---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 04/10/14: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:54 AM - Re: It is possible a AirCamper with a MTOW = 450 kg (992 lb) (Vasek) 2. 04:16 AM - Re: Re: aluminum cabanes (Jack) 3. 05:42 AM - Re: aluminum cabanes (Chris Rusch) 4. 06:02 AM - Re: It is possible a AirCamper with a MTOW = 450 kg (992 lb) (tools) 5. 06:41 AM - Re: Piet Date (Ryan Mueller) 6. 07:56 AM - Re: Piet Date (Keith) 7. 02:06 PM - Question Re: Cabane material (taildrags) 8. 02:52 PM - Re: Question Re: Cabane material (glenschweizer@yahoo.com) 9. 06:34 PM - Re: Re: windshields (Steven Dortch) 10. 06:55 PM - Re: Re: It is possible a AirCamper with a MTOW = 450 kg (992 lb) (Steven Dortch) 11. 06:57 PM - OT if you are looking for a place to go, y'all come visit San Antonio, IT'S FIESTA (Steven Dortch) 12. 07:14 PM - Re: OT if you are looking for a place to go, y'all come visit San Antonio, IT'S FIESTA (glenschweizer@yahoo.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:54:55 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It is possible a AirCamper with a MTOW = 450 kg (992 lb) From: "Vasek" Hi, I am building a Pietenpol GN-1 in the Czech Republic (Central Europe) as an ULLa aircraft. Metal construction of fuselage and tail surfaces. Wooden wing, and it will be equipped with an automobile engine (Subaru with a reduction drive?). I haven't even thought it could be heavier than 450kg with me and a passenger? :) I have 68kg with leather B3 jacket :) ...and I don't expect my passenger to be heavier than some 80kg. That is 148kg humans, 20kg fuel, that is 292kg for the aircraft+engine+other liquids. I hope it should not be a problem to achieve :D -------- My production of WW1 propellers, trophies and constructions: Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421864#421864 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:16:05 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: aluminum cabanes From: Jack Great shot Chris, as you know I love the paint scheme! How is you testing going? Sent from my iPad Jack Textor > On Apr 9, 2014, at 1:58 PM, "Chris Rusch" wrote: > > > I used Carlson on both as well..... > > -------- > NX321LR > Now test flying!! > Mitsubishi Powered > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421832#421832 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_3479_152.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:42:52 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: aluminum cabanes From: "Chris Rusch" Thanks for the nice comments guys! We had the worst winter in 30 yrs up here, so the pietenpol has been out of my mind for months.....went to the hanger and looked her over last night and she survived the winter! Now im getting the bug again, so testing will resume very soon. I did attempt making a different prop over the winter on my fancy CNC stuff and made scrap out of the first attempt, but now i know what we did wrong, so once I get some more boards glued up, well give her another try. I will keep posting on the list with my test results. PS to fill the void not having a pietenpol to work on every day, i built this motorcycle.......almost done !! -------- NX321LR Now test flying!! Mitsubishi Powered Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421871#421871 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1115_107.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:56 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It is possible a AirCamper with a MTOW = 450 kg (992 lb) From: "tools" Who knows WHAT I'm gonna hear for saying this... but do you need LSA or unltralight? There's a experimental balled a Bakeng Deuce. I think it's a really eye pleasing design. Made for 125 to 150hp I think and quite a bit larger cockpits. It's typical cloth covered steel fuse and wood wing, but you could easily put jenny gear on, wood struts, change the shape of rudders and stabs to give it a more Piet like appearance and feel. I'm not a huge fan of changing designs... but if it suits your needs, might be worth considering! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421872#421872 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:41:21 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet Date From: Ryan Mueller Congratulations Douwe, and thanks for sharing. Nice to see that you guys are enjoying the fruits of your labor... Ryan do not archive On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > Marci and I had our first real Piet adventure together today. I took > her on Piet date. She's taken lots of short hops, but this was her first > actual trip; 50 minutes each way. > > > Had a nice weather day so we took the afternoon off and flew up to Red > Stewart Airfield in Waynesville, OH. It was cold and bumpy on the way up > but she was a good sport. The wonderful people at Red Stewart (40 I the > letter "I") lent us their car so we could drive into town and have lunch. > Had a superterrific lunch then strolled around town checking out the > antique stores. Marci found a great quilting shop and stocked up on some > fabric. We dawdled because I was watching my home field's weather > (asphalt...) and hoping the forecast was right and the crosswind would die > away at sundown. Sure enough, it did. The flight home was a gorgeous > sunset flight with RE-PIET feeling like she was on rails the whole way > home. > > > It wasn't anything huge, but it was our first adventure together and I'm > really happy my wife had a great time. > > > Keep building, it's worth it! > > Douwe > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:56:31 AM PST US From: Keith Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet Date That is one nice aeroplane. Keith On 10/04/2014 02:00, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > > Marci and I had our first real Piet adventure together today. I took > her on Piet date. She's taken lots of short hops, but this was her > first actual trip; 50 minutes each way. > > Had a nice weather day so we took the afternoon off and flew up to Red > Stewart Airfield in Waynesville, OH. It was cold and bumpy on the way > up but she was a good sport. The wonderful people at Red Stewart (40 > I the letter "I") lent us their car so we could drive into town and > have