print, "all measurements
to outside of plywood. I assumed this meant all measurements and made the
front of my fuselage 24 wide to the outside of the plywood.
Yesterday I borrowed a WW corvair engine mount and found it to be a 1/4 too wide
for my frame (the engine mount measured 24 1/4 wide). That would mean that
the front, or far left dimension on the print should be 24 inches to the outside
of the longerons and not the plywood.....correct? Before I remove the two
bottom ash cross struts connecting my sides, I want to make sure.
John
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John
I dont think your wrong. I think the 24" to the outside of the plywood was on
purpose so you could use half a sheet of plywood on the bottom.
Chris T.
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of john francis
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:58 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rats!
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Did I read the plans wrong? Note in the red oval on the print, "all measurements
to outside of plywood. I assumed this meant all measurements and made the
front of my fuselage 24 wide to the outside of the plywood.
Yesterday I borrowed a WW corvair engine mount and found it to be a 1/4 too wide
for my frame (the engine mount measured 24 1/4 wide). That would mean that
the front, or far left dimension on the print should be 24 inches to the outside
of the longerons and not the plywood.....correct? Before I remove the two
bottom ash cross struts connecting my sides, I want to make sure.
John
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Subject: | Re: 4130 tubing laying around |
Hey Douwe, I may have some left over after I get my motor mount finished. W
hat kind of fun project are you making? Is it going to be horse drawn? Gardi
ner
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 15, 2014, at 10:18 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Anybody have some 4130 tubing laying around they wanna sell cheap? Round,
square, rusty doesn=99t much matter. It=99s for a hig
h-mileage vehicle =9Cfun project=9D and is just for prototyping.
>
> Douwe
>
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Subject: | leaking Continental front main seal |
=0A
=0A
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Graham and others- I know exactly what the issue is with my front main sea
l. When the engine was converted from an A65 and everything was gone throu
gh=2C the crank was overhauled as well. What was missed was the step that
Continental requires here: http://www.aeronca.org/ContinentalSB-M76-4.pdf .
Plating is removed from an area about 1" wide on the front of the crank w
here the seal rides=2C and once it's perfectly smooth a 30 degree pattern i
s cut into the surface with 180 grit emery cloth to act as a sort of 'screw
' to continuously feed any seepage back into the crankcase. I have a repla
cement seal (two of them=2C actually=2C since I may mess up on the first at
tempt). It is close work and requires patience. Oh yeah=2C and I've never
done it before =3Bo)
Oscar Zuniga
Medford=2C OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
=0A
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Thanks to those who commented on why my engine may want continuous carb hea
t. Indeed I thought about restriction through the air filter=2C and I may
try pulling it off for a trial run. It's a conventional flat Air-Maze such
as is used on billions of other engines like this. I clean it periodicall
y and then spray on some K&N filter oil=2C and maybe that's the problem.
I also thought about why it may be running lean and one of the obvious poss
ibilities is an air leak either at the carb base gasket or on one of the ma
ny intake spider clamps and fittings. I may need to check all of those out
=2C too.
Without carb heat on takeoff=2C the engine will stumble when power is appli
ed=2C and if carb heat is not pulled immediately=2C the engine will die. T
his is not good.
Oscar Zuniga
Medford=2C OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Gary,
I never noticed your fuselage was 24 1/4 inches wide. I guess my eyes are getting
bad. I took this measurement, like john did, to mean 24-inches AFTER the sides
are installed. I never thought it was before but it could be interpreted
your way too. This is just one of the joys of scratch building. We can both
say we followed the plans and both of us are correct.
Chris T.
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
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Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:28 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Rats!
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John,
The outside of the plywood is the same as the outside of the longerons. Mr. Pietenpol
did that on purpose to conserve plywood, but when you add the sides, the
outside measurement increases 1/4".
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:58 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rats!
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Did I read the plans wrong? Note in the red oval on the print, "all measurements
to outside of plywood. I assumed this meant all measurements and made the
front of my fuselage 24 wide to the outside of the plywood.
Yesterday I borrowed a WW corvair engine mount and found it to be a 1/4 too wide
for my frame (the engine mount measured 24 1/4 wide). That would mean that
the front, or far left dimension on the print should be 24 inches to the outside
of the longerons and not the plywood.....correct? Before I remove the two
bottom ash cross struts connecting my sides, I want to make sure.
John
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Subject: | Re: a day at the hangar |
It could be a induction leak, Also the mixture could be a little lean if it was
last adjusted in warm weather and it is considerably colder now.
