---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 06/14/14: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:51 AM - ceconite (Steven Dortch) 2. 10:46 AM - Re: ceconite (Ben Charvet) 3. 10:55 AM - flying as a group (Oscar Zuniga) 4. 11:30 AM - Re: flying as a group (dog67@aol.com) 5. 12:18 PM - Pitot (Steven Dortch) 6. 12:27 PM - Re: Pitot (tools) 7. 12:48 PM - scuff damage (Steven Dortch) 8. 07:47 PM - Re: flying as a group (taildrags) 9. 08:00 PM - Re: Pitot (taildrags) 10. 08:03 PM - Re: scuff damage (taildrags) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:51:20 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: ceconite From: Steven Dortch what is the concensus on the 1.8oz, ceconite for tail surface? -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:46:23 AM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ceconite Thats what I used for the entire airplane Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Steven Dortch wr ote: > > what is the concensus on the 1.8oz, ceconite for tail surface? > > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:55:14 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: flying as a group Pardon my ignorance here since I never fly formation=2C but when a group en ters a towered field only one of the pilots is communicating and the others in the formation or group follow their prescribed and pre-arranged sequenc e=2C right? So does that mean that if transponder is required=2C only one of the aircraft in the group would be required to have one? Oscar Zuniga Medford=2C OR ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:30:12 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying as a group From: dog67@aol.com Normally only the lead aircraft has their transponder on, everyone else on standby. Otherwise ATC gets alerts for the planes being too close. So, if you had no transponder, you couldn't be lead - but otherwise I don't see a problem. Although if you were within the Mode C veil, I wouldn't advertis e that you don't have a transponder at all. My 2 cents Cheers Jon Apfelbaum -----Original Message----- From: Oscar Zuniga Sent: Sat, Jun 14, 2014 11:55 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: flying as a group Pardon my ignorance here since I never fly formation, but when a group ente rs a towered field only one of the pilots is communicating and the others i n the formation or group follow their prescribed and pre-arranged sequence, right? So does that mean that if transponder is required, only one of the aircraft in the group would be required to have one? Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:18:54 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pitot From: Steven Dortch I have the opportunity to place my Pitot system inside the Wing.Previosly it ran down the side and up the strut. Can I use flexible vinyl tube, or is it better to use the old metal tube provided? -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:27:12 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pitot From: "tools" I've got flexible tube and it works fine. My only recommendation would be to make the pitot tube replaceable through an inspection hole. Mine was, but just barely. Using a 1/4" hex head instead of a #8 phillips would have saved HOURS! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424834#424834 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:48:46 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: scuff damage From: Steven Dortch On the top of my horizontal stabilizer it got scuffed on one edge of the top. It did not tear the ceconite fabric glued to the wood but it is scratched and the paint is scratched away. How should I treat the fabric? just paint it? or do something to prepare it before painting? -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:47:00 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: flying as a group From: "taildrags" Kinda what I thought. So with some planning, a group could fly with one of the airplanes having xpdr and the tag-a-longs should be OK. In fact, the guy with xpdr could "share expenses" by collecting beer money for escorting "negative xpdr" compadres in and out of the verboten airspace ;o) -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424849#424849 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:00:22 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pitot From: "taildrags" Steve; the ram air tubing on Scout, which is run inside the wing from the pitot location on the jury strut, looks to be standard "aquarium hose" clear vinyl. Unless I ran the math wrong, stagnation air pressure at Vne of 95 MPH is going to be less than 1/4 psi, so it's not like the tubing is going to be under a lot of pressure. That said, you can see that the ASI depends on measuring very small differences in pressure, so the connections should be reasonably tight or you'll have errors in the ASI readout. On my airplane, Corky slid the vinyl tubing over the ends of the metal pitot and static tubes and then secured them with safety wire snugged up to clamp the plastic tubing onto the metallic tubing. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424851#424851 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:03:56 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: scuff damage From: "taildrags" Steve; my opinion only. If you can see that the fabric has not worn through, all you should need to do is clean it up and then build it back up as recommended for the Ceconite system. At least put the silver or UV blocker on the area before touching up the color coat. If the fabric weave is not intact, apply a fabric patch. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424852#424852 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.