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1. 05:30 AM - Re: Pietenpol hangar visit during AirVenture 2014. (Barry Davis)
2. 06:38 AM - Re: Pietenpol hangar visit during AirVenture 2014. (tools)
3. 07:17 AM - Re: Re: Pietenpol hangar visit during AirVenture 2014. (Barry Davis)
4. 07:44 AM - Re: Re: Pietenpol hangar visit during AirVenture 2014. (Boatright, Jeffrey)
5. 03:08 PM - Pietenpol hangar visit during AirVenture 2014 (Oscar Zuniga)
6. 08:12 PM - Re: Vi Kapler hinges (taildrags)
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| Subject: | Pietenpol hangar visit during AirVenture 2014. |
Mike
Good to see you have this worked out for AirVenture 2014. I talked to Dan M.
briefly a couple of weeks ago when I was up for the BOD meeting, as Dan and
I serve on the Museum Committee. I am really glad to see some activity in
the Pietenpol hangar as this is a very unutilized asset we have. We need a
way to better tell our Pietenpol history and what could be better than
hands-on with enthusiastic builders.
If someone in the group could layout several ( maybe on 20"x30") posters
with the history of the Piet, Bernard, BPA news, Current flying pics, etc. I
could print and mount them up and ship them to the firehouse before the
event. This could add a lot to the Piet hangar and would liven things up a
bit.
And speaking of the firehouse, I really enjoyed our visit. You're living the
dream!
Thanks
Barry Davis NX973BP
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tools
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 5:07 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol hangar visit during AirVenture 2014.
Hey folks,
I finally got in touch with the guy who runs Kidventure, and therefore sort
of "owns" the Pietenpol hangar during the convention.
It was my original suggestion that we visit after Kidventure hours, ends for
the day around 3 pm, but he suggested we do it DURING Kidventure and and a
lot of good reasons why. However, he supports the idea no matter what we
decide.
I'm reposting his email to me with his ideas, so we can as a group decide
what we want to do. I do like his idea of using this idea to generate some
interest among kids for the Piet.
Who is working on a mass fly in? Andy Ovans was going to check with the guy
in charge of Vintage parking today and see if they had room for us, or did
we want to go to homebuilders? He's the guy in charge of the Pavillion, so
has quick and easy access to all the guys in charge of whatever areas and
hopefully we can get quick answers from them if it hasn't already been
hammered out.
Cheers,
Tools
==
In reverse order (cut and paste from Yahoo's new email whatever system) is
my original email to Dan, his reply and my follow up. Chime in and let me
know what ya'll think, and I'll set it all up with Dan and Jim.
==
Hey Dan!
WOW, GREAT suggestions and that's what we'll do. I can coordinate a key
through Jim (work with him every week, so no worries there) and will
definitely give you a heads on on when everyone is thinking of coming.
I'll repost your email to the bulletin board and see if we can't generate
some formal volunteer time out of them. THANKS for the offer of letting
them join in on the fun, I'm planning on flying control line again as it is.
Thanks for the quick reply, I'll be in touch!
Mike
On Friday, May 16, 2014 3:56 PM, "dmajka@comcast.net" wrote:
Hi Mike,
I think this is a wonderful idea to give the builders the feel for the
history behind the airplane.
Couple of suggestions / offers.
I have NO issue with your group coming in any day but I would suggest you do
it while KidVenture is open for a few reasons. One is that your presence
there might generate interest by KidVenture visitors to your builder's
group. Two is that you will not interfere with KidVenture in anyway by being
in that hangar and by doing it when the museum buses are in full operation
it might be easier for your group to get to Pioneer. If they do drive they
will need to park in the museum lot and NOT in the Air Academy parking lot.
Three is that we have drinks and food in the Vette for our volunteers and
you are more than welcome to share what we have. Four is that maybe some of
your people would like to hang around the hangar on other days to past on
the history to KidVenture guests. Your crew could really bring it to life.
Any volunteers who would want to do this would be welcome to sign up as
official KidVenture volunteers and receive whatever perks their hours rate.
Bottom line is please bring your group whenever it is best for you, just
give me a heads up because I don't have the key to that hangar and would
need to make sure it is open.
See you soon,
Dan
From: "mike danford"
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 8:35:45 AM
Subject: Pioneer field field trip during convention
Dear Dan,
I'm Mike Danford, we've met a few times around campus (so to speak) but most
memorably was at Paul's room with Tracy N and Bill B shortly before
convention last year.
I volunteer at Weeks some, Pioneer field flying young eagles, and during
convention with the control line folks at Kidventure.
I'm also a Pietenpol enthusiast, I own and fly one that I bought (currently
teaching my son to fly it). I think we may get 5 to 10 Piets to fly to
convention together this year for the 85th anniversary of the Pietenpol. If
we can manage that, there'll be another confirmed 10 to 15 guys driving in
most likely. This is VERY informal.
However, a common thread to everyone's thinking is conjuring up something to
do together, is the Pietenpol hangar. Folks (most are currently building)
are EXTREMELY interested in a "behind the ropes" view of the planes in his
hangar, both for nostalgia and the educational value to someone who's
currently building. Essentially a monster picture taking effort to help
document "how Bernie did it" for their records as they build.
I offered to help set up such a field trip and went to Jim Casper (whom I
work for as a Young Eagles pilot volunteer). He said that control of the
field is relinquished to you during the convention so that you'd likely be
the governing authority!