Just a thought,
Shad
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: a day at the hangar
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Date: Sunday, March 16, 2014, 10:53 AM
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by: "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
Congrats Oscar. Must feel good. Also; almost sounds like
your carb may be running a little lean since adding carb
heat (enriching) makes it run smoother. Just a guess.
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So at this point I guess I will proceed making the wide body version since I do
want this engine mount to work.
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Jim, I agree. In Enid, OK there was a great little true value hardware
store. Biggars. It had small boxes of screws and such and you could buy 5
#4 screws as well. they always had that little obscure part you needed or
would get it. They were put out of business by Walmart and Lowes. (Notice
almost every time you see a Lowes it is near Walmart.) Of course Lowes,
only sells little nuts and bolts in packages of 5. They also don't carry
anything that does not have volume sales so you can't find the part you
really need.
Yesterday I bought 4 #4 plastic washers for 56 cents. They are worth about
5 for a penny.
I miss the old fashioned hardware store.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 6:14 AM, jim hyde <jnl96@yahoo.com> wrote:
> thats what happens when people wont shop with their locally owned
> merchants. it doesn't take very long until there is no competition. I was
> in lowes and had to pay 1.79 for two brass screws in a package.i wanted 2
5
> nothing in bulk for sale.I shop with the little local guy.. I learned the
> hard way..today people only look at the bottom line and don't see the lo
ng
> term results of driving past their little local merchant to save a nickel
> on a roll of tolet paper. the little guy goes broke and the big guy ups t
he
> price and we can take it or leave it.. americans just cant learn.. when I
> was a kid it was considered un-American to buy anything but US made. now
> try to find US made. my dad fought the chineese in two wars and now the
> cloths on his great grand kids back are all made out of this country..
> don't complain about the big box stores. we did it to ourselves. you, me
> all of us screwed ourselves to save a nickel..so when im standing in self
> check doing my own checking out with bag of two screws in a hurry to save
> five minites of time im also screwing my neighbor out of a little job tha
t
> he may need. don't look like im trainable.
>
>
> On Sunday, March 16, 2014 2:41 AM, "mdsalern@yahoo.com" <
> mdsalern@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You're not becoming a crabby old man. I'm 32 and feel the same way.
> When I started driving, minimum wage was $4.25 and gas was $.56 a gallon.
> Today, minimum wage is $7.25 and gas is $3.33. The ratio of wages to cost
> has decreased dramatically. This is true for so many things, not just gas
.
> I feel that we have seen the last of inexpensive living costs for quite
> some time. Personally, I'm not sure what to do about it.
> Michael
>
> * From: * Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>;
> * To: * <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>; <beech-owners@beechcraft.org>;
> * Subject: * Pietenpol-List: Plywood
> * Sent: * Sun, Mar 16, 2014 2:10:20 AM
>
> HOLY COW! I just returned from Lowe's. I bought one thin piece of
> crappy B/C plywood to make shelved in my lockers.
>
> A thin, Just under 1/4 piece was $15. The only thing cheaper was
> chipboard.
>
> 1/2 inch was $25 and up!
>
> I am becoming a crabby old man, complaining about the cost of things!
>
> --
> Blue Skies,
> Steve D
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...but what does Dan Interim Top Curmudgeon Helsper say?
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Rats!
Gary,
I never noticed your fuselage was 24 1/4 inches wide. I guess my eyes are getting
bad. I took this measurement, like john did, to mean 24-inches AFTER the sides
are installed. I never thought it was before but it could be interpreted
your way too. This is just one of the joys of scratch building. We can both
say we followed the plans and both of us are correct.
Chris T.
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
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Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:28 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Rats!
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John,
The outside of the plywood is the same as the outside of the longerons. Mr. Pietenpol
did that on purpose to conserve plywood, but when you add the sides, the
outside measurement increases 1/4".
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of john francis
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:58 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rats!
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Did I read the plans wrong? Note in the red oval on the print, "all measurements
to outside of plywood. I assumed this meant all measurements and made the
front of my fuselage 24 wide to the outside of the plywood.
Yesterday I borrowed a WW corvair engine mount and found it to be a 1/4 too wide
for my frame (the engine mount measured 24 1/4 wide). That would mean that
the front, or far left dimension on the print should be 24 inches to the outside
of the longerons and not the plywood.....correct? Before I remove the two
bottom ash cross struts connecting my sides, I want to make sure.
