---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 04/30/14: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:01 AM - Re: Re: High quality PIET construction (larharris2 Harris) 2. 08:26 AM - Re: High quality PIET construction (aerocarjake) 3. 12:55 PM - Wood gear legs. (Scott Knowlton) 4. 01:01 PM - Re: Wood gear legs. (Gary Boothe) 5. 01:13 PM - Re: Wood gear legs. (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]) 6. 01:36 PM - Re: Wood gear legs. (Brian Kenney) 7. 02:07 PM - Re: Wood gear legs. (Jack Phillips) 8. 02:11 PM - Re: Wood gear legs. (bubbleboy) 9. 04:59 PM - Seat cushons (Steven Dortch) 10. 05:09 PM - Re: Seat cushons (Gary Boothe) 11. 05:52 PM - Re: Seat cushons (Steven Dortch) 12. 09:22 PM - Re: Wood gear legs. (tools) 13. 11:12 PM - Re: Wood gear legs. (Clif Dawson) 14. 11:45 PM - Re: GN-1 Landing Gear mount fairing (Peter Johnson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:01:19 AM PST US From: larharris2 Harris Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: High quality PIET construction Magnificent construction. I envy the workmanship. But I wonder about the ad ded weight of those layers of finish needed to get that glistening shine. Lorenzo ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:05 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: High quality PIET construction From: "aerocarjake" Wow....! It'll be a shame to cover it..... -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422594#422594 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:55:39 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wood gear legs. From: Scott Knowlton Those who are operating on wood gear legs.... Did you glue the spruce legs t o the ash blocks or did you rely on the steel fittings and bolts to make the connection? Yes I know, small work space but it's warm, dry and ten steps from the kitch en! Scott Knowlton. Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:01:21 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood gear legs. From: Gary Boothe I dowelled and glued mine, but I'm not sure it matters. Gary NX308MB Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 30, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Scott Knowlton wrote: > > Those who are operating on wood gear legs.... Did you glue the spruce legs to the ash blocks or did you rely on the steel fittings and bolts to make the connection? > > Yes I know, small work space but it's warm, dry and ten steps from the kitchen! > > Scott Knowlton. > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:13:06 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wood gear legs. Scott-I glued that junction with T-88 after scuff sanding the mating pieces . With my landings I could use all the help I can get on the undercarriage strength! Mike C. Ohio [cid:image001.jpg@01CF648F.06F20920] ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:36:05 PM PST US From: Brian Kenney Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wood gear legs. I glued the spruce and ash together Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wood gear legs. From: flyingscott_k@hotmail.com Those who are operating on wood gear legs.... Did you glue the spruce legs to the ash blocks or did you rely on the steel fittings and bolts to make t he connection? Yes I know=2C small work space but it's warm=2C dry and ten steps from the kitchen! Scott Knowlton. Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:07:45 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wood gear legs. I relied on the steel fittings and the bolts. Over 300 hours, hundreds of landings (including one forced landing that ended in a groundloop) and no problems at all with the wooden gear. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Knowlton Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 3:55 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wood gear legs. Those who are operating on wood gear legs.... Did you glue the spruce legs to the ash blocks or did you rely on the steel fittings and bolts to make the connection? Yes I know, small work space but it's warm, dry and ten steps from the kitchen! Scott Knowlton. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:11:52 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood gear legs. From: "bubbleboy" I glued mine. If I hadnt I would have needed five hands to hold it all together to drill the metal fittings. Scotty -------- Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Tail and Ribs built...Building fuselage & undercarriage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422618#422618 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:59:35 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Seat cushons From: Steven Dortch Gentlemen, and Oscar, I have the old seat worn out and ugly seat cushions and may use them for my first flights. However, I have enough Pleather to have a new set made. I would appreciate your thoughts on: Design, Just enough to go under my seat and back with some wiggle room. Should It be wider? Cushion padding materiel (I am thinking firmer memory foam) Thickness. What I have is VERY thin and barely . But I don't want to get too thick and push myself toward the instruments. Shape. I am probably going to copy what I have, but do y'all have any modifications you suggest. Attachments, The old ones have push snaps on some pads none on others. How about Velcro or simply tucking tabs in? Or is it needed at all? I hold it in from the back seat. Thanks in advance for the guidance. -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:09:46 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Seat