---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 04/22/14: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:20 AM - Re: Mag needed for an A75 (Jack Phillips) 2. 04:29 AM - Re: Re: Mag needed for an A75 (Greg Bacon) 3. 04:58 AM - Re: Mag needed for an A75 (Greg Bacon) 4. 06:29 AM - Re: Mag needed for an A75 (Gardiner Mason) 5. 07:07 AM - Re: Mag needed for an A75 (Ryan Mueller) 6. 07:15 AM - Re: Re: Mag needed for an A75 (Michael Perez) 7. 08:23 AM - Re: Mag needed for an A75 (Gmail) 8. 09:04 AM - Re: Re: Mag needed for an A75 (Barry Davis) 9. 09:16 PM - question for Canadians (off topic) (taildrags) 10. 09:27 PM - Re: Mag needed for an A75 (taildrags) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:20:09 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Mag needed for an A75 Greg, if you change a Bendix mag for a Slick mag I think you will need a different drive gear, and they ain't cheap. As Oscar said, you might do better to just rebuild the Bendix. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Bacon Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 11:30 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mag needed for an A75 Hello Everyone, I'm in need of a decent used mag and a harness for an A75-8. I have a Bendix Scintilla SF4RN-8 that isn't working. The working mag is a Slick 4230, but a 4333 would be great. I haven't had any luck finding one at Wentworth, Barnstormers, nor eBay. If you know of one, please let me know. gbacon67@gmail.com Thanks, -- Greg Bacon Prairie Home, MO NX114D(Mountain Piet) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:29:29 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mag needed for an A75 From: Greg Bacon Thanks Oscar. I appreciate the help. Yes, I'm pretty sure the BS is rebuildable. All the parts are there and nothing is locked up. There is a fellow in Dallas (Joe) that can rebuild it. He's the only one I've found that can rebuild them. On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 11:53 PM, taildrags wrote: > > Greg; we'll find you one. I've put out some feelers and I'm sure a couple > of other Pieters will take a look around their hangars and see what we can > find. Meanwhile, is your dead Bendix Scintilla really dead? They are > rebuildable. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422228#422228 > > -- Greg Bacon Prairie Home, MO NX114D(Mountain Piet) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:58:50 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Mag needed for an A75 From: Greg Bacon Hi Jack. Yes, rebuilding the old Bendix Scintilla is not a bad option. Joe's ballpark quote to rebuild it is $600-$700. My mechanic thought that was very high and suggested I search for a good Slick or a newer model Bendix first. He didn't mention the drive gear nor the wiring harness replacement costs. I'm hoping to find a good deal, maybe do some trading. I do have a rebuildable Corvair I'm willing to part with... On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Jack Phillips wr ote: > Greg, if you change a Bendix mag for a Slick mag I think you will > need a different drive gear, and they ain=99t cheap. As Oscar said , you > might do better to just rebuild the Bendix. > > > Jack Phillips > > NX899JP > > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Bacon > *Sent:* Monday, April 21, 2014 11:30 PM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Mag needed for an A75 > > > Hello Everyone, > > > I'm in need of a decent used mag and a harness for an A75-8. I have a > Bendix Scintilla SF4RN-8 that isn't working. The working mag is a Slick > 4230, but a 4333 would be great. I haven't had any luck finding one at > Wentworth, Barnstormers, nor eBay. If you know of one, please let me kno w. > gbacon67@gmail.com > > > Thanks, > > > -- > Greg Bacon > > Prairie Home, MO > > NX114D(Mountain Piet) > > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List * > > *http://forums.matronics.com * > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution * > > > * > =========== .matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> =========== =========== om/contribution> =========== > > * > > -- Greg Bacon Prairie Home, MO NX114D(Mountain Piet) ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:48 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Mag needed for an A75 From: Gardiner Mason Greg, call Don Swords at Dons Dream Machines in Griffin Ga. He has mags. Che ers, Gardiner Sent from my iPad > On Apr 22, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Greg Bacon wrote: > > Hi Jack. Yes, rebuilding the old Bendix Scintilla is not a bad option. J oe's ballpark quote to rebuild it is $600-$700. My mechanic thought that wa s very high and suggested I search for a good Slick or a newer model Bendix f irst. He didn't mention the drive gear nor the wiring harness replacement c osts. I'm hoping to find a good deal, maybe do some trading. I do have a r ebuildable Corvair I'm willing to part