John
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Subject: | Re: a day at the hangar |
Pics? You want proof? Well, All I have is proof that the engine started and ran
yesterday (attached). Taken with the iPhone, so the prop is all melted and
flinging pieces of itself into the sky, but there's the place I call "home"-
Hangar Tango Six, north hangars, KMFR. Tail is tied to the galvanized steel stormwater
grating that was cast integral with the concrete gutter. Ain't goin'
nowhere.
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Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: | Re: leaking Continental front main seal |
Oscar Hi.
Commiserations on needing to do Prop seal.
I have had to do it and in truth two things to say.
Buying two Seals - great! As you can guess you'll only need one and all will go
well.
I think I took Prop off just to give a bit more space. I also worked from above
the flange on a step of some sorts.
The spring inside the seal I adjusted the 'hook' ends, compressed them so it readily
coupled and stayed together when pushed into seal.
The last action involved carefully prising seal over crank into recess ensuring
it was lubricated.
In truth it was a lot less traumatic than I envisaged. It will be fine.
Regards
Gerry
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As Shad says, my bet would be an induction leak. I had such a leak when I
built my A65, and it caused rough running and backfiring at idle. Check all
those hose clamps and make sure all the rubber boots are on cleanly.
As for the crankshaft seal, this is an easy task if you have a tapered shaft
engine. More difficult with a flanged shaft.
Good Luck!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 1:22 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: running lean
Thanks to those who commented on why my engine may want continuous carb
heat. Indeed I thought about restriction through the air filter, and I may
try pulling it off for a trial run. It's a conventional flat Air-Maze such
as is used on billions of other engines like this. I clean it periodically
and then spray on some K&N filter oil, and maybe that's the problem.
I also thought about why it may be running lean and one of the obvious
possibilities is an air leak either at the carb base gasket or on one of the
many intake spider clamps and fittings. I may need to check all of those
out, too.
Without carb heat on takeoff, the engine will stumble when power is applied,
and if carb heat is not pulled immediately, the engine will die. This is
not good.
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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The destruction is done and the reconstruction has begun.
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im as guilty as the next guy=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Sunday, March 16, 2014 1:19 PM,
Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com> wrote:=0A =0AJim, I agree. In En
id, OK there was a great little true value- hardware store. Biggars. It h
ad small boxes of screws and such and you could buy 5 #4 screws as well. th
ey always had that little obscure part you needed or would get it. They wer
e put out of business by- Walmart and Lowes. (Notice almost every time yo
u see a Lowes it is near Walmart.) Of course Lowes, only sells little nuts
and bolts in packages of 5. They also don't carry anything that does not ha
ve volume sales so you can't find the part you really need. =0A=0AYesterday
I bought 4 #4 plastic washers for 56 cents. They are worth about 5 for a p
enny. =0A=0AI miss the old fashioned hardware store. =0A=0ABlue Skies,=0ASt
eve D=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 6:14 AM, jim hyde <jnl96@yahoo.
com> wrote:=0A=0Athats what happens when people wont shop with their locall
y owned merchants. it doesn't take very long until there is no competition.
I was in lowes and had to pay 1.79 for two brass screws in a package.i wan
ted 25 nothing in bulk for sale.I shop with the little local guy.. I learne
d the hard way..today people only look at the bottom line and- don't see
the long term results of driving past their little local merchant to save a
nickel on a roll of tolet paper. the little guy goes broke and the big guy
-ups the price and we can take it or leave it.. americans just cant learn
.. when I was a kid it was considered un-American to buy anything but US ma
de. now try to find US made. my dad fought the chineese in two wars and now
the cloths on his great grand kids back are all made out of this country..
don't complain about the big box stores. we did it to ourselves. you, me a
ll of us screwed ourselves to save a nickel..so when im standing in self ch
eck doing my
own checking out with bag of two screws in a hurry to save five minites of
time-im also screwing my neighbor out of a little job that he may need.
don't look like im trainable. =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>On Sunday, March 16, 2014 2:
41 AM, "mdsalern@yahoo.com" <mdsalern@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A> =0A>You're not
becoming a crabby old man. I'm 32 and feel the same way. =0A>When I starte
d driving, minimum wage was $4.25 and gas was $.56 a gallon. Today, minimum
wage is $7.25 and gas is $3.33. The ratio of wages to cost has decreased d
ramatically. This is true for so many things, not just gas. =0A>I feel that
we have seen the last of inexpensive living costs for quite some time. Per
sonally, I'm not sure what to do about it. =0A>Michael=0A> =0A>=0A>=0A>
From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>; =0A>To: <pietenpol-list@
matronics.com>; <beech-owners@beechcraft.org>; =0A>Subject: Pietenpol-Lis
t: Plywood =0A>Sent: Sun, Mar 16, 2014 2:10:20 AM =0A> =0A>=0A>HOLY COW! I
just returned from Lowe's. I bought one thin piece of crappy B/C plywood t
o make shelved in my lockers. =0A>=0A>A thin, Just under 1/4 piece was $15.
