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     1. 04:20 AM - Re: Mag needed for an A75 (Jack Phillips)
     2. 04:29 AM - Re: Re: Mag needed for an A75 (Greg Bacon)
     3. 04:58 AM - Re: Mag needed for an A75 (Greg Bacon)
     4. 06:29 AM - Re: Mag needed for an A75 (Gardiner Mason)
     5. 07:07 AM - Re: Mag needed for an A75 (Ryan Mueller)
     6. 07:15 AM - Re: Re: Mag needed for an A75 (Michael Perez)
     7. 08:23 AM - Re: Mag needed for an A75 (Gmail)
     8. 09:04 AM - Re: Re: Mag needed for an A75 (Barry Davis)
     9. 09:16 PM - question for Canadians (off topic) (taildrags)
    10. 09:27 PM - Re: Mag needed for an A75 (taildrags)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Mag needed for an A75 | 
      
      Greg, if you change a Bendix mag for a Slick mag I think you will need a
      different drive gear, and they ain't cheap.  As Oscar said, you might do
      better to just rebuild the Bendix.
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Bacon
      Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 11:30 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mag needed for an A75
      
      
      Hello Everyone,
      
      
      I'm in need of a decent used mag and a harness for an A75-8.  I have a
      Bendix Scintilla SF4RN-8 that isn't working.  The working mag is a Slick
      4230, but a 4333 would be great.  I haven't had any luck finding one at
      Wentworth, Barnstormers, nor eBay.  If you know of one, please let me know.
      gbacon67@gmail.com
      
      
      Thanks,
      
      
      -- 
      Greg Bacon
      
      Prairie Home, MO
      
      NX114D(Mountain Piet)
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Mag needed for an A75 | 
      
      Thanks Oscar.  I appreciate the help.  Yes, I'm pretty sure the BS is
      rebuildable.  All the parts are there and nothing is locked up.  There is a
      fellow in Dallas (Joe) that can rebuild it.  He's the only one I've found
      that can rebuild them.
      
      
      On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 11:53 PM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
      
      >
      > Greg; we'll find you one.  I've put out some feelers and I'm sure a couple
      > of other Pieters will take a look around their hangars and see what we can
      > find.  Meanwhile, is your dead Bendix Scintilla really dead?  They are
      > rebuildable.
      >
      > --------
      > Oscar Zuniga
      > Medford, OR
      > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      > A75 power
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422228#422228
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Greg Bacon
      Prairie Home, MO
      NX114D(Mountain Piet)
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Mag needed for an A75 | 
      
      Hi Jack.  Yes, rebuilding the old Bendix Scintilla is not a bad option.
       Joe's ballpark quote to rebuild it is $600-$700.  My mechanic thought that
      was very high and suggested I search for a good Slick or a newer model
      Bendix first.  He didn't mention the drive gear nor the wiring harness
      replacement costs.  I'm hoping to find a good deal, maybe do some trading.
       I do have a rebuildable Corvair I'm willing to part with...
      
      
      On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Jack Phillips <jack@bedfordlandings.com>wr
      ote:
      
      >     Greg, if you change a Bendix mag for a Slick mag I think you will
      > need a different drive gear, and they ain=99t cheap.  As Oscar said
      , you
      > might do better to just rebuild the Bendix.
      >
      >
      > Jack Phillips
      >
      > NX899JP
      >
      > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      >
      >
      >  ------------------------------
      >
      > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
      > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Bacon
      > *Sent:* Monday, April 21, 2014 11:30 PM
      > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Mag needed for an A75
      >
      >
      > Hello Everyone,
      >
      >
      > I'm in need of a decent used mag and a harness for an A75-8.  I have a
      > Bendix Scintilla SF4RN-8 that isn't working.  The working mag is a Slick
      > 4230, but a 4333 would be great.  I haven't had any luck finding one at
      > Wentworth, Barnstormers, nor eBay.  If you know of one, please let me kno
      w.
      >  gbacon67@gmail.com
      >
      >
      > Thanks,
      >
      >
      > --
      > Greg Bacon
      >
      > Prairie Home, MO
      >
      > NX114D(Mountain Piet)
      >
      >
      > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List <http://www.matronics.
      com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>*
      >
      > *http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com>*
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      Greg Bacon
      Prairie Home, MO
      NX114D(Mountain Piet)
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Mag needed for an A75 | 
      
