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1. 12:21 AM - Re: Re: progress on Scout (Peter Johnson)
2. 06:25 AM - Re: progress on Scout (AircamperN11MS)
3. 08:26 AM - Re: progress on Scout (taildrags)
4. 01:07 PM - Frank Metcalfe's outstanding Corvair Big Piet video (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
5. 02:29 PM - Re: Frank Metcalfe's outstanding Corvair Big Piet video (Gary Boothe)
6. 02:41 PM - Re: Frank Metcalfe's outstanding Corvair Big Piet video (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
7. 03:02 PM - Re: Frank Metcalfe's outstanding Corvair Big Piet video (Gary Boothe)
8. 11:48 PM - Re: Re: progress on Scout (Peter Johnson)
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| Subject: | Re: progress on Scout |
Oscar,
Do you have a ground plane on the antenna?
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
http://repiet.cpc-world.com
On 13/05/2014 1:54 pm, "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Jerry; I know that the antenna lead-in and connection are less than
>perfect, but they appeared to be good enough to at least get a signal out
>when I'm less than a quarter mile from the tower! I could easily shorten
>the amount of coax that I have from the antenna to the BNC bulkhead
>feedthrough fitting, and of course just having that fitting in the line
>adds signal loss. Then there is the connection at the base of the
>antenna... the braid shield was pulled away from the inner core farther
>than it could have been, so there is probably some signal radiating
>there. In short, it could be better but I'm inclined not to bother with
>it right now since the tower reads me "fife by fife" with the rubber
>ducky. For all I know, the fixed antenna has a 3:1 SWR, is connected
>with the wrong impedance cable, and is going to smoke my IC-A23 ;o)
>
>I have never even looked closely to see what the coax is... it may not
>even be RG-58 and it's sure not RG-400. If I get the bug to make the
>antenna work right one of these days, it won't be a big deal to rework
>the whole thing and I could do it in a few hours. The whip itself is a
>conventional bent-rod 1/4-wave COM antenna that came off of a Cessna (I
>believe).
>
>--------
>Oscar Zuniga
>Medford, OR
>Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
>A75 power
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423243#423243
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: progress on Scout |
Oscar,
Glad to hear the flight went well. Sounds like you have reached the end of the
tunnel although you haven't exited it yet. I guess that comes when you find
a new caretaker for scout. I'm with you on the antenna issue. As long as you
can get in and out of the field then don't worry anymore about it. The only
thing I can offer you and anyone else flying out of a controlled field is to get
the tower's phone number put into your cell phone. There have been many times
I have landed at a local dirt strip to call the tower and tell them to expect
me in 10 minutes and will be landing with no radio due to dead batteries.
The controllers really appreciate the notice. Enjoy your time flying scout.
BTW, Thanks for the pic. It looks great and see you in a few weeks,
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423250#423250
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| Subject: | Re: progress on Scout |
Peter: yes, there is a ground plane. There is a piece of aluminum sheet spanning
across the lower longerons and filling maybe one framing bay. The COM and
ELT antennae share the ground plane, which is less than ideal, and I've tried
to separate them as much as possible but it's a small space. So I know that the
arrangement is severely compromised... the ground plane is too small, the COM
antenna isn't centered on the ground plane, and there are control cables passing
quite close to the antenna (elevator cables, rudder cables, tailwheel steering
cables). So probably "three strikes and I'm out" as far as that setup
being able to put out a good signal.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423252#423252
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| Subject: | Frank Metcalfe's outstanding Corvair Big Piet video |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08C4ipsyqy8
Infidels,
I ran across this most outstanding video that Frank Metcalfe took of himsel
f flying his beautiful Corvair-powered Pietenpol.
Thanks Larry Vetter for posting this link to the Pietenpol Facebook page.
Frank doesn't dub music over the sweet sounds of his engine, prop, and air
flowing over the struts and wings which is especially
appealing to me as to me there is no music that should take precedence over
the sounds of an airplane in flight but some videos
like Gary Boothe's have a great mix of airplane engine noises and great sel
ections of music.
I don't know Frank Metcalfe but I admire him greatly and all the other guys
who rebuilt their Piets after the storm at the Florida Sun-N-Fun
fly in a few years ago.
Thank you very kindly Barry Davis for letting me know which one of your Big
Piet guys is in that video and even more for sharing that Frank
is one of those guys who rebuilt after SNF to fly again. Amazing. Rebui
lding must be SO much more difficult than just building.
>From Barry Davis below:
PS this is Frank still smiling even though that is his red tail sticking up
on top of the pile. See the prop though his wing? When the Sun n Fun crew
moved it, they just drug the prop thru the wing instead of just picking it
up and as a result, destroyed it.
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From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC] [mailto:michael.d.c
uy@nasa.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 3:31 PM
Subject: what a great video----can you help Barry?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08C4ipsyqy8
Hi Barry!
