---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 04/07/14: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:20 AM - aluminum cabanes (Douwe Blumberg) 2. 06:31 AM - Re: aluminum cabanes (tools) 3. 06:35 AM - landing practice (Douwe Blumberg) 4. 07:05 AM - It's starting to look like.... well, an airplane...!! (aerocarjake) 5. 08:12 AM - Re: It's starting to look like.... well, an airplane...!! (taildrags) 6. 08:14 AM - Re: It's starting to look like.... well, an airplane...!! (taildrags) 7. 09:26 AM - Re: It's starting to look like.... well, an airplane...!! (aerocarjake) 8. 10:15 AM - Question Re: Cabane material (Catdesigns) 9. 10:30 AM - Question Re: Cabane material (bender) 10. 10:45 AM - Re: Question Re: Cabane material (Scott Knowlton) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:20:16 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: aluminum cabanes Hey Tom, I do not believe I have ever seen aluminum cabanes on a Pietenpol. This certainly doesn't mean it hasn't been done, it just means I've never encountered it. We've all seen aluminum struts though, and they work. I would just go with steel since I can't really think of reasons to go with aluminum (maybe a pound or two, if that"??) If you want to forge new territories then I suppose you'd start comparing material strengths etc and keep digging to see if you can find any that have gone before you. Douwe ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:31:06 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: aluminum cabanes From: "tools" A reason I can think of to research it is that when you buy wing struts, you buy the entire 10 ft length. You can opt to have them send the 2ft left overs or not (as the max length to send is 8ft, which is about the right length for the Piet). It seems they (the left overs) would make excellent cabanes (right term?). Mating aluminum front diagonals to them would make a lot of sense in that case. This is kind of how I leaning towards doing the Piet I'm building as I REALLY like the aluminum wing struts. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421691#421691 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:35:52 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: landing practice Hey, To help spur on the builders, I want to share yesterday's flight experience. Got another "weather window" and slipped "RE-PIET" out of the hangar at 7:00pm, had an hour before sunset. The winds had died to almost nothing and were right down the runway. Decided to do five or six take-offs and landings. It was a blast!! It was a bit chilly, but that was offset by some hear-stirring cool-air performance. Without a well-calibrated airspeed indicator (I only have a Johnson strut-mounted) I'm leery of really pushing my slow flight approaches. This day, I decided to inch up on it and just keep "feeling the lift" as I slowed up to make sure she was still good. Shot a few and things went really well. I then started experimenting with some pretty aggressive slips, which was really fun also! For me (my own preference for all you "nit-pickers" out there) I find it so much easier than a modern slick airframe. Sure, I slow down some on downwind, but she slows so fast I pretty much find myself landing her like a hang glider, I.E. it feels like I am diving (or slipping) to the runway and then I just slow things up when I get there and plunk her down. Because our runway is long, I've found myself landing a bit fast so I can really grease her on and go easy on the tires and landing gear. I really need to work on my short field landing technique though and this was great practice. Asphalt is sure different, but It's where she lives so I have had to get confident on it. I am still keeping my crosswind component within my comfort zone , but I'm sneaking up on asphalt proficiency. Got to fly formation with a Citabria which was fun, I absolutely love flying with other planes, it's one of my favorite flying experiences. Keep building, it's worth it!! Douwe Ps. I was told that someone had just put their Pietenpol on the airport "waiting list", but he couldn't remember the name. Anyone out there trying to get into Gene Snyder (K62) near Falmouth KY?? Pss. Think I'm about to install some VG's for fun. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:05:14 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: It's starting to look like.... well, an airplane...!! From: "aerocarjake" Hello good Piet-ple, There was a sunny afternoon in Seattle on Friday so I took the opportunity to cleco most of the completed parts on to my Piet for a photo shoot - spend a few minutes contemplating the progress so far. The wheels are the correct diameter plywood until the real ones are spoke-laced and the cabaine struts are just mock-ups. I will be working on the center section and real cabaine struts next. Hope all of you are enjoying the coming of Spring... Enjoying the journey...... -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421693#421693 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/sunny_3a_322.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/sunny_1_153.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/sunny_2_181.jpg ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:12:20 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It's starting to look like.... well, an airplane...!! From: "taildrags" Jake: wait. You're going with a radial on your Piet? Why wasn't I told?!! That is awesome!! It is looking way, way cool! Beautiful work, and I do envy you the round engine. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421702#421702 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:14:32 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It's starting to look like.... well, an airplane...!! From: "taildrags" Awww, man... I just noticed that you have the external elevator bellcranks and cables, also a la Navratil. Really nice for the old-timey look. Beautiful! -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421703#421703 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:26:55 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It's starting to look like.... well, an airplane...!! From: "aerocarjake" Yes, Dick and his beautiful plane have been a real inspiration - as have many other on this message board...... thx. -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421711#421711 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:15:24 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Question Re: Cabane material From: "Catdesigns" Aluminum has been used but as near as I can remember I have not seen the smaller sized used. The most recent one that comes to mind is Chris Rusch who used aluminum but they look to be the larger extrusion. You'll have to ask him to be certain. http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Chris%20Rusch/images/image_153.jpg I know there are more out there but I can't think of them right now. Chris -------- Chris Sacramento, CA WestCoastPiet.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421719#421719 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:30:35 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Question Re: Cabane material From: "bender" I used the Carlson struts and used the leftover from the wing struts for the cabane struts... I've only had a few flights but they look good to me. I have round steel on the forward diagonal struts to the engine mounts Jeff Faith SDF Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421720#421720 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:45:41 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Question Re: Cabane material From: Scott Knowlton I just received my struts from Carlson and plan to do the same. Pics please Jeff!!! Scott Knowlton Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:35 PM, "bender" wrote: > > > I used the Carlson struts and used the leftover from the wing struts for the cabane struts... I've only had a few flights but they look good to me. > I have round steel on the forward diagonal struts to the engine mounts > > Jeff Faith > SDF > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421720#421720 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.