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     1. 04:56 AM - Re: 3 Piece Wing Question (Michael Perez)
     2. 05:39 AM - Re: 3 Piece Wing Question (Chris Rusch)
     3. 07:29 AM - Re: 3 Piece Wing Question (aerocarjake)
     4. 09:24 AM - Re: Re: 3 Piece Wing Question (glenschweizer@yahoo.com)
     5. 01:28 PM - Gap seals again (Steven Dortch)
     6. 02:10 PM - Re: Gap seals again (Steven Dortch)
     7. 02:25 PM - Elevator stops (caldwrl)
     8. 03:08 PM - Re: Elevator stops (Chris)
     9. 03:21 PM - Re: Elevator stops (Gary Boothe)
    10. 04:31 PM - Re: Elevator stops (Steven Dortch)
    11. 07:33 PM - Re: 3 Piece Wing Question (Chris Rusch)
    12. 08:32 PM - Re: Re: 3 Piece Wing Question (jim hyde)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: 3 Piece Wing Question | 
      
      "The masses will certainly be disconcerted."
      
      I'm Ok with it. 
      
      
      If God is your co-pilot...switch seats. 
      Mike Perez 
      Karetaker Aero 
      STILL Building...
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 3 Piece Wing Question | 
      
      
      Wow! I wish you guys would have posted this a year ago......i agonized over getting
      that joint right and build in some dihedral. spend hours marking finite angles
      and filing the center section spars to keep the joint tight......next time
      the wings come off, i'm going to take some more off cause i would like a smidge
      more dihedral, but i wont be so precise.
      
      --------
      NX321LR
      Now test flying!!
      Mitsubishi Powered
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422949#422949
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 3 Piece Wing Question | 
      
      
      VERY timely...!!  I've been working on this joint - last weekend and this upcoming
      weekend. THANK YOU to everyone who provided input.
      
      --------
      Jake Schultz - curator,
      Newport Way Air Museum  (OK, it's just my home)
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422952#422952
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 3 Piece Wing Question | 
      
      
      Hey Chris 
        I noticed at the bottom of your post Mitsubishi powered. Please tell me about
      that!                       Glen
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      > On May 7, 2014, at 5:39 AM, "Chris Rusch" <rmdinfo@rmdbenders.com> wrote:
      > 
      > 
      > Wow! I wish you guys would have posted this a year ago......i agonized over getting
      that joint right and build in some dihedral. spend hours marking finite
      angles and filing the center section spars to keep the joint tight......next
      time the wings come off, i'm going to take some more off cause i would like a
      smidge more dihedral, but i wont be so precise.
      > 
      > --------
      > NX321LR
      > Now test flying!!
      > Mitsubishi Powered
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422949#422949
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      OK I am looking at doing aeleron and Empennage gap seals.
      
      The idea I like best is using flexible plastic strips like PTFE (Teflon) or
      HDPE (though it has poor UV resistance)
      
      -- 
       Blue Skies,
      Steve D
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Gap seals again | 
      
      OOPS hit send too early.
      
      I am looking at PTFE strips to do the gap seals with adhesive tape. the
      wings and tail are covered and will not be recovered.  There is historical
      evidence of 100MPH tape on the plane. Any special tips. (yes I have looked
      at the list archives and at some photos and searched the net.)
      
      
      On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>wrote:
      
      > OK I am looking at doing aeleron and Empennage gap seals.
      >
      > The idea I like best is using flexible plastic strips like PTFE (Teflon)
      > or HDPE (though it has poor UV resistance)
      >
      > --
      >  Blue Skies,
      > Steve D
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Blue Skies,
      Steve D
      
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      Happily I am at the covering/priming stage on the Air Camper.  Before covering
      the fuselage I am dealing with a few details and one is assuring I have control
      stops.  A search of the archives gave me plenty of ideas on the ailerons (thighs
      seem to work well) and ruder.  Not so much on the elevator.  So, I would
      like to hear from anyone regarding their solution.  I am thinking I will weld
      to the torque tube some configuration fore and at of the pilot's stick.  I just
      don't know what, exactly, and perhaps there is something simpler.  
      