The only thing cheaper was chipboard. =0A>=0A>1/2 inch was $25 and up!=0A>
=0A>I am becoming a crabby old man, complaining about the cost of things!
=0A>=0A>-=0A>-- =0A>=0A>Blue Skies,=0A>Steve D=0A> =0A>http://www.matron
ics.com/Navigator?="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://
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Subject: | Re: a day at the hangar |
How do you balance a prop like that one? Funny how I phones do that.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: a day at the hangar |
My prop is very flexible, too...
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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AircamperN11MS
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 1:09 PM
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How do you balance a prop like that one? Funny how I phones do that.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: a day at the hangar |
Beautiful Gary. You look very relaxed. It makes me want to go flying again.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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My fuse is 24 inches wide from the outside of one top longeron to the
outside of the other one. Hope I'm correct.
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, john francis <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote:
>
> Did I read the plans wrong? Note in the red oval on the print, "all
> measurements to outside of plywood". I assumed this meant all measurements
> and made the front of my fuselage 24" wide to the outside of the plywood.
>
> Yesterday I borrowed a WW corvair engine mount and found it to be a 1/4"
> too wide for my frame (the engine mount measured 24 1/4" wide). That would
> mean that the front, or far left dimension on the print should be 24 inches
> to the outside of the longerons and not the plywood.....correct? Before I
> remove the two bottom ash cross struts connecting my sides, I want to make
> sure.
>
> John
>
> --------
> John Francis
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420409#420409
>
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Try Ace Hardware. I have found things there that don't exist at Lowes or
Home Depot.
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>w
rote:
> Jim, I agree. In Enid, OK there was a great little true value hardware
> store. Biggars. It had small boxes of screws and such and you could buy 5
> #4 screws as well. they always had that little obscure part you needed or
> would get it. They were put out of business by Walmart and Lowes. (Notic
e
> almost every time you see a Lowes it is near Walmart.) Of course Lowes,
> only sells little nuts and bolts in packages of 5. They also don't carry
> anything that does not have volume sales so you can't find the part you
> really need.
>
> Yesterday I bought 4 #4 plastic washers for 56 cents. They are worth abou
t
> 5 for a penny.
>
> I miss the old fashioned hardware store.
>
> Blue Skies,
> Steve D
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 6:14 AM, jim hyde <jnl96@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> thats what happens when people wont shop with their locally owned
>> merchants. it doesn't take very long until there is no competition. I wa
s
>> in lowes and had to pay 1.79 for two brass screws in a package.i wanted
25
>> nothing in bulk for sale.I shop with the little local guy.. I learned th
e
>> hard way..today people only look at the bottom line and don't see the l
ong
>> term results of driving past their little local merchant to save a nicke
l
>> on a roll of tolet paper. the little guy goes broke and the big guy ups
the
>> price and we can take it or leave it.. americans just cant learn.. when
I
>> was a kid it was considered un-American to buy anything but US made. now
>> try to find US made. my dad fought the chineese in two wars and now the
>> cloths on his great grand kids back are all made out of this country..
>> don't complain about the big box stores. we did it to ourselves. you, me
>> all of us screwed ourselves to save a nickel..so when im standing in sel
f
>> check doing my own checking out with bag of two screws in a hurry to sav
e
>> five minites of time im also screwing my neighbor out of a little job th
at
>> he may need. don't look like im trainable.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 16, 2014 2:41 AM, "mdsalern@yahoo.com" <
>> mdsalern@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> You're not becoming a crabby old man. I'm 32 and feel the same way.
>> When I started driving, minimum wage was $4.25 and gas was $.56 a gallon
.
>> Today, minimum wage is $7.25 and gas is $3.33. The ratio of wages to cos
t
>> has decreased dramatically. This is true for so many things, not just ga
s.
>> I feel that we have seen the last of inexpensive living costs for quite
>> some time. Personally, I'm not sure what to do about it.
>> Michael
>>
>> * From: * Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>;
>> * To: * <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>; <beech-owners@beechcraft.org>;
>> * Subject: * Pietenpol-List: Plywood
>> * Sent: * Sun, Mar 16, 2014 2:10:20 AM
>>
>> HOLY COW! I just returned from Lowe's. I bought one thin piece of
>> crappy B/C plywood to make shelved in my lockers.
