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1. 03:07 AM - Re: drain grommets (danhelsper@aol.com)
2. 05:22 AM - Re: Struts (Scott Knowlton)
3. 08:22 AM - Any Piet builders in the Rhode Island area? (Bill)
4. 01:22 PM - Re: Any Piet builders in the Rhode Island area? (Jeff Martin)
5. 09:44 PM - Re: drain grommets (taildrags)
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| Subject: | Re: drain grommets |
I did not use grommets either. Just do as Ken B. says. It makes a nice clea
n integrous hole.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>
Sent: Sat, Jun 21, 2014 10:04 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: drain grommets
Steve, you don't need the grommets. You can just burn a small hole at each
place where you want to be able to drain water, using an electric woodburn
ing pen. You'll find that it is easier, faster, and (to my eyes) tidier th
an gluing on a grommet. Even if you glue the grommet on, you'll still have
to burn a hole with an electric woodburning pen, or something similar. Best
of luck, Ken
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
wrote:
OK guys! I ordered the Ceconite manual when I ordered the covering materiel
. My question was do I need to order grommets as well?
Blue Skies,
Steve D
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Jack Phillips <jack@bedfordlandings.com> w
rote:
Steve, you have so many questions oncovering. I suggest you buy the Ceconi
te manual, or the Stewart Systemmanual, or the PolyFiber manual (I think th
ey=99re all written by the samefellow, Jon Goldbaum), and READ it. E
very question you=99ve asked isanswered in complete detail in these m
anuals.
Covering is the most fun part of buildingan airplane, but you need to learn
the process yourself. The best way tolearn is to take a class such as the
EAA teaches, or at Oshkosh or Sun =98n=99 Fun. Shortof that t
he best thing is to buy the manual and read it cover to cover. If there is
someone knowledgeable nearby who can teach you step by step, thatwould be g
reat. Asking for step by step help on the internet is a poorsubstitute for
one of these other methods.
Good luck with your repairs!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake (W91), Virginia
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Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 6:15PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: draingrommets
I did not order drain grommets from Aircraft spruce, I there a goodreplacem
ent? How far out to space them? There were grommets on trailing edge ofthe
bottom edge.
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Small error in my post below. The wall thickness of the struts is .065, not .035.
Sorry
Scott K.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 21, 2014, at 7:23 AM, "Scott Knowlton" <flyingscott_k@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> For those builders who do not yet have struts for their project I know of a very
nice set that are available in Ontario, Canada. They were purpose built for
a plans built Pietenpol with .035 streamlined 4130 and all four have proper
aircraft fork ends. They were epoxy primed and are painted black. The aircraft
owner has opted for J3 style sealed struts instead so these (according to the
AME who is building the Piet) are surplus to the owner's requirements.
> I know the AME and can put anyone interested in touch with him for more details.
Contact me off list if interested.
> Happy flying this weekend!
>
> Scott Knowlton
> Builder in Burlington Ontario
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| Subject: | Any Piet builders in the Rhode Island area? |
Anyone building an Air Camper in the Rhode Island area.
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| Subject: | Re: Any Piet builders in the Rhode Island area? |
Eaa chapter 130 Danbury ct is building one . Not exactly close to you but may
be helpfull to you .
Jeff Martin
> On Jun 22, 2014, at 11:21 AM, Bill <wemidy@cox.net> wrote:
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> Anyone building an Air Camper in the Rhode Island area.
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| Subject: | Re: drain grommets |
I was going to get all fancy and install "seaplane grommets" when I did my fabric
repairs. However, after getting them and seeing what I had, I realized that
operating a seaplane in spray from the chop created by floats cutting through
waves is a different situation. In that case, plain grommets or holes in the
underside of the trailing edge of the control surfaces will tend to catch as
much water as they drain, so seaplane grommets have little boat-tails or keels
on them that shield the grommet from the oncoming airstream and only let water
drain aft in the slipstream. These are overkill unless you're truly operating
a seaplane. And to add one more data point along with the others who have
chimed in, the drain holes on the control surfaces on 41CC are melted in with
a soldering pencil, through the double-thick area where the finishing tape goes
over the fabric right at the trailing edge of each aileron or elevator before
the aftmost piece of wood on each.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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