      I am attaching a pic of my fuse. assy. as it appeared when I presented a program
      my EAA chapter a couple weeks ago.  Gettin' there!!
      
      --------
      Robert Caldwell
      Holly Lake Ranch, TX
      Hangar at Mineola-Wisener (3F9)
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422978#422978
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/april_meeting_2014_f_104.jpg
      
      
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      Simplest control stop is a metal bar with a slit in it.  One end attaches to
      the stick and one end attaches to the pulley under the seat. 
      
      http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Mike%20Cuy%20A-65%20Piet/images/elevator_sto
      p_strap_full_up.jpg
      
      http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Mike%20Cuy%20A-65%20Piet/images/control_stic
      k_assy_overall_view.jpg
      
      
      Chris T.
      Sacramento, Ca
      Westcoastpiet.com
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of caldwrl
      Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 2:26 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Elevator stops
      
      
      Happily I am at the covering/priming stage on the Air Camper.  Before
      covering the fuselage I am dealing with a few details and one is assuring I
      have control stops.  A search of the archives gave me plenty of ideas on the
      ailerons (thighs seem to work well) and ruder.  Not so much on the elevator.
      So, I would like to hear from anyone regarding their solution.  I am
      thinking I will weld to the torque tube some configuration fore and at of
      the pilot's stick.  I just don't know what, exactly, and perhaps there is
      something simpler.  
      
      I am attaching a pic of my fuse. assy. as it appeared when I presented a
      program my EAA chapter a couple weeks ago.  Gettin' there!!
      
      --------
      Robert Caldwell
      Holly Lake Ranch, TX
      Hangar at Mineola-Wisener (3F9)
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422978#422978
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/april_meeting_2014_f_104.jpg
      
      
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      That's good news, Robert! I hope to someday sit in that nice, comfy seat you
      built!
      
      You should get some good advice on stops, but, to be honest, I have no stops
      on any controls! The stick hits my knees before bottoming out...the rudder
      pedals only have so much travel...and the elevator the same. 
      
      Gary Boothe
      NX308MB
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of caldwrl
      Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 2:26 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Elevator stops
      
      
      Happily I am at the covering/priming stage on the Air Camper.  Before
      covering the fuselage I am dealing with a few details and one is assuring I
      have control stops.  A search of the archives gave me plenty of ideas on the
      ailerons (thighs seem to work well) and ruder.  Not so much on the elevator.
      So, I would like to hear from anyone regarding their solution.  I am
      thinking I will weld to the torque tube some configuration fore and at of
      the pilot's stick.  I just don't know what, exactly, and perhaps there is
      something simpler.  
      
      I am attaching a pic of my fuse. assy. as it appeared when I presented a
      program my EAA chapter a couple weeks ago.  Gettin' there!!
      
      --------
      Robert Caldwell
      Holly Lake Ranch, TX
      Hangar at Mineola-Wisener (3F9)
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422978#422978
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/april_meeting_2014_f_104.jpg
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Elevator stops | 
      
      I learn something almost every time I come to the list.
      