>>
>> A thin, Just under 1/4 piece was $15. The only thing cheaper was
>> chipboard.
>>
>> 1/2 inch was $25 and up!
>>
>> I am becoming a crabby old man, complaining about the cost of things!
>>
>> --
>> Blue Skies,
>> Steve D
>>
>> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?= <http://www.matronics.com/Naviga
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Subject: | Re: running lean |
Run the engine at idle and spray intake joints with starting fluid and if
it picks up rpms you have a leak.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Phillips <jack@bedfordlandings.com>
Sent: Sun, Mar 16, 2014 2:31 pm
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: running lean
As Shad says, my bet would be an inductionleak. I had such a leak when I b
uilt my A65, and it caused rough runningand backfiring at idle. Check all
those hose clamps and make sure all therubber boots are on cleanly.
As for the crankshaft seal, this is aneasy task if you have a tapered shaft
engine. More difficult with aflanged shaft.
Good Luck!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list
-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 1:22PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: runninglean
Thanks to those whocommented on why my engine may want continuous carb heat
. Indeed Ithought about restriction through the air filter, and I may try
pulling itoff for a trial run. It's a conventional flat Air-Maze such as i
s used onbillions of other engines like this. I clean it periodically andt
hen spray on some K&N filter oil, and maybe that's the problem.
Ialso thought about why it may be running lean and one of the obviouspossib
ilities is an air leak either at the carb base gasket or on one ofthe many
intake spider clamps and fittings. I may need to check all ofthose out, to
o.
Withoutcarb heat on takeoff, the engine will stumble when power is applied,
and ifcarb heat is not pulled immediately, the engine will die. This is n
otgood.
OscarZuniga
Medford, OR
AirCamper NX41CC "Scout"
A75power
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John,
If you look closely at the pictures of the orange fixture for the Piet mounts in
the top photo at this link:
http://flycorvair.net/2012/11/08/pietenpol-products-motor-mounts-gear-and-instalation-components/
You can see we actually made the fixture width adjustable plus or minus 1/2" for
just the reason that you have discovered. I am not sure if Bob, who you borrowed
the mount from is on this list, but he sent us an exact width to make it
to, so it would fit his plane like a glove. On the other end of the scale, we
made one in the same fixture for Terry Hand's steel tube fuselage that was .750"
narrower. We have spacers to put in the fixture to bias the mount point to
fit either way builders measured their plane.
If you chose to build it to Bob's with, let me know and I will make your mount
accordingly. On a plans built plane, we plan for builder variations like this
in the design of the parts and the tools to make them. -ww
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Subject: | Welcome to Corvair Colleges |
Piet Builders:
I would like to share an invitation to this years Corvair Colleges with all of
you. For starters, we have #29 in Leesburg Florida, the weekend before Sun n Fun.
We intentionally do it this way to allow builders who traditionally travel
to SnF, to hit this college 70 miles north of Lakeland. Many people who used
to go to SnF for 5 days, now go to the college for 3, drive 90 minutes to Lakeland,
and check into SnF for 2 days, see friends, shop and leave before they have
to take out a second mortgage to pay for the camping, admission and food vendors
there. If you would like to get a look at the event, check this out (It
even has a Pietenpol picture)
http://flycorvair.net/2014/03/17/corvair-college-29-close-to-last-call/
We have already had one College this year in Texas, Our local hosts were well known
Pietenpolers Kevin Purtee and Shelley Tumino. You can see some of the event
in photos at this link:
http://flycorvair.net/2014/03/13/corvair-college-28-san-marcos-texas/
College #30 is going to be held at the Zenith Factory at Mexico MO. in the middle
of September. Sebastien Heintz, President of Zenith, is a good friend of ours,
and he has said many times, all builders are welcome at his facility, not
just Zenith guys. We held #26 there last year, and a half dozen guys who were
there Piet builders. If you are from that neck of the woods, plan on attending.