cushons From: Gary Boothe Make it like Scott Liefield's! It's like sitting in an easy chair! Gary NX308MB Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 30, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Steven Dortch wro te: > > Gentlemen, and Oscar, I have the old seat worn out and ugly seat cushions a nd may use them for my first flights. > > However, I have enough Pleather to have a new set made. I would appreciate your thoughts on: > Design, Just enough to go under my seat and back with some wiggle room. S hould It be wider? > Cushion padding materiel (I am thinking firmer memory foam) > Thickness. What I have is VERY thin and barely . But I don't want to get t oo thick and push myself toward the instruments. > Shape. I am probably going to copy what I have, but do y'all have any modi fications you suggest. > Attachments, The old ones have push snaps on some pads none on others. How about Velcro or simply tucking tabs in? Or is it needed at all? I hold it i n from the back seat. > > Thanks in advance for the guidance. > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:52:58 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Seat cushons From: Steven Dortch Link to photos? On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: > Make it like Scott Liefield's! It's like sitting in an easy chair! > > Gary > NX308MB > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 30, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Steven Dortch > wrote: > > Gentlemen, and Oscar, I have the old seat worn out and ugly seat cushions > and may use them for my first flights. > > However, I have enough Pleather to have a new set made. I would appreciate > your thoughts on: > Design, Just enough to go under my seat and back with some wiggle room. > Should It be wider? > Cushion padding materiel (I am thinking firmer memory foam) > Thickness. What I have is VERY thin and barely . But I don't want to get > too thick and push myself toward the instruments. > Shape. I am probably going to copy what I have, but do y'all have any > modifications you suggest. > Attachments, The old ones have push snaps on some pads none on others. How > about Velcro or simply tucking tabs in? Or is it needed at all? I hold it > in from the back seat. > > Thanks in advance for the guidance. > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > > * > > > * > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:22:38 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood gear legs. From: "tools" I glued and stapled. The glue really doesn't do much, the staples DO add quite a bit of strength. The glue doesn't do much, BUT the penalty is NIL. It does add a little, in that it might prevent a LITTLE movement, so there's no reason not to. While the staples do add strength, not much in the big scheme of things. They did, however, hold it all together VERY well while I got the metal pieces all bolted in there. I used 2" long 1/4" crown staples. FWIW, the bottom end is FAR from the weak link. It's the other end that's important. Make sure it's fitted well. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422650#422650 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:12:01 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood gear legs. Don't forget that the strut bracket goes from the outside to inside plates across the fuselage bottom between the fuselage and your nice new legs. I see a tent in the backyard. Soon. :-) Clif Counting days! :-) Those who are operating on wood gear legs.... Did you glue the spruce legs to the ash blocks or did you rely on the steel fittings and bolts to make the connection? Yes I know, small work space but it's warm, dry and ten steps from the kitchen! Scott Knowlton. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Sent from my iPhone -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:45:24 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: GN-1 Landing Gear mount fairing From: Peter Johnson John, Thanks, its not so much the wing fittings etc but the area under the fuse where the gear framework is fitted. This is a link to a photo of the original frame i.e. No fairing at all, no additional stringers either. http://repiet.cpc-world.com/images/DSC00140_JPG.jpg Cheers Peter On 28/04/2014 9:18 pm, "John Franklin" wrote: > >Hi Peter, > >I am also close to covering my GN-1 fuselage, and I _think_ what Oscar is >referring to with the aluminum is like what DJ Vegh did as shown in this >link: http://www.imagedv.com/aircamper/log/image-pages/02-19-05.htm > >I'm hoping that will work as opposed to wood fairings, which would add >considerable weight. I did use wood fairings around my top engine mount >brackets and will cover them with aluminum panels to allow for inspection >and access. See following link: >http://s897.photobucket.com/user/az-gold/media/CC%2028%20San%20Marcos%20TX >%20%20%20Feb%2028%20-%20March%202%20%202014/DSCF0252.jpg.html > > >Regards, >John Franklin >GN-1 / Corvair 164cid >Prairie Aire 4TA0 >Needville, TX >-----Original Message----- > >From: Peter Johnson > >Sent: Apr 27, 2014 6:32 AM > >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Pietenpol-List: GN-1 Landing Gear mount fairing > > >Hi Guys, >I am about ready to cover my GN-1 and was wondering if anybody had any >ideas about the landing gear mount fairing. I have added some wood >stringers under the fuse that stop either side of the gear mounts (see >page two of the photos page on the website). Is this area faired or just >left as is. >Pics would be useful. >Cheers >PeterWonthaggi Australiahttp://repiet.cpc-world.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.