lunch. Had a superterrific lunch then strolled around town > checking out the antique stores. Marci found a great quilting shop > and stocked up on some fabric. We dawdled because I was watching my > home field's weather (asphalt...) and hoping the forecast was right > and the crosswind would die away at sundown. Sure enough, it did. > The flight home was a gorgeous sunset flight with RE-PIET feeling like > she was on rails the whole way home. > > It wasn't anything huge, but it was our first adventure together and > I'm really happy my wife had a great time. > > Keep building, it's worth it! > > Douwe > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:06:02 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Question Re: Cabane material From: "taildrags" William, I'm very disappointed in you. Instead of your usual highly technical commentary and eye for detail, you went for the decoys that Jeff threw out there. You didn't even notice the rigid aluminum fuel tubing that he's got running down those aluminum cabanes, past the stripped-down airframes in the cockpits. For shame. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421890#421890 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:52:37 PM PST US From: glenschweizer@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Question Re: Cabane material Be nice Oscar maybe he was tired from SunNFun. Keiko Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 10, 2014, at 2:05 PM, "taildrags" wrote: > > > William, I'm very disappointed in you. Instead of your usual highly technical commentary and eye for detail, you went for the decoys that Jeff threw out there. You didn't even notice the rigid aluminum fuel tubing that he's got running down those aluminum cabanes, past the stripped-down airframes in the cockpits. For shame. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421890#421890 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:18 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: windshields From: Steven Dortch How tall is right for the windscreen? The one old one I have seems awfully short. I like the general shape. Laid flat the bottom edge is straight and it stiffens up when curved. When placed with the old holes it is even with my eyes in the tail down attitude and with my nose in the tail up. It is about 7 inches in front of my nose. I can look over it easily. I have looked at Photos online and they are all over the place. Some tall, some short. I have looked at motorcycles and they are all farther away from the face and most newer ones seem slightly below the eyes. Blue Skies, Steve D On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 4:36 PM, taildrags wrote: > > Steve; yes, you are crazy. Well, let me rephrase that: no, your eyes > don't deceive you. I have seen photos of older Piets with no windscreens, > or with one only on the rear cockpit. I wouldn't leave home without mine! > > I just made replacements for my curved windscreens, which actually have 5 > mounting points each. I cut them both out of a single 24"x24" piece of > 3/32" acrylic sheet from Lowe's Aircraft Supply & Lumber. The ones that > they replaced were 1/8" thick and a good deal more work to spring into a > curved shape than these... but I have not flown with these yet. They don't > seem like they will deflect significantly in the airstream as compared with > the 1/8" thick ones. > > I cut them out using an abrasive cutting wheel on a Dremel, smoothed off > the edges with a file and sandpaper (and belt sander where it really needed > hogging). Holes were drilled with a 3/16" "Plexiglas bit" that I got from > Aircraft Spruce, then gently opened up to 7/32" with a step drill bit that > came from Harbor Freight Aero Supply. My mounting hardware consists of > short AN3 bolts with nylock nuts, and I used thin nylon washers under the > bolt head and metal washer and left the nuts just loose enough to permit > some movement between the metal and acrylic. The bolts have smooth > unthreaded shanks on the part that passes through the acrylic. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421849#421849 > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:55:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: It is possible a AirCamper with a MTOW = 450 kg (992 lb) From: Steven Dortch You must mean the European version of ultralight AKA microlight. The US version is tiny. If you are looking at single seat just make a Piet and don't use the front cockpit. For the list. If he were to step up in size but wanted to stay in something similar to a Piet what would you do? Blue Skies, Steve D. > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:57:36 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: OT if you are looking for a place to go, y'all come visit San Antonio, IT'S FIESTA From: Steven Dortch San Antonio is beginning Fiesta. If you are looking for a destination there is a lot going on from April 10-27. It is San Antonio's celebration for San Antonio. www.fiesta-sa.org We have our favorite events. My boys love the rugby tournament. My wife and I enjoy the Zydeco music at a taste of New Orleans, 5 big parades, mariachi concerts, too much to mention. Y'all come visit. -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:14:28 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: OT if you are looking for a place to go, y'all come visit San Antonio, IT'S FIESTA From: glenschweizer@yahoo.com Steve Thanks for the invite . Beautiful city y'all have there. Love River Walk any place that has a river in it needs to take lessons from San Antonio. E verything I saw while visiting there ten years back for son's Air Force basi c training graduation makes me want to go back. Maybe next year Glen Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 10, 2014, at 6:56 PM, Steven Dortch wro te: > > San Antonio is beginning Fiesta. If you are looking for a destination ther e > is a lot going on from April 10-27. It is San Antonio's celebration for Sa n > Antonio. > > www.fiesta-sa.org > > We have our favorite events. My boys love the rugby tournament. My wife an d > I enjoy the Zydeco music at a taste of New Orleans, 5 big parades, mariach i > concerts, too much to mention. > > Y'all come visit. > > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.