College #31, is an event that should be of interest to all Piet builders. It will
ne in early November in Barnwell SC. It will be hosted by We known Pietenpol
builder/pilot P.F. Beck. He and his crew have also hosted Corvair Colleges #19
,#21, #24 and #27. P.F has long said that he would like to welcome Piet builders
of all power persuasions. Keep in mind that Barn well is also the home
of Don Harpers Piet, know for the Ribblet airfoil tests:
http://flycorvair.net/2013/01/17/nwe-pietenpol-2700-corvair-don-harper-sc/
Barnwell is also the season end event where we award the Cherry Grove trophy, to
the aviator who made the greatest contribution to Corvair Powered flight for
the year. We have previously awarded it to P.F, and two years ago we awarded
it to Kevin and Shelley. More info at this link:
http://flycorvair.net/2013/01/18/the-cherry-grove-trophy/
If you would like a general overview of what Colleges are all about, Get a look
at this link:
http://flycorvair.net/2014/01/31/corvair-college-reference-page/
You do not have to be a Corvair builder to feel welcome at a College. A lot of
learning gos on, and it is done in a fun setting. Colleges are Free. The only
cost involved is the modest fee that goes to the local host to allow them to provide
all the food and drinks, the facility and the workplace. The typical fee
is $75 total for three days, about the best bargain left in aviation. We have
a number of builders who hit several colleges a year, even though their engine
is long done. Many of these people regard the College crowd as their "non-geographical
EAA Chapter." If you local chapter is woefully short of positive people
or experienced builders, sign up for a college, we have plenty of good people
at every one. You can not soar with eagles if you only hang out with turkeys.
If you are new to homebuilding, or you have not made the progress you wanted,
pick better locations and company.-ww.
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William,
Build mine just like Bobs as I am using it to set my brackets.
John
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mine is outside to outside including plywood sides is 24 inches at longeron
s. longeron to longeron excluding ply sides is 23 3/4=C2-=C2-=C2- out
side of engine mounting brackets outside is 24 3/16=C2-=C2- I feel sure
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Subject: | Welcome to Corvair Colleges |
I am one of those builders described in the last paragraph, having attended
5 Corvair Colleges! Maybe your local EAA chapter is like mine, full of
well-meaning people who know a lot about flying but very little about
home-made airplanes. These gatherings, though, are full of people ready to
dig right into the heart of their airplanes...Pietenpol, Zenith, KR,
etc...and learn something meaningful about engines, risk management,
W&B...you name it. During the course of the weekend you never know what
subject is going come up (beyond how to make Corvairs run); but, most
importantly, you will have a great time...if you like hanging out with
doers...no matter whether you ever intend to use a Corvair engine or not.
You will be made welcome, too, because William's love is for experimental
aviation and his passion is for builders to be fully prepared to make good
decisions.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 6:25 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Welcome to Corvair Colleges
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Piet Builders:
I would like to share an invitation to this years Corvair Colleges with all
of you. For starters, we have #29 in Leesburg Florida, the weekend before
Sun n Fun. We intentionally do it this way to allow builders who
traditionally travel to SnF, to hit this college 70 miles north of Lakeland.
Many people who used to go to SnF for 5 days, now go to the college for 3,
drive 90 minutes to Lakeland, and check into SnF for 2 days, see friends,
shop and leave before they have to take out a second mortgage to pay for the
camping, admission and food vendors there. If you would like to get a look
at the event, check this out (It even has a Pietenpol picture)
http://flycorvair.net/2014/03/17/corvair-college-29-close-to-last-call/
We have already had one College this year in Texas, Our local hosts were
well known Pietenpolers Kevin Purtee and Shelley Tumino. You can see some of
the event in photos at this link:
http://flycorvair.net/2014/03/13/corvair-college-28-san-marcos-texas/
College #30 is going to be held at the Zenith Factory at Mexico MO. in the
middle of September. Sebastien Heintz, President of Zenith, is a good friend
of ours, and he has said many times, all builders are welcome at his
facility, not just Zenith guys. We held #26 there last year, and a half
dozen guys who were there Piet builders. If you are from that neck of the
woods, plan on attending.
