Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sat 06/14/14


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 09:51 AM - ceconite (Steven Dortch)
     2. 10:46 AM - Re: ceconite (Ben Charvet)
     3. 10:55 AM - flying as a group (Oscar Zuniga)
     4. 11:30 AM - Re: flying as a group (dog67@aol.com)
     5. 12:18 PM - Pitot (Steven Dortch)
     6. 12:27 PM - Re: Pitot (tools)
     7. 12:48 PM - scuff damage (Steven Dortch)
     8. 07:47 PM - Re: flying as a group (taildrags)
     9. 08:00 PM - Re: Pitot (taildrags)
    10. 08:03 PM - Re: scuff damage (taildrags)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:51:20 AM PST US
    Subject: ceconite
    From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
    what is the concensus on the 1.8oz, ceconite for tail surface? -- Blue Skies, Steve D


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    Time: 10:46:23 AM PST US
    From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: ceconite
    Thats what I used for the entire airplane Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com> wr ote: > > what is the concensus on the 1.8oz, ceconite for tail surface? > > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 10:55:14 AM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: flying as a group
    Pardon my ignorance here since I never fly formation=2C but when a group en ters a towered field only one of the pilots is communicating and the others in the formation or group follow their prescribed and pre-arranged sequenc e=2C right? So does that mean that if transponder is required=2C only one of the aircraft in the group would be required to have one? Oscar Zuniga Medford=2C OR


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    Time: 11:30:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: flying as a group
    From: dog67@aol.com
    Normally only the lead aircraft has their transponder on, everyone else on standby. Otherwise ATC gets alerts for the planes being too close. So, if you had no transponder, you couldn't be lead - but otherwise I don't see a problem. Although if you were within the Mode C veil, I wouldn't advertis e that you don't have a transponder at all. My 2 cents Cheers Jon Apfelbaum -----Original Message----- From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> Sent: Sat, Jun 14, 2014 11:55 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: flying as a group Pardon my ignorance here since I never fly formation, but when a group ente rs a towered field only one of the pilots is communicating and the others i n the formation or group follow their prescribed and pre-arranged sequence, right? So does that mean that if transponder is required, only one of the aircraft in the group would be required to have one? Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR


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    Time: 12:18:54 PM PST US
    Subject: Pitot
    From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
    I have the opportunity to place my Pitot system inside the Wing.Previosly it ran down the side and up the strut. Can I use flexible vinyl tube, or is it better to use the old metal tube provided? -- Blue Skies, Steve D


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    Time: 12:27:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Pitot
    From: "tools" <n0kkj@yahoo.com>
    I've got flexible tube and it works fine. My only recommendation would be to make the pitot tube replaceable through an inspection hole. Mine was, but just barely. Using a 1/4" hex head instead of a #8 phillips would have saved HOURS! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424834#424834


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    Time: 12:48:46 PM PST US
    Subject: scuff damage
    From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
    On the top of my horizontal stabilizer it got scuffed on one edge of the top. It did not tear the ceconite fabric glued to the wood but it is scratched and the paint is scratched away. How should I treat the fabric? just paint it? or do something to prepare it before painting? -- Blue Skies, Steve D


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    Time: 07:47:00 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: flying as a group
    From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Kinda what I thought. So with some planning, a group could fly with one of the airplanes having xpdr and the tag-a-longs should be OK. In fact, the guy with xpdr could "share expenses" by collecting beer money for escorting "negative xpdr" compadres in and out of the verboten airspace ;o) -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424849#424849


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    Time: 08:00:22 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Pitot
    From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Steve; the ram air tubing on Scout, which is run inside the wing from the pitot location on the jury strut, looks to be standard "aquarium hose" clear vinyl. Unless I ran the math wrong, stagnation air pressure at Vne of 95 MPH is going to be less than 1/4 psi, so it's not like the tubing is going to be under a lot of pressure. That said, you can see that the ASI depends on measuring very small differences in pressure, so the connections should be reasonably tight or you'll have errors in the ASI readout. On my airplane, Corky slid the vinyl tubing over the ends of the metal pitot and static tubes and then secured them with safety wire snugged up to clamp the plastic tubing onto the metallic tubing. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424851#424851


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    Time: 08:03:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: scuff damage
    From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Steve; my opinion only. If you can see that the fabric has not worn through, all you should need to do is clean it up and then build it back up as recommended for the Ceconite system. At least put the silver or UV blocker on the area before touching up the color coat. If the fabric weave is not intact, apply a fabric patch. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424852#424852




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