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Tue 06/24/14


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 06:47 AM - Re: Re: drain grommets (Charles N. Campbell)
     2. 07:46 AM - Re: Re: drain grommets (Andre B. Charvet)
     3. 09:54 AM - Slick 4000 series mags (woodflier)
     4. 12:48 PM - Re: Slick 4000 series mags (Jack Phillips)
     5. 12:58 PM - Re: Slick 4000 series mags (woodflier)
     6. 01:10 PM - Re: Slick 4000 series mags (glenschweizer@yahoo.com)
     7. 05:20 PM - Covering (Douwe)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:47:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: drain grommets
    From: "Charles N. Campbell" <charlescampbell1924@gmail.com>
    I like the brass grommet idea. after gluing the grommet and patch to the fabric, do you cover with another patch before painting? Chuck On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 7:16 AM, womenfly2 <Love2Fly.KAP@gmail.com> wrote: > > You can go to a hardware store an pick up some aluminum flat washers for a > No. 1/4" bolt (you want a 1/4" ID min.), they work great. I used brass > grommets, the ones use for tents and tarps, crimp to a 2" dia patch then > glue to the fabric, then cut out the hole after painting. > > Do you need grommets called drain holes, yes. They let the structure > breath and let any condensation vent to the outside air. Use only seaplane > ones on seaplanes. > > Hope this helps. > WF2 > > -------- > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425312#425312 > >


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    Time: 07:46:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: drain grommets
    From: "Andre B. Charvet" <bencharvet@gmail.com>
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    Time: 09:54:14 AM PST US
    Subject: Slick 4000 series mags
    From: woodflier <woodflier@aol.com>
    Well, I hope I didn't jump the wrong way. When I build my Piet, I bought tw o mags from a guy in my EAA chapter, one was a Slick 4333, the other a Slic k 4003. The 4003 is one of the old 'throw away' mags. That mag has gone bad and there's no replacement parts or way to overhaul it. I found a 4003 onl ine, listed as 'surplus unused' for $500. But I got to thinking that the ma g has to be at least 35 to 40 years old and opted to spend twice that for a new 4333 which can be overhauled when the time comes. I hated to spend that kind of $$ but got to thinking about those times over West Virginia where was no place to land except the trees on the side of a mountain and opted for a bit more peace of mind. Sorry, just practicing my " 'Splainin' myself" speech for my wife. Matt Paxton Piet NX629ML Fairfield, VA


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    Time: 12:48:08 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <jack@bedfordlandings.com>
    Subject: Slick 4000 series mags
    Matt, I've got a pair of Slick 4333's on mine and have had trouble free service for 300+ hours. Since both are impulse, it's very easy to start too. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake (W91), Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of woodflier Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:52 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Slick 4000 series mags Well, I hope I didn't jump the wrong way. When I build my Piet, I bought two mags from a guy in my EAA chapter, one was a Slick 4333, the other a Slick 4003. The 4003 is one of the old 'throw away' mags. That mag has gone bad and there's no replacement parts or way to overhaul it. I found a 4003 online, listed as 'surplus unused' for $500. But I got to thinking that the mag has to be at least 35 to 40 years old and opted to spend twice that for a new 4333 which can be overhauled when the time comes. I hated to spend that kind of $$ but got to thinking about those times over West Virginia where was no place to land except the trees on the side of a mountain and opted for a bit more peace of mind. Sorry, just practicing my " 'Splainin' myself" speech for my wife. Matt Paxton Piet NX629ML Fairfield, VA


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    Time: 12:58:57 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Slick 4000 series mags
    From: woodflier <woodflier@aol.com>
    That's good to hear. I think about that route over the mountains to Beckley and feel good about my decision. I've had no trouble at all out of the rig ht mag, the 4333. I got to thinking how old that coil was in the 4003 for s ale and decided that peace of mind was worth a few hundred bucks. By the way, with some real smoke oil, I'm smoking up a storm. Matt -----Original Message----- From: Jack Phillips <jack@bedfordlandings.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 24, 2014 3:49 pm Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Slick 4000 series mags Matt, I=99ve got a pair of Slick 4333=99son mine and have had t rouble free service for 300+ hours. Since both areimpulse, it=99s ve ry easy to start too. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake (W91), Virginia From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list- server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of woodflier Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:52PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Slick4000 series mags Well, I hope I didn't jump the wrong way.When I build my Piet, I bought two mags from a guy in my EAA chapter, one was aSlick 4333, the other a Slick 4003. The 4003 is one of the old 'throw away'mags. That mag has gone bad an d there's no replacement parts or way to overhaulit. I found a 4003 online, listed as 'surplus unused' for $500. But I got tothinking that the mag has to be at least 35 to 40 years old and opted to spendtwice that for a new 4 333 which can be overhauled when the time comes. I hated to spend that kind of $$ but got to thinking about those times over West Virginia where was no place to land except the trees on the side of am ountain and opted for a bit more peace of mind. Sorry, just practicing my " 'Splainin' myself" speech for my wife. Matt Paxton Piet NX629ML Fairfield, VA http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 01:10:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Slick 4000 series mags
    From: glenschweizer@yahoo.com
    Hey Matt If she goes with you on one of those flights where there's nothin but t rees and mountains, you'll have a lot less splainin to do. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 24, 2014, at 12:46 PM, "Jack Phillips" <jack@bedfordlandings.com> w rote: > > Matt, I=99ve got a pair of Slick 4333=99s on mine and have had trouble free service for 300+ hours. Since both are impulse, it=99s v ery easy to start too. > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP > Smith Mountain Lake (W91), Virginia > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of woodflier > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:52 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Slick 4000 series mags > > Well, I hope I didn't jump the wrong way. When I build my Piet, I bought t wo mags from a guy in my EAA chapter, one was a Slick 4333, the other a Slic k 4003. The 4003 is one of the old 'throw away' mags. That mag has gone bad a nd there's no replacement parts or way to overhaul it. I found a 4003 online , listed as 'surplus unused' for $500. But I got to thinking that the mag ha s to be at least 35 to 40 years old and opted to spend twice that for a new 4 333 which can be overhauled when the time comes. > > I hated to spend that kind of $$ but got to thinking about those times ove r West Virginia where was no place to land except the trees on the side of a mountain and opted for a bit more peace of mind. > > Sorry, just practicing my " 'Splainin' myself" speech for my wife. > > Matt Paxton > Piet NX629ML > Fairfield, VA > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >


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    Time: 05:20:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Covering
    From: Douwe <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Steve Just use anti chafe on any wood with an edge or a protrusion that'll wear thru fabric. Too much is better than too little, especially if using lightweight fabric Never understood why you'd go the trouble of grommets when burning holes is so easy and neat Douwe Sent from my iPhone




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