---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 05/07/14: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:56 AM - Re: 3 Piece Wing Question (Michael Perez) 2. 05:39 AM - Re: 3 Piece Wing Question (Chris Rusch) 3. 07:29 AM - Re: 3 Piece Wing Question (aerocarjake) 4. 09:24 AM - Re: Re: 3 Piece Wing Question (glenschweizer@yahoo.com) 5. 01:28 PM - Gap seals again (Steven Dortch) 6. 02:10 PM - Re: Gap seals again (Steven Dortch) 7. 02:25 PM - Elevator stops (caldwrl) 8. 03:08 PM - Re: Elevator stops (Chris) 9. 03:21 PM - Re: Elevator stops (Gary Boothe) 10. 04:31 PM - Re: Elevator stops (Steven Dortch) 11. 07:33 PM - Re: 3 Piece Wing Question (Chris Rusch) 12. 08:32 PM - Re: Re: 3 Piece Wing Question (jim hyde) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:56:24 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 3 Piece Wing Question "The masses will certainly be disconcerted." I'm Ok with it. If God is your co-pilot...switch seats. Mike Perez Karetaker Aero STILL Building... ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:39:35 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 3 Piece Wing Question From: "Chris Rusch" Wow! I wish you guys would have posted this a year ago......i agonized over getting that joint right and build in some dihedral. spend hours marking finite angles and filing the center section spars to keep the joint tight......next time the wings come off, i'm going to take some more off cause i would like a smidge more dihedral, but i wont be so precise. -------- NX321LR Now test flying!! Mitsubishi Powered Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422949#422949 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:30 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 3 Piece Wing Question From: "aerocarjake" VERY timely...!! I've been working on this joint - last weekend and this upcoming weekend. THANK YOU to everyone who provided input. -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422952#422952 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing_joint_227.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:24:22 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 3 Piece Wing Question From: glenschweizer@yahoo.com Hey Chris I noticed at the bottom of your post Mitsubishi powered. Please tell me about that! Glen Sent from my iPhone > On May 7, 2014, at 5:39 AM, "Chris Rusch" wrote: > > > Wow! I wish you guys would have posted this a year ago......i agonized over getting that joint right and build in some dihedral. spend hours marking finite angles and filing the center section spars to keep the joint tight......next time the wings come off, i'm going to take some more off cause i would like a smidge more dihedral, but i wont be so precise. > > -------- > NX321LR > Now test flying!! > Mitsubishi Powered > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422949#422949 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:28:08 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gap seals again From: Steven Dortch OK I am looking at doing aeleron and Empennage gap seals. The idea I like best is using flexible plastic strips like PTFE (Teflon) or HDPE (though it has poor UV resistance) -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:10:37 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Gap seals again From: Steven Dortch OOPS hit send too early. I am looking at PTFE strips to do the gap seals with adhesive tape. the wings and tail are covered and will not be recovered. There is historical evidence of 100MPH tape on the plane. Any special tips. (yes I have looked at the list archives and at some photos and searched the net.) On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Steven Dortch wrote: > OK I am looking at doing aeleron and Empennage gap seals. > > The idea I like best is using flexible plastic strips like PTFE (Teflon) > or HDPE (though it has poor UV resistance) > > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > * > > > * > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:25:53 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Elevator stops From: "caldwrl" Happily I am at the covering/priming stage on the Air Camper. Before covering the fuselage I am dealing with a few details and one is assuring I have control stops. A search of the archives gave me plenty of ideas on the ailerons (thighs seem to work well) and ruder. Not so much on the elevator. So, I would like to hear from anyone regarding their solution. I am thinking I will weld to the torque tube some configuration fore and at of the pilot's stick. I just don't know what, exactly, and perhaps there is something simpler. I am attaching a pic of my fuse. assy. as it appeared when I presented a program my EAA chapter a couple weeks ago. Gettin' there!! -------- Robert Caldwell Holly Lake Ranch, TX Hangar at Mineola-Wisener (3F9) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422978#422978 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/april_meeting_2014_f_104.jpg ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:08:11 PM PST US From: "Chris" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Elevator stops Simplest control stop is a metal bar with a slit in it. One end attaches to the stick and one end attaches to the pulley under the seat. http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Mike%20Cuy%20A-65%20Piet/images/elevator_sto p_strap_full_up.jpg http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Mike%20Cuy%20A-65%20Piet/images/control_stic k_assy_overall_view.jpg Chris T. Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of caldwrl Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 2:26 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Elevator stops Happily I am at the covering/priming stage on the Air Camper. Before covering the fuselage I am dealing with a few details and one is assuring I have control stops. A search of the archives gave me plenty of ideas on the ailerons (thighs seem to work well) and ruder. Not so much on the elevator. So, I would like to hear from anyone regarding their solution. I am thinking I will weld to the torque tube some configuration fore and at of the pilot's stick. I just don't know what, exactly, and perhaps there is something simpler. I am attaching a pic of my fuse. assy. as it appeared when I presented a program my EAA chapter a couple weeks ago. Gettin' there!! -------- Robert Caldwell Holly Lake Ranch, TX Hangar at Mineola-Wisener (3F9) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422978#422978 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/april_meeting_2014_f_104.jpg ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:21:57 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Elevator stops That's good news, Robert! I hope to someday sit in that nice, comfy seat you built! You should get some good advice on stops, but, to be honest, I have no stops on any controls! The stick hits my knees before bottoming out...the rudder pedals only have so much travel...and the elevator the same. Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of caldwrl Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 2:26 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Elevator stops Happily I am at the covering/priming stage on the Air Camper. Before covering the fuselage I am dealing with a few details and one is assuring I have control stops. A search of the archives gave me plenty of ideas on the ailerons (thighs seem to work well) and ruder. Not so much on the elevator. So, I would like to hear from anyone regarding their solution. I am thinking I will weld to the torque tube some configuration fore and at of the pilot's stick. I just don't know what, exactly, and perhaps there is something simpler. I am attaching a pic of my fuse. assy. as it appeared when I presented a program my EAA chapter a couple weeks ago. Gettin' there!! -------- Robert Caldwell Holly Lake Ranch, TX Hangar at Mineola-Wisener (3F9) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422978#422978 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/april_meeting_2014_f_104.jpg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:31:28 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Elevator stops From: Steven Dortch I learn something almost every time I come to the list. On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: > > That's good news, Robert! I hope to someday sit in that nice, comfy seat > you > built! > > You should get some good advice on stops, but, to be honest, I have no > stops > on any controls! The stick hits my knees before bottoming out...the rudder > pedals only have so much travel...and the elevator the same. > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of caldwrl > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 2:26 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Elevator stops > > > Happily I am at the covering/priming stage on the Air Camper. Before > covering the fuselage I am dealing with a few details and one is assuring I > have control stops. A search of the archives gave me plenty of ideas on > the > ailerons (thighs seem to work well) and ruder. Not so much on the > elevator. > So, I would like to hear from anyone regarding their solution. I am > thinking I will weld to the torque tube some configuration fore and at of > the pilot's stick. I just don't know what, exactly, and perhaps there is > something simpler. > > I am attaching a pic of my fuse. assy. as it appeared when I presented a > program my EAA chapter a couple weeks ago. Gettin' there!! > > -------- > Robert Caldwell > Holly Lake Ranch, TX > Hangar at Mineola-Wisener (3F9) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422978#422978 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/april_meeting_2014_f_104.jpg > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:33:53 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 3 Piece Wing Question From: "Chris Rusch" glen wrote: > Hey Chris > I noticed at the bottom of your post Mitsubishi powered. Please tell me about that! Glen > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On May 7, 2014, at 5:39 AM, "Chris Rusch" wrote: > > > > > > > > Wow! I wish you guys would have posted this a year ago......i agonized over getting that joint right and build in some dihedral. spend hours marking finite angles and filing the center section spars to keep the joint tight......next time the wings come off, i'm going to take some more off cause i would like a smidge more dihedral, but i wont be so precise. > > > > -------- > > NX321LR > > Now test flying!! > > Mitsubishi Powered > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422949#422949 > > > > > > > > Hi glen, > > Just look up my profile on here and go thru my previous posts....it all in here somewhere > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- NX321LR Now test flying!! Mitsubishi Powered Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422984#422984 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:32:55 PM PST US From: jim hyde Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 3 Piece Wing Question being precise when building a pietenpol is like putting a diamond in a pigs butt. I just build following the 43 13 1b and it will be just fine... =0A =0Ajim hyde=0AOn Wednesday, May 7, 2014 9:40 PM, Chris Rusch =0A=0A=0Aglen wrote:=0A> Hey Chris =0A>- I not iced at the bottom of your post Mitsubishi powered. Please tell me about th at!- - - - - - - - - - - Glen=0A> =0A> Sent from my iPhone=0A> =0A> =0A> >- On May 7, 2014, at 5:39 AM, "Chris Rusch"- wrot e:=0A> >- =0A> >- =0A> >- =0A> >- Wow! 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