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1. 06:20 AM - aluminum cabanes (Douwe Blumberg)
2. 06:31 AM - Re: aluminum cabanes (tools)
3. 06:35 AM - landing practice (Douwe Blumberg)
4. 07:05 AM - It's starting to look like.... well, an airplane...!! (aerocarjake)
5. 08:12 AM - Re: It's starting to look like.... well, an airplane...!! (taildrags)
6. 08:14 AM - Re: It's starting to look like.... well, an airplane...!! (taildrags)
7. 09:26 AM - Re: It's starting to look like.... well, an airplane...!! (aerocarjake)
8. 10:15 AM - Question Re: Cabane material (Catdesigns)
9. 10:30 AM - Question Re: Cabane material (bender)
10. 10:45 AM - Re: Question Re: Cabane material (Scott Knowlton)
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| Subject: | aluminum cabanes |
Hey Tom,
I do not believe I have ever seen aluminum cabanes on a Pietenpol. This
certainly doesn't mean it hasn't been done, it just means I've never
encountered it. We've all seen aluminum struts though, and they work.
I would just go with steel since I can't really think of reasons to go with
aluminum (maybe a pound or two, if that"??)
If you want to forge new territories then I suppose you'd start comparing
material strengths etc and keep digging to see if you can find any that have
gone before you.
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: aluminum cabanes |
A reason I can think of to research it is that when you buy wing struts, you buy
the entire 10 ft length. You can opt to have them send the 2ft left overs or
not (as the max length to send is 8ft, which is about the right length for the
Piet). It seems they (the left overs) would make excellent cabanes (right
term?).
Mating aluminum front diagonals to them would make a lot of sense in that case.
This is kind of how I leaning towards doing the Piet I'm building as I REALLY like
the aluminum wing struts.
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| Subject: | landing practice |
Hey,
To help spur on the builders, I want to share yesterday's flight experience.
Got another "weather window" and slipped "RE-PIET" out of the hangar at
7:00pm, had an hour before sunset. The winds had died to almost nothing and
were right down the runway. Decided to do five or six take-offs and
landings. It was a blast!!
It was a bit chilly, but that was offset by some hear-stirring cool-air
performance. Without a well-calibrated airspeed indicator (I only have a
Johnson strut-mounted) I'm leery of really pushing my slow flight
approaches. This day, I decided to inch up on it and just keep "feeling the
lift" as I slowed up to make sure she was still good. Shot a few and things
went really well. I then started experimenting with some pretty aggressive
slips, which was really fun also!
For me (my own preference for all you "nit-pickers" out there) I find it so
much easier than a modern slick airframe. Sure, I slow down some on
downwind, but she slows so fast I pretty much find myself landing her like a
hang glider, I.E. it feels like I am diving (or slipping) to the runway and
then I just slow things up when I get there and plunk her down.
Because our runway is long, I've found myself landing a bit fast so I can
really grease her on and go easy on the tires and landing gear. I really
need to work on my short field landing technique though and this was great
practice.
Asphalt is sure different, but It's where she lives so I have had to get
confident on it. I am still keeping my crosswind component within my
comfort zone , but I'm sneaking up on asphalt proficiency. Got to fly
formation with a Citabria which was fun, I absolutely love flying with other
planes, it's one of my favorite flying experiences.
Keep building, it's worth it!!
Douwe
Ps. I was told that someone had just put their Pietenpol on the airport
"waiting list", but he couldn't remember the name. Anyone out there trying
to get into Gene Snyder (K62) near Falmouth KY??
Pss. Think I'm about to install some VG's for fun.
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| Subject: | It's starting to look like.... well, an airplane...!! |
Hello good Piet-ple,
There was a sunny afternoon in Seattle on Friday so I took the opportunity to cleco
most of the completed parts on to my Piet for a photo shoot - spend a few
minutes contemplating the progress so far.
The wheels are the correct diameter plywood until the real ones are spoke-laced
and the cabaine struts are just mock-ups. I will be working on the center section
and real cabaine struts next.
Hope all of you are enjoying the coming of Spring...
Enjoying the journey......
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: It's starting to look like.... well, an airplane...!! |
Jake: wait. You're going with a radial on your Piet? Why wasn't I told?!! That
is awesome!! It is looking way, way cool! Beautiful work, and I do envy you
the round engine.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: It's starting to look like.... well, an airplane...!! |
Awww, man... I just noticed that you have the external elevator bellcranks and
cables, also a la Navratil. Really nice for the old-timey look. Beautiful!
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: It's starting to look like.... well, an airplane...!! |
Yes, Dick and his beautiful plane have been a real inspiration - as have many other
on this message board...... thx.
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Question Re: Cabane material |
Aluminum has been used but as near as I can remember I have not seen the smaller
sized used. The most recent one that comes to mind is Chris Rusch who used
aluminum but they look to be the larger extrusion. You'll have to ask him to
be certain.
http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Chris%20Rusch/images/image_153.jpg
I know there are more out there but I can't think of them right now.
Chris
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Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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| Subject: | Re: Question Re: Cabane material |
I used the Carlson struts and used the leftover from the wing struts for the cabane
struts... I've only had a few flights but they look good to me.
I have round steel on the forward diagonal struts to the engine mounts
Jeff Faith
SDF
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| Subject: | Re: Question Re: Cabane material |
I just received my struts from Carlson and plan to do the same. Pics please Jeff!!!
Scott Knowlton
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> On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:35 PM, "bender" <dude@twc.com> wrote:
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