College #31, is an event that should be of interest to all Piet builders. It
will ne in early November in Barnwell SC. It will be hosted by We known
Pietenpol builder/pilot P.F. Beck. He and his crew have also hosted Corvair
Colleges #19 ,#21, #24 and #27. P.F has long said that he would like to
welcome Piet builders of all power persuasions. Keep in mind that Barn well
is also the home of Don Harpers Piet, know for the Ribblet airfoil tests:
http://flycorvair.net/2013/01/17/nwe-pietenpol-2700-corvair-don-harper-sc/
Barnwell is also the season end event where we award the Cherry Grove
trophy, to the aviator who made the greatest contribution to Corvair Powered
flight for the year. We have previously awarded it to P.F, and two years ago
we awarded it to Kevin and Shelley. More info at this link:
http://flycorvair.net/2013/01/18/the-cherry-grove-trophy/
If you would like a general overview of what Colleges are all about, Get a
look at this link:
http://flycorvair.net/2014/01/31/corvair-college-reference-page/
You do not have to be a Corvair builder to feel welcome at a College. A lot
of learning gos on, and it is done in a fun setting. Colleges are Free. The
only cost involved is the modest fee that goes to the local host to allow
them to provide all the food and drinks, the facility and the workplace. The
typical fee is $75 total for three days, about the best bargain left in
aviation. We have a number of builders who hit several colleges a year, even
though their engine is long done. Many of these people regard the College
crowd as their "non-geographical EAA Chapter." If you local chapter is
woefully short of positive people or experienced builders, sign up for a
college, we have plenty of good people at every one. You can not soar with
eagles if you only hang out with turkeys. If you are new to homebuilding, or
you have not made the progress you wanted, pick better locations and
company.-ww.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420439#420439
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Subject: | Re: running lean |
Back at the hangar this afternoon, another beautiful day! The airplane starts
wonderfully and predictably now, and I had no trouble starting it, cold or hot.
Still no joy on resolving the carb heat issue though. I removed the air filter
and ran the engine... no change whatsoever. Cross that off the list. I
removed all four intake tubes from the spiders, including the clamps and hose
fittings, and inspected everything. Nothing cracked, nothing brittle, nothing
suspect- so I reassembled all the intake tubes and snugged down all the clamps
and ran the engine again. Still no change; cross that off the list. Oh yeah,
and I had asked somebody (Gary) about adjusting the idle mixture. The engine
speeds up just as it quits when the fuel shutoff is pulled and the engine is
allowed to run out of fuel, so I think the idle mixture is correct.
My A&P friend had suggested checking the mixture control disks in the Stromberg
carb, since they can sometimes get cocked when not assembled properly and they
can allow air to go around the plates rather than through the metering holes.
Unwired the mixture lever, pulled the mixture assembly cover and disks, cleaned
and inspected, reassembled and re-safetied. Ran the engine again... no change.
We're eliminating possibilities right and left.
The next suspect is the diverter butterfly in the carb heat box. There is a slight
gap between the edge of the butterfly and the body of the box, and there
is a possibility that at higher airflows and engine speeds, the air is taken partially
through the filter and partially through the hot air bypass and sets
up a swirl or confused airflow into the carb. I'm going to adjust the butterfly
and the carb heat actuation lever to make sure that the butterfly seals tightly
when the carb heat is off. Next weekend ;o)
I did get to taxi the airplane a bit with the new tailwheel and found that the
Matco has its pros and cons over the Scott 2000. When the Matco goes into free
castoring, which it does readily, I can pivot the airplane effortlessly on one
main and maneuver it in very sharp turns. The downside is that it takes brakes
and rudder to get it back into steering mode, a conscious effort compared
to the Scott, which could almost read my mind. Some people have said that they
leave a little slack in the tailwheel springs and cables and this helps, but
I'll have to operate the airplane a little more as-is to see if I want to add
slack. I don't like the idea too much.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: | Re: leaking Continental front main seal |
The seal on my engine is essentially new, and has seeped oil since new because
the crank surface was not prepared properly. I know what needs to be done and
will do it, and I'm sure it will be quick and painless. Here's what my A&P told
me is the way he does it:
"If you have a microwave at the hangar, I pull the spring out of the seal and hook
the spring back together behind the flange. Then I submerge the seal in a
cup of water and microwave for 30 second intervals until it is steaming. Then
just stretch it over the flange and let it shrink back up. While it's shrinking,
work the spring into place in the back of the seal. Give it a coat of Permatex
Ultra around the outside and in the seal cavity, and slide it into place.
Make sure it's fully seated so the seal sits even on the crank and let it
cure overnight."
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: | Re: running lean |
Oscar,
An induction leak, like a hose, will mess up the idle, but it will have little
or no effect on running the engine near it's full static rpm. If you engine needs
carb heat to run at static rpm, something else is wrong.
Plane sat for 18 Months? What kind of gas/was is in it? Ethanol or not, car gas
with 1.5 birthdays is bad. If it was left in the carb, it possibly made things
unhappy.
Dirty idle circuit; again affects at low speed, but not near static rpm.
You mention mag drop at idle? Traditionally, I use 1700 rpm to test the drop on
a small Continental. Is it within limits at that rpm?
Back to basics: It is likely the last thing you touched, and not very likely to
be something like the leaning function in the Stromberg suddenly deciding that
this was the moment to go out of wack.