      
      On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
      
      >
      > That's good news, Robert! I hope to someday sit in that nice, comfy seat
      > you
      > built!
      >
      > You should get some good advice on stops, but, to be honest, I have no
      > stops
      > on any controls! The stick hits my knees before bottoming out...the rudder
      > pedals only have so much travel...and the elevator the same.
      >
      > Gary Boothe
      > NX308MB
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of caldwrl
      > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 2:26 PM
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Elevator stops
      >
      >
      > Happily I am at the covering/priming stage on the Air Camper.  Before
      > covering the fuselage I am dealing with a few details and one is assuring I
      > have control stops.  A search of the archives gave me plenty of ideas on
      > the
      > ailerons (thighs seem to work well) and ruder.  Not so much on the
      > elevator.
      > So, I would like to hear from anyone regarding their solution.  I am
      > thinking I will weld to the torque tube some configuration fore and at of
      > the pilot's stick.  I just don't know what, exactly, and perhaps there is
      > something simpler.
      >
      > I am attaching a pic of my fuse. assy. as it appeared when I presented a
      > program my EAA chapter a couple weeks ago.  Gettin' there!!
      >
      > --------
      > Robert Caldwell
      > Holly Lake Ranch, TX
      > Hangar at Mineola-Wisener (3F9)
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422978#422978
      >
      >
      > Attachments:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/april_meeting_2014_f_104.jpg
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Blue Skies,
      Steve D
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 3 Piece Wing Question | 
      
      
      
      glen wrote:
      > Hey Chris 
      >   I noticed at the bottom of your post Mitsubishi powered. Please tell me about
      that!                       Glen
      > 
      > Sent from my iPhone
      > 
      > 
      > >  On May 7, 2014, at 5:39 AM, "Chris Rusch"  wrote:
      > >  
      > >  
      > >  
      > >  Wow! I wish you guys would have posted this a year ago......i agonized over
      getting that joint right and build in some dihedral. spend hours marking finite
      angles and filing the center section spars to keep the joint tight......next
      time the wings come off, i'm going to take some more off cause i would like
      a smidge more dihedral, but i wont be so precise.
      > >  
      > >  --------
      > >  NX321LR
      > >  Now test flying!!
      > >  Mitsubishi Powered
      > >  
      > >  
      > >  
      > >  
      > >  Read this topic online here:
      > >  
      > >  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422949#422949
      > >  
      > >  
      > >  
      > >  Hi glen,
      > >  Just look up my profile on here and go thru my previous posts....it all in
      here somewhere
      > >  
      > >  
      > >  
      > >  
      > >  
      > > 
      > > 
      > 
      
      
      --------
      NX321LR
      Now test flying!!
      Mitsubishi Powered
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422984#422984
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 3 Piece Wing Question | 
      
      being precise when building a pietenpol is like putting a diamond in a pigs
       butt. I just build following the 43 13 1b and it will be just fine... =0A
      =0Ajim hyde=0AOn Wednesday, May 7, 2014 9:40 PM, Chris Rusch <rmdinfo@rmdbe
      " <rmdinfo@rmdbenders.com>=0A=0A=0Aglen wrote:=0A> Hey Chris =0A>-  I not
      iced at the bottom of your post Mitsubishi powered. Please tell me about th
      at!- - - - - - - - - - -  Glen=0A> =0A> Sent from my 
      iPhone=0A> =0A> =0A> >- On May 7, 2014, at 5:39 AM, "Chris Rusch"- wrot
      e:=0A> >- =0A> >- =0A> >- =0A> >- Wow! I wish you guys would have p
      osted this a year ago......i agonized over getting that joint right and bui
      ld in some dihedral. spend hours marking finite angles and filing the cente
      r section spars to keep the joint tight......next time the wings come off, 
      i'm going to take some more off cause i would like a smidge more dihedral, 
      but i wont be so precise.=0A> >- =0A> >- --------=0A> >- NX321LR=0A> 
      >- Now test flying!!=0A> >- Mitsubishi Powered=0A> >- =0A> >- =0A> 
      >- =0A> >- =0A> >- Read this topic online here:=0A> >- =0A> >- ht
      tp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422949#422949=0A> >- =0A> >
      - =0A> >- =0A> >- Hi glen,=0A> >- Just look up my profile on here a
      nd go thru my previous posts....it all in here somewhere=0A> >- =0A> >-
       =0A> >- =0A> >- =0A> >- =0A> > =0A> > =0A> =0A=0A=0A--------=0ANX321
      LR=0ANow test flying!!=0AMitsubishi Powered=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic o
      nline here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422984#42298
      =
      
 
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