---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 05/09/14: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:46 AM - Re: Re: elevator stops and smoke oil !!! (Steven Dortch) 2. 06:28 AM - Re: Steel tube long fuselage (Vasek) 3. 07:23 AM - Went Flying Last night (AircamperN11MS) 4. 08:27 AM - Re: Went Flying Last night (Steven Dortch) 5. 09:05 AM - Re: Went Flying Last night (taildrags) 6. 09:54 AM - Re: Went Flying Last night (Chris Rusch) 7. 10:18 AM - Re: Went Flying Last night (AircamperN11MS) 8. 11:32 AM - Re: Steel tube long fuselage (nightmare) 9. 12:01 PM - Re: Went Flying Last night (Gary Boothe) 10. 12:15 PM - Re: Went Flying Last night (AircamperN11MS) 11. 06:42 PM - Get'n ready for Brodhead (danhelsper@aol.com) 12. 11:28 PM - Re: Get'n ready for Brodhead (biplan53) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:46:31 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: elevator stops and smoke oil !!! From: Steven Dortch Y'all might be careful about burning all that food grade oil. WW I pilots flying rotary had absolutley no problems with constipation. The crank is attached to the airframe and the case and jugs are attached to the prop and spin with a huge gyro effect. The oiling system was a castor bean oil total loss system. It slung the oil out of the engine as it spun, with the pilot breathing/tasting oil the whole time he flew. Ciel bleu Steve D On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 10:45 PM, taildrags wrote: > > Gardiner; > > I think many of the other smokers are burning baby oil, and I agree that > the smoke from it tends to be a little whiter and thinner. I did some > research on the Canopus oil that Mikee (and aerobatic performers) like to > use. It's also used as a form release agent for concrete forms, obviously > is not harmful to the environment since it washes off the form boards onto > the ground, and is a food-grade mineral oil. Shell has a comparable > product. > > Some people have mentioned using spent or dirty automatic transmission > fluid (ATF), and it will indeed make nice smoke, but it's not as innocuous > as the mineral oil because you're burning a hydrocarbon, but not burning it > completely. I wouldn't do it. > > The Stearman chat site has a discussion about this subject and one guy > said he found a reasonable alternative... soybean cooking oil from Costco. > $20 for 5 gallons. Food grade, good smoke, didn't make a mess on the > airplane, but he said that smelling it made him want to go eat at > McDonald's. Worth pursuing. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423037#423037 > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:28:26 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel tube long fuselage From: "Vasek" Hello, I am making a GN-1 model which has longer fuselage than the original Pietenpol, it has longer nose designed for lighter engines. If that's what you are asking for? Vasek -------- My production of WW1 propellers, trophies and constructions: Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423056#423056 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:32 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Went Flying Last night From: "AircamperN11MS" Hi Pieter's, I went out to the airport last night to perform a weighing for a friends dragster. I happened to get there a little bit early and notice that the plane was begging to be flown since it has been ground bound for the last two weeks or so. I caved and took the poor thing out for some pattern work. I had a great time. We had a slight breeze, 26 gusting to 30 knots about 20 degrees off the runway heading. It was fun, I could climb and descend nearly vertical and only needed about 20 to 30 feet for the take off run. All my landing were wheel landings because it was gusty. I don't care to 3pt it when it gets gusty. I flew 4 circuits and made 4 great landings, I think my blood pressure even went down a few notches. For me it is great therapy. Keep on building. Flying is great therapy and will save you a lot of visits to the physiologist. I have another therapy session scheduled for Saturday, I hope you do too. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423059#423059 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_20140508_170021_134.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:42 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Went Flying Last night From: Steven Dortch "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." Antoine de Saint-Exupery Ciel Bleu Steve D On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 9:05 AM, AircamperN11MS wrote: > Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> > > Hi Pieter's, > > I went out to the airport last night to perform a weighing for a friends > dragster. I happened to get there a little bit early and notice that the > plane was begging to be flown since it has been ground bound for the last > two weeks or so. I caved and took the poor thing out for some pattern > work. I had a great time. We had a slight breeze, 26 gusting to 30 knots > about 20 degrees off the runway heading. It was fun, I could climb and > descend nearly vertical and only needed about 20 to 30 feet for the take > off run. All my landing were wheel landings because it was gusty. I don't > care to 3pt it when it gets gusty. I flew 4 circuits and made 4 great > landings, I think my blood pressure even went down a few notches. For me > it is great therapy. > > Keep on building. Flying is great therapy and will save you a lot of > visits to the physiologist. I have another therapy session scheduled for > Saturday, I hope you do too. > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423059#423059 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_20140508_170021_134.jpg > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:05:17 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Went Flying Last night From: "taildrags" Scott; sounds like fun, although winds were a little higher than I like to challenge. By the way, where are the registration markings on your airplane? They aren't visible in the photo. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423064#423064 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:54:33 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Went Flying Last night From: "Chris Rusch" Bitchin rail job!! -------- NX321LR Now test flying!! Mitsubishi Powered Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423072#423072 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:18:47 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Went Flying Last night From: "AircamperN11MS" Oscar, They are on the rudder. With the plane in the shade they are hard to see. The fuselage is a forest green and the numbers are black vinyl. It replicates the paint scheme of the era. Try and find that in the FAR's. Haven't been busted on it yet. Maybe I'm just lucky. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423074#423074 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:32:11 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel tube long fuselage From: "nightmare" im away from my plans at this moment , but I am using the short fuselage ( maybe two inches longer?) and made some changes so that I have as much room in the cockpits as the long fuselage. shorter fuselage will require a little less wing tilt back to keep within cg. also using corvair. -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423078#423078 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:01:31 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Went Flying Last night 30 kts!? Your plane must be hiding the wheel barrow that you use to haul your b_lls around... Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AircamperN11MS Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 7:06 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Went Flying Last night --> Hi Pieter's, I went out to the airport last night to perform a weighing for a friends dragster. I happened to get there a little bit early and notice that the plane was begging to be flown since it has been ground bound for the last two weeks or so. I caved and took the poor thing out for some pattern work. I had a great time. We had a slight breeze, 26 gusting to 30 knots about 20 degrees off the runway heading. It was fun, I could climb and descend nearly vertical and only needed about 20 to 30 feet for the take off run. All my landing were wheel landings because it was gusty. I don't care to 3pt it when it gets gusty. I flew 4 circuits and made 4 great landings, I think my blood pressure even went down a few notches. For me it is great therapy. Keep on building. Flying is great therapy and will save you a lot of visits to the physiologist. I have another therapy session scheduled for Saturday, I hope you do too. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423059#423059 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_20140508_170021_134.jpg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:15:41 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Went Flying Last night From: "AircamperN11MS" Gary, You get use to it where I live or you just don't fly. Truthfully I have to put it away when it blows 35 KTS. At 35 I need wing walkers to taxi. Believe it or not, -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423084#423084 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:42:34 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Get'n ready for Brodhead From: danhelsper@aol.com As the time approaches, I thought I would post one idea of how to pack. Thi s set-up worked well last year. I have external straps on the top for a cam ping chair to be attached, but the chairs I found are a few inches too long to fit. A kid's chair would work, but I could not withstand the ribbing (a nd Lord-knows-what snide comments about munchkins). I'll keep looking. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:28:47 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Get'n ready for Brodhead From: "biplan53" That veneer you used on the instrument panel is beautiful!! -------- Building steel fuselage aircamper. 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