I think it would be best to go visit the hangar AFTER Kidventure is done for
the day, like 4 or 5 in the after noon. All we would need is someone to let
us in, I can lock up behind us (pretty sure it's just pad locked). It would
be a thirty minute to an hour sort of thing accompanied by a group photo for
the website we communicate through. No dismantling of planes or anything
like that. I would be more than willing to officially offer being the EAA's
official chaperon to make sure nothing is taken or hurt, if I'm in a
position to do so.
Thanks for the consideration, let me know what you think! By the way, don't
let the phone number trick you, I'm now living full time in Oshkosh, in the
old firehouse near the Dockside tavern, right behind the Brooklyn bar.
Thanks!
Mike Danford
n0kkj@yahoo.com
423 580 1383
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol hangar visit during AirVenture 2014. |
All I did was to make sure we could visit and get a pic sort of thing. It was
TOTALLY Dan's idea maybe "man" the hangar and do something along those lines.
I hope there's some interest because it does seem like a good idea. While the
RV's may be the most prevalent aspect of home building, the Piet really is the
genesis.
I agree that the asset is underutilized.
What sort of format do you need stuff submitted to make these posters? My daughter
is an art director, she could organize pics and stuff into whatever electronic
format you need to print from perhaps. And if someone could even hand draw
ANY sort of guidance for more informational posters, she could zap it into
whatever to print from as well.
There are a couple poster like info boards in the hangar, but they're OLD. I'll
be at Pioneer tomorrow and can check them all out and maybe get some ideas.
So who's going to airventure after brodhead?
Anyone working on a group fly in?
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol hangar visit during AirVenture 2014. |
.ai, .cdr, .eps files would work. I can print up to 54" wide x ?? long, but
shipping becomes a problem if it is mounted on a rigid board. Up to 24"x36"
boards ships cheaply.
Barry
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tools
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2014 9:38 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol hangar visit during AirVenture 2014.
All I did was to make sure we could visit and get a pic sort of thing. It
was TOTALLY Dan's idea maybe "man" the hangar and do something along those
lines.
I hope there's some interest because it does seem like a good idea. While
the RV's may be the most prevalent aspect of home building, the Piet really
is the genesis.
I agree that the asset is underutilized.
What sort of format do you need stuff submitted to make these posters? My
daughter is an art director, she could organize pics and stuff into whatever
electronic format you need to print from perhaps. And if someone could even
hand draw ANY sort of guidance for more informational posters, she could zap
it into whatever to print from as well.
There are a couple poster like info boards in the hangar, but they're OLD.
I'll be at Pioneer tomorrow and can check them all out and maybe get some
ideas.
So who's going to airventure after brodhead?
Anyone working on a group fly in?
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol hangar visit during AirVenture 2014. |
If Im back from business travel in time, I plan to fly up to C37 and OSH.
If I make it, I will help man the Pietenpol hangar!
--
Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVO
Professor of Ophthalmology
Emory University School of Medicine
On 5/17/14, 9:38 AM, "tools" <n0kkj@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>All I did was to make sure we could visit and get a pic sort of thing.
>It was TOTALLY Dan's idea maybe "man" the hangar and do something along
>those lines.
>
>I hope there's some interest because it does seem like a good idea.
>While the RV's may be the most prevalent aspect of home building, the
>Piet really is the genesis.
>
>I agree that the asset is underutilized.
>
>What sort of format do you need stuff submitted to make these posters?
>My daughter is an art director, she could organize pics and stuff into
>whatever electronic format you need to print from perhaps. And if
>someone could even hand draw ANY sort of guidance for more informational
>posters, she could zap it into whatever to print from as well.
>
>There are a couple poster like info boards in the hangar, but they're
>OLD. I'll be at Pioneer tomorrow and can check them all out and maybe
>get some ideas.
>
>So who's going to airventure after brodhead?
>
>Anyone working on a group fly in?
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423376#423376
>
>
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| Subject: | Pietenpol hangar visit during AirVenture 2014 |
Tools=2C et al-
If you or any other Piet group is planning to assemble a set of tail feathe
rs at the convention or at a forum or workshop and you think it would be us
eful to include a set of Kapler hinges in the assembly and fitting=2C I'd b
e delighted to contribute a set.
DISCLAIMER: the tail surface hinges that I am offering are NOT FAA PMA/STC
d parts=2C and are offered for recreational=2C educational=2C and experimen
tal use only. I make no claim as to their suitability for anything=2C not
even as fishing weights=2C and they are to be used at your own risk only.
The fact that aircraft have been successfully built and flown using these h
inges for at least a half-century means nothing except that you stand a dec
ent chance of doing the same... but there is no guarantee=2C warranty=2C or
any other claim made regarding these parts.
Oscar Zuniga
Medford=2C OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" (flying with Kapler hinges)
A75 power=2C Culver prop
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| Subject: | Re: Vi Kapler hinges |
Today's mail brought me something interesting from Vi. He sent me a small drilling
jig, a piece of brass tubing, and an explanation that after 750-1000 hours
there may be enough wear in the hinges to justify a rework. The drill jig is
used to drill the hinge pivot holes out and then some pieces of brass tubing
are pressed in as bushings to restore the tight fit between the hinges and the
pivot pin.
750-1000 hours. This is more flight time than I have in my logbook, and I've been
flying since the 1970s. Vi and many of the "old timers" are not from the
throw-away-and-replace generation, that's for sure.
Bottom line, and to continue in Vi's footsteps as much as I can, I'm offering to
re-bush any hinges that are out there, if any builder/pilot feels like there
is excessive wear or play in their hinges. I realize that it's not a trivial
exercise to remove and reinstall the hinges, but if anyone wants to do that and
have theirs reworked, I'll do it at no charge except for postage. Send your
hinges to-
Oscar Zuniga
4118 Hemlock Dr.
Medford, OR 97504
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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