      Greg, call Don Swords at Dons Dream Machines in Griffin Ga. He has mags. Che
      ers, Gardiner
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      > On Apr 22, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Greg Bacon <gbacon67@gmail.com> wrote:
      > 
      > Hi Jack.  Yes, rebuilding the old Bendix Scintilla is not a bad option.  J
      oe's ballpark quote to rebuild it is $600-$700.  My mechanic thought that wa
      s very high and suggested I search for a good Slick or a newer model Bendix f
      irst.  He didn't mention the drive gear nor the wiring harness replacement c
      osts.  I'm hoping to find a good deal, maybe do some trading.  I do have a r
      ebuildable Corvair I'm willing to part with...
      > 
      > 
      >> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Jack Phillips <jack@bedfordlandings.com>
       wrote:
      >> Greg, if you change a Bendix mag for a Slick mag I think you will need a d
      ifferent drive gear, and they ain=99t cheap.  As Oscar said, you might
       do better to just rebuild the Bendix.
      >> 
      >>  
      >> 
      >> Jack Phillips
      >> 
      >> NX899JP
      >> 
      >> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      >> 
      >>  
      >> 
      >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-l
      ist-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Bacon
      >> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 11:30 PM
      >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mag needed for an A75
      >> 
      >>  
      >> 
      >> Hello Everyone,
      >> 
      >>  
      >> 
      >> I'm in need of a decent used mag and a harness for an A75-8.  I have a Be
      ndix Scintilla SF4RN-8 that isn't working.  The working mag is a Slick 4230,
       but a 4333 would be great.  I haven't had any luck finding one at Wentworth
      , Barnstormers, nor eBay.  If you know of one, please let me know.  gbacon67
      @gmail.com
      >> 
      >>  
      >> 
      >> Thanks,
      >> 
      >>  
      >> 
      >> -- 
      >> Greg Bacon
      >> 
      >> Prairie Home, MO
      >> 
      >> NX114D(Mountain Piet)
      >> 
      >>  
      >> 
      >>  
      >>  
      >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      >> http://forums.matronics.com
      >> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      >>  
      >> 
      >> 
      >> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      >> tp://forums.matronics.com
      >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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      > 
      > 
      > 
      > -- 
      > Greg Bacon
      > Prairie Home, MO
      > NX114D(Mountain Piet)
      > 
      > 
      > 
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| Subject:  | Re: Mag needed for an A75 | 
      
      You might try calling Aircraft Systems in Rockford, IL, or Poplar Grove
      Airmotive (both good shops):
      
      http://www.acs-rfd.com/services.htm
      
      http://www.poplargroveairmotive.com/Maintenance/index.html
      
      
      On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Greg Bacon <gbacon67@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      > Hi Jack.  Yes, rebuilding the old Bendix Scintilla is not a bad option.
      >  Joe's ballpark quote to rebuild it is $600-$700.  My mechanic thought th
      at
      > was very high and suggested I search for a good Slick or a newer model
      > Bendix first.  He didn't mention the drive gear nor the wiring harness
      > replacement costs.  I'm hoping to find a good deal, maybe do some trading
      .
      >  I do have a rebuildable Corvair I'm willing to part with...
      >
      >
      > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Jack Phillips <jack@bedfordlandings.com>
      wrote:
      >
      >>     Greg, if you change a Bendix mag for a Slick mag I think you will
      >> need a different drive gear, and they ain=99t cheap.  As Oscar sai
      d, you
      >> might do better to just rebuild the Bendix.
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> Jack Phillips
      >>
      >> NX899JP
      >>
      >> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      >>
      >>
      >>  ------------------------------
      >>
      >> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
      >> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Bacon
      >> *Sent:* Monday, April 21, 2014 11:30 PM
      >> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Mag needed for an A75
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> Hello Everyone,
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> I'm in need of a decent used mag and a harness for an A75-8.  I have a
      >> Bendix Scintilla SF4RN-8 that isn't working.  The working mag is a Slick
      >> 4230, but a 4333 would be great.  I haven't had any luck finding one at
      >> Wentworth, Barnstormers, nor eBay.  If you know of one, please let me kn
      ow.
      >>  gbacon67@gmail.com
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> Thanks,
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> --
      >> Greg Bacon
      >>
      >> Prairie Home, MO
      >>
      >> NX114D(Mountain Piet)
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>  *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List <http://www.matronic
      s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>*
      >>
      >> *http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com>*
      >>
      >> *http://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://www.matronics.com/contrib
      ution>*
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> *
      >>
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      >
      > --
      > Greg Bacon
      > Prairie Home, MO
      > NX114D(Mountain Piet)
      >
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| Subject:  | Re: Mag needed for an A75 | 
      
      Are there overhaul manuals available for Scintilla mags?I overhauled both of my
      AM-4 magsand found the manual to be very good. Is it not "legal" to do your own
      overhaul as a repairman, (assuming you have that certificate for building the
      plane) on an experimental engine? My point is not to sell one-self short before
      trying it yourself. If the parts/seals/gaskets are available, it really is
      quite simple. What you have now does not work, so you can't really make it worse.
      
      I have two CASE mags that I will someday rebuild...if anyone can point me to a
      parts source or overhaul manual for those I would be much obliged.
      
      
      If God is your co-pilot...switch seats.
      Mike Perez
      KaretakerAero
      STILL Building...
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Mag needed for an A75 | 
      
      Gardiner,
      Your friend Glenn Morrow has two working BS mags (same model number as what I
       have) plus a complete wiring harness.  I'll be sending him payment for that
       shortly. 
      Thanks everyone for your quick response and willingness to help with this!!
      