One of your Big Piet guys posted this great video of his Piet on the Pieten
pol Facebook page and I'd like to know which builder it is.
He did a fantastic job on the video and didn't dub in music over the beauti
ful sounds of the engine and prop----thank goodness!
If you can help I'd appreciate any info Barry!
Thank you!
Michael Cuy
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| Subject: | Frank Metcalfe's outstanding Corvair Big Piet video |
I made this video just for Mike, back in January:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pFAzSHDuY8 . Don't let the fancy headset
thing fool you.I can't hear a friggin' thing!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 1:05 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Frank Metcalfe's outstanding Corvair Big Piet video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08C4ipsyqy8
Infidels,
I ran across this most outstanding video that Frank Metcalfe took of himself
flying his beautiful Corvair-powered Pietenpol.
Thanks Larry Vetter for posting this link to the Pietenpol Facebook page.
Frank doesn't dub music over the sweet sounds of his engine, prop, and air
flowing over the struts and wings which is especially
appealing to me as to me there is no music that should take precedence over
the sounds of an airplane in flight but some videos
like Gary Boothe's have a great mix of airplane engine noises and great
selections of music.
I don't know Frank Metcalfe but I admire him greatly and all the other guys
who rebuilt their Piets after the storm at the Florida Sun-N-Fun
fly in a few years ago.
Thank you very kindly Barry Davis for letting me know which one of your Big
Piet guys is in that video and even more for sharing that Frank
is one of those guys who rebuilt after SNF to fly again. Amazing.
Rebuilding must be SO much more difficult than just building.
>From Barry Davis below:
PS this is Frank still smiling even though that is his red tail sticking up
on top of the pile. See the prop though his wing? When the Sun n Fun crew
moved it, they just drug the prop thru the wing instead of just picking it
up and as a result, destroyed it.
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]
[mailto:michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 3:31 PM
Subject: what a great video----can you help Barry?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08C4ipsyqy8
Hi Barry!
One of your Big Piet guys posted this great video of his Piet on the
Pietenpol Facebook page and I'd like to know which builder it is.
He did a fantastic job on the video and didn't dub in music over the
beautiful sounds of the engine and prop----thank goodness!
If you can help I'd appreciate any info Barry!
Thank you!
Michael Cuy
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| Subject: | Frank Metcalfe's outstanding Corvair Big Piet video |
I made this video just for Mike, back in January: https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=5pFAzSHDuY8 . Don't let the fancy headset thing fool you...I can'
t hear a friggin' thing!
That is just a FANTASTIC video Gary and your engine sounds a little like a
P-51 engine. Frank's did too. They don't sound that way to me when I've
heard them at Brodhead but
the videotape makes them sound really cool in flight.
You've done some really nice videos too (perhaps that same one Gary) with a
great selection of music where you fade in and out but don't completely cu
t out the airplane engine
sounds which is really cool.
Imagine watching Jimmy Stewart in Strategic Air Command without hearing the
drone of those EIGHT awesome radial engines in the background. It would
be like watching a John
Wayne movie without hearing any gunshots.
Mike C.
Ohio
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| Subject: | Frank Metcalfe's outstanding Corvair Big Piet video |
Sorta like watching "Airplane!" and listening to those awesome radial
engines.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Frank Metcalfe's outstanding Corvair Big Piet
video
I made this video just for Mike, back in January:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pFAzSHDuY8 . Don't let the fancy headset
thing fool you.I can't hear a friggin' thing!
That is just a FANTASTIC video Gary and your engine sounds a little like a
P-51 engine. Frank's did too. They don't sound that way to me when I've
heard them at Brodhead but
the videotape makes them sound really cool in flight.
You've done some really nice videos too (perhaps that same one Gary) with a
great selection of music where you fade in and out but don't completely cut
out the airplane engine
sounds which is really cool.
Imagine watching Jimmy Stewart in Strategic Air Command without hearing the
drone of those EIGHT awesome radial engines in the background. It would be
like watching a John
Wayne movie without hearing any gunshots.
Mike C.
Ohio
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| Subject: | Re: progress on Scout |
Thanks Oscar, sounds like the "Rubber Duckie is going to be the way to go.
Cheers
Peter
On 14/05/2014 1:25 am, "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Peter: yes, there is a ground plane. There is a piece of aluminum sheet
>spanning across the lower longerons and filling maybe one framing bay.
>The COM and ELT antennae share the ground plane, which is less than
>ideal, and I've tried to separate them as much as possible but it's a
>small space. So I know that the arrangement is severely compromised...
>the ground plane is too small, the COM antenna isn't centered on the
>ground plane, and there are control cables passing quite close to the
>antenna (elevator cables, rudder cables, tailwheel steering cables). So
>probably "three strikes and I'm out" as far as that setup being able to
>put out a good signal.
>
>--------
>Oscar Zuniga
>Medford, OR
>Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
>A75 power
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423252#423252
>
>
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