Mags off: Does the engine have normal compression on all cylinders? Do you have
impulse on both mags? Are they 'clicking' at the same time? Pop the fuel line
off right at the carb and make sure you can fill a 1 quart container in 65-75
seconds or less.
Not likely to be the air box itself. I have seen engines run perfectly fine with
airboxes that had the shaft holes walled out to 1/2". K&N filter oil is great
for......K&N filters. not all elements like it. Spray it on some Bracket filters
and you might as well have sprayed it with clear paint. -ww.
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Subject: | Re: running lean |
William; good points, all! To address them one by one:
The fuel in the tank was 100LL, but it wasn't there for long. Some time ago I
drained the tank to replace the fuel shutoff valve. Nothing on that end of the
system is a problem. Same with the carb... I pulled the small screen on the
float bowl, cleaned it, and 'tickled' the float to make sure it wasn't hanging
up on its pivots (it wasn't). Everything clicked and tinkled inside the float
bowl just like it's supposed to and there was no sign of varnish or residue
on anything.
Mag drop at 1700 RPM is indeed where I test it on runup, and it is normal... about
50 RPM difference between drop on L and R mags. Mags are almost new Slicks,
both have impulse couplers. I have not checked compression on the cylinders
but will do so very soon. I have also not timed the flow from the fuel system
to the carb, but can easily do that as well. My guess is that I can fill a
quart container in less than a minute, yes... but will verify.
I will ditch the K&N filter oil, clean my Air Maze filter again, and replace it-
but I worried about the dust we had in Texas and wanted to have something that
would hang onto the dust on the way through the filter. Up here in Oregon,
we don't have much dust. In any case, I tried running the engine without the
filter and it made no difference in the "I gotta have carb heat!" behavior.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: | Re: Speaking of Doc... |
Doc story #2;
It's 1990 or so. I am working on becoming an A&P at Embry-Riddle to go with an
Aero-engineering degree. I actually like the A&P skills better, as engineering
education is being polluted by an invasion of computer science and programing.
About 1/2 way through my Airframe license the FAA announces that they are going
to have the "Charles Taylor Award" for outstanding A&P mechanic in the US.
Great, adds to the esprit de corps, maybe something to shoot for in 25 years......
Month or two later, here comes a press release from the Feds: They decided that
you need to have 50 years of being an A&P to even apply for the award. Great,
I figure no rush on my application, I can't submit it until 2041. The bottom
of the press release includes the name of some old guy they awarded the first
one to, some cat named Donald Moster or Mostel or something.......
Fast forward to 2004. I am visiting Doc' and Dee's place in Wisconsin. I have known
them for a bit, Doc has even attended our first Corvair College. He has built
his own Corvair engine at the following college. He seems like a promising
student, I try and share a lot of my wisdom with him. When I am speaking with
him, he often has a very interested look on his face and says things like "So
that's how engines work! "
It is my first visit to Doc's house. He is sitting at the kitchen table reading
the editorial page of the paper and commenting on the wisdom of people who write
letters to the editor. I am examining the pictures on the walls in Doc's office.
I am stunned. It is a collection of been there done that, history of aviation
classics. I am having the uncomfortable and rude awakening, that Doc has
been playing "New guy" when he actually has an incredible depth of experience.
Looking though the framed 8x10s I find a certificate with the department of
transportation logo, leaning against a book, kind of dusty. It says CHARLES TAYLOR
AWARD.....DONALD MOSHER.
I clutch it in my hands and realize several things in rapid order 1) Donald moster
or mostel = DONALD 'DOC' MOSHER......2) Doc knows more about engines than
I ever will......3) I have spent the last three years speaking to him as if I
had something to show him.
I walk out to the kitchen, where Doc is still reading letters to the editor. He
does not look up from the paper.
Me: "You have THE CHARLES TAYLOR AWARD!"
Doc: "Whatever...."
Me: "You have THE CHARLES TAYLOR AWARD!"
Doc: "Is there some point?"
Me: "You let me speak to you like I was smart.....and You have THE CHARLES TAYLOR
AWARD!"
Doc, without looking up from paper "So what, it's all political, who you know,
they hand them out like crackerjack prizes."
Me: "My ass they do. 50 Years just to apply for it! I would cut off my left arm
for this. I would sell my sister into the valley of the lepers, I would ....I
would..."
Doc, looking up from paper for the first time: "Really, Your quest for external
validation isn't very becoming. You should look inside yourself for happiness
and satisfaction. "
Me: "Thanks, Obi-Wan Kenobi. I feel soooo much better. " -ww.
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