with... > > >> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Jack Phillips wrote: >> Greg, if you change a Bendix mag for a Slick mag I think you will need a d ifferent drive gear, and they ain=99t cheap. As Oscar said, you might do better to just rebuild the Bendix. >> >> >> >> Jack Phillips >> >> NX899JP >> >> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia >> >> >> >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-l ist-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Bacon >> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 11:30 PM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mag needed for an A75 >> >> >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> >> >> I'm in need of a decent used mag and a harness for an A75-8. I have a Be ndix Scintilla SF4RN-8 that isn't working. The working mag is a Slick 4230, but a 4333 would be great. I haven't had any luck finding one at Wentworth , Barnstormers, nor eBay. If you know of one, please let me know. gbacon67 @gmail.com >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> -- >> Greg Bacon >> >> Prairie Home, MO >> >> NX114D(Mountain Piet) >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> http://forums.matronics.com >> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> >> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > > > > -- > Greg Bacon > Prairie Home, MO > NX114D(Mountain Piet) > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:07:49 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Mag needed for an A75 From: Ryan Mueller You might try calling Aircraft Systems in Rockford, IL, or Poplar Grove Airmotive (both good shops): http://www.acs-rfd.com/services.htm http://www.poplargroveairmotive.com/Maintenance/index.html On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Greg Bacon wrote: > Hi Jack. Yes, rebuilding the old Bendix Scintilla is not a bad option. > Joe's ballpark quote to rebuild it is $600-$700. My mechanic thought th at > was very high and suggested I search for a good Slick or a newer model > Bendix first. He didn't mention the drive gear nor the wiring harness > replacement costs. I'm hoping to find a good deal, maybe do some trading .. > I do have a rebuildable Corvair I'm willing to part with... > > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Jack Phillips wrote: > >> Greg, if you change a Bendix mag for a Slick mag I think you will >> need a different drive gear, and they ain=99t cheap. As Oscar sai d, you >> might do better to just rebuild the Bendix. >> >> >> >> Jack Phillips >> >> NX899JP >> >> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: >> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Bacon >> *Sent:* Monday, April 21, 2014 11:30 PM >> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Mag needed for an A75 >> >> >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> >> >> I'm in need of a decent used mag and a harness for an A75-8. I have a >> Bendix Scintilla SF4RN-8 that isn't working. The working mag is a Slick >> 4230, but a 4333 would be great. I haven't had any luck finding one at >> Wentworth, Barnstormers, nor eBay. If you know of one, please let me kn ow. >> gbacon67@gmail.com >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> -- >> Greg Bacon >> >> Prairie Home, MO >> >> NX114D(Mountain Piet) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List * >> >> *http://forums.matronics.com * >> >> *http://www.matronics.com/contribution * >> >> >> >> * >> >> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> * >> >> > > > -- > Greg Bacon > Prairie Home, MO > NX114D(Mountain Piet) > > * > =========== .matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> =========== =========== om/contribution> =========== > > * > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:15:39 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mag needed for an A75 Are there overhaul manuals available for Scintilla mags?I overhauled both of my AM-4 magsand found the manual to be very good. Is it not "legal" to do your own overhaul as a repairman, (assuming you have that certificate for building the plane) on an experimental engine? My point is not to sell one-self short before trying it yourself. If the parts/seals/gaskets are available, it really is quite simple. What you have now does not work, so you can't really make it worse. I have two CASE mags that I will someday rebuild...if anyone can point me to a parts source or overhaul manual for those I would be much obliged. If God is your co-pilot...switch seats. Mike Perez KaretakerAero STILL Building... ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:23:50 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Mag needed for an A75 From: Gmail Gardiner, Your friend Glenn Morrow has two working BS mags (same model number as what I have) plus a complete wiring harness. I'll be sending him payment for that shortly. Thanks everyone for your quick response and willingness to help with this!! Greg Bacon Garratt Callahan gbacon@g-c.com (573)489-4795 > On Apr 22, 2014, at 8:29 AM, Gardiner Mason wrote: > > Greg, call Don Swords at Dons Dream Machines in Griffin Ga. He has mags. C heers, Gardiner > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Apr 22, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Greg Bacon wrote: >> >> Hi Jack. Yes, rebuilding the old Bendix Scintilla is not a bad option. J oe's ballpark quote to rebuild it is $600-$700. My mechanic thought that wa s very high and suggested I search for a good Slick or a newer model Bendix f irst. He didn't mention the drive gear nor the wiring harness replacement c osts. I'm hoping to find a good deal, maybe do some trading. I do have a r ebuildable Corvair I'm willing to part with... >> >> >>> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Jack Phillips wrote: >>> Greg, if you change a Bendix mag for a Slick mag I think you will need a different drive gear, and they ain=99t cheap. As Oscar said, you mig ht do better to just rebuild the Bendix. >>> >>> >>> >>> Jack Phillips >>> >>> NX899JP >>> >>> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia >>> >>> >>> >>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol- list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Bacon >>> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 11:30 PM >>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mag needed for an A75 >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm in need of a decent used mag and a harness for an A75-8. I have a B endix Scintilla SF4RN-8 that isn't working. The working mag is a Slick 4230 , but a 4333 would be great. I haven't had any luck finding one at Wentwort h, Barnstormers, nor eBay. If you know of one, please let me know. gbacon6 7@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Greg Bacon >>> >>> Prairie Home, MO >>> >>> NX114D(Mountain Piet) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >>> http://forums.matronics.com >>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> >>> >>> >>> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >>> tp://forums.matronics.com >>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Greg Bacon >> Prairie Home, MO >> NX114D(Mountain Piet) >> >> >> >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> npol-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> //forums.matronics.com >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:18 AM PST US From: "Barry Davis" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mag needed for an A75 I just took a good set off the Cub and replaced them with Slicks to get shielded wires. I moved the Cub to our Public airport and really have to start using radios for the traffic pattern to be safe. The engine noise was light, but is an excuse to buy something for the airplanes. LOL I'll look at them tonight and let you know exactly what they are. Barry NX973BP -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of taildrags Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:54 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mag needed for an A75 --> Greg; we'll find you one. I've put out some feelers and I'm sure a couple of other Pieters will take a look around their hangars and see what we can find. Meanwhile, is your dead Bendix Scintilla really dead? They are rebuildable. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422228#422228 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:16:02 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: question for Canadians (off topic) From: "taildrags" A theoretical question for any of you who might be able to help me understand the HST (sales tax). Let's say I buy an airplane from a guy in Ontario. He de-registers the Canadian-registered aircraft and I bring it to the U.S. Forget the registration business... what I'm wondering is, when does the HST come into play? To whom is it paid, and when? If I hand him some money and drive away with the airplane without any further paperwork or action, will U.S. Customs ask me for a bill of sale and proof of payment of HST on the purchase? If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is there to hear it, does it make any noise? ;o) Theoretical, purely theoretical. Thanks. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422285#422285 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:27:28 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mag needed for an A75 From: "taildrags" Mike; depending on the series of Case magneto, manuals are to be found on eBay. Example: manual for a 660 series mag, $93. Parts are something else again though. I do have a source for magneto repairs, a farm implement outfit in the Midwest that overhauled a Fairbanks-Morse magneto that I'm going to use on the UltraVair engine. They may be able to help with parts for these old mags. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422286#422286 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.