      Greg Bacon
      Garratt Callahan
      gbacon@g-c.com
      (573)489-4795
      
      > On Apr 22, 2014, at 8:29 AM, Gardiner Mason <airlion2@gmail.com> wrote:
      > 
      > Greg, call Don Swords at Dons Dream Machines in Griffin Ga. He has mags. C
      heers, Gardiner
      > 
      > Sent from my iPad
      > 
      >> On Apr 22, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Greg Bacon <gbacon67@gmail.com> wrote:
      >> 
      >> Hi Jack.  Yes, rebuilding the old Bendix Scintilla is not a bad option.  J
      oe's ballpark quote to rebuild it is $600-$700.  My mechanic thought that wa
      s very high and suggested I search for a good Slick or a newer model Bendix f
      irst.  He didn't mention the drive gear nor the wiring harness replacement c
      osts.  I'm hoping to find a good deal, maybe do some trading.  I do have a r
      ebuildable Corvair I'm willing to part with...
      >> 
      >> 
      >>> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Jack Phillips <jack@bedfordlandings.com
      > wrote:
      >>> Greg, if you change a Bendix mag for a Slick mag I think you will need a
       different drive gear, and they ain=99t cheap.  As Oscar said, you mig
      ht do better to just rebuild the Bendix.
      >>> 
      >>>  
      >>> 
      >>> Jack Phillips
      >>> 
      >>> NX899JP
      >>> 
      >>> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      >>> 
      >>>  
      >>> 
      >>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-
      list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Bacon
      >>> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 11:30 PM
      >>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mag needed for an A75
      >>> 
      >>>  
      >>> 
      >>> Hello Everyone,
      >>> 
      >>>  
      >>> 
      >>> I'm in need of a decent used mag and a harness for an A75-8.  I have a B
      endix Scintilla SF4RN-8 that isn't working.  The working mag is a Slick 4230
      , but a 4333 would be great.  I haven't had any luck finding one at Wentwort
      h, Barnstormers, nor eBay.  If you know of one, please let me know.  gbacon6
      7@gmail.com
      >>> 
      >>>  
      >>> 
      >>> Thanks,
      >>> 
      >>>  
      >>> 
      >>> -- 
      >>> Greg Bacon
      >>> 
      >>> Prairie Home, MO
      >>> 
      >>> NX114D(Mountain Piet)
      >>> 
      >>>  
      >>> 
      >>>  
      >>>  
      >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      >>> http://forums.matronics.com
      >>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      >>>  
      >>> 
      >>> 
      >>> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      >>> tp://forums.matronics.com
      >>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      >>> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> -- 
      >> Greg Bacon
      >> Prairie Home, MO
      >> NX114D(Mountain Piet)
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| Subject:  | Re: Mag needed for an A75 | 
      
      
      I just took a good set off the Cub and replaced them with Slicks to get
      shielded wires. I moved the Cub to our Public airport and really have to
      start using radios for the traffic pattern to be safe. The engine noise was
      light, but is an excuse to buy something for the airplanes. LOL   I'll look
      at them tonight and let you know exactly what they are. 
      Barry
      NX973BP
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of taildrags
      Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:54 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mag needed for an A75
      
      --> <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      
      Greg; we'll find you one.  I've put out some feelers and I'm sure a couple
      of other Pieters will take a look around their hangars and see what we can
      find.  Meanwhile, is your dead Bendix Scintilla really dead?  They are
      rebuildable.
      
      --------
      Oscar Zuniga
      Medford, OR
      Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      A75 power
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422228#422228
      
      
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| Subject:  | question for Canadians (off topic) | 
      
      
      A theoretical question for any of you who might be able to help me understand the
      HST (sales tax).  Let's say I buy an airplane from a guy in Ontario.  He de-registers
      the Canadian-registered aircraft and I bring it to the U.S.
      
      Forget the registration business... what I'm wondering is, when does the HST come
      into play?  To whom is it paid, and when?  If I hand him some money and drive
      away with the airplane without any further paperwork or action, will U.S. Customs
      ask me for a bill of sale and proof of payment of HST on the purchase?
      If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is there to hear it, does it make any
      noise?  ;o)
      
      Theoretical, purely theoretical.  Thanks.
      
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      Oscar Zuniga
      Medford, OR
      Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      A75 power
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422285#422285
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Mag needed for an A75 | 
      
      
      Mike; depending on the series of Case magneto, manuals are to be found on eBay.
      Example: manual for a 660 series mag, $93.  Parts are something else again though.
      I do have a source for magneto repairs, a farm implement outfit in the
      Midwest that overhauled a Fairbanks-Morse magneto that I'm going to use on the
      UltraVair engine.  They may be able to help with parts for these old mags.
      
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      Oscar Zuniga
      Medford, OR
      Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      A75 power
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422286#422286
      
      
 
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