---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 06/29/14: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:16 AM - Re: Bob's Pietenpol flies (Baldeagle) 2. 08:03 AM - spring type spit axle (aviken) 3. 08:53 AM - Re: Re: Bob's Pietenpol flies (M. Zeke Zechini) 4. 11:00 AM - Re: spring type spit axle (macz@peak.org) 5. 11:40 AM - Re: Broadhead light this year??? (AircamperN11MS) 6. 12:15 PM - Re: spring type spit axle (shad bell) 7. 01:07 PM - Re: Broadhead light this year??? (Baldeagle) 8. 01:11 PM - Re: Broadhead light this year??? (Baldeagle) 9. 02:19 PM - Re: Brodhead light this year (woodflier) 10. 02:23 PM - Re: Engines (taildrags) 11. 02:40 PM - Re: Engines (taildrags) 12. 03:19 PM - Carlson streamline tubing - jury strut fittings. (Jim Markle) 13. 05:51 PM - Re: Re: Engines (Brian Kenney) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:24 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bob's Pietenpol flies From: "Baldeagle" I had to get back to Bob's for lunch or I would have landed. Did another fly by about 3:30, and told Bob where it was, he may have flown by later in the afternoon. It has 36 legit hours on it as of last night, with any luck it will reach 40 today. >From the morning flight: High 'n' slow Low and fast?? - -------- do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425706#425706 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:03:32 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: spring type spit axle From: "aviken" Ive been working a little on my landing gear. Hope to get her standing up-right soon. I decided to go with the spring type suspension that William Wynne described to avoid bungee worries. It is a neat design although I'm not sure that it is Lighter. It will possible be heaver, but less drag. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425720#425720 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/spring_2_929.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:53:23 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bob's Pietenpol flies From: "M. Zeke Zechini" Bob did a fly-by at White Post. I had just finished attaching newly covered gear. IA will visit for for conditional soon. Sent from my iPad > On Jun 29, 2014, at 8:15 AM, "Baldeagle" wrote: > > > I had to get back to Bob's for lunch or I would have landed. Did another fly by about 3:30, and told Bob where it was, he may have flown by later in the afternoon. It has 36 legit hours on it as of last night, with any luck it will reach 40 today. > >> From the morning flight: > > High 'n' slow > > > > Low and fast?? > > > > > - > > -------- > do not archive > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425706#425706 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:00:59 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: spring type spit axle From: macz@peak.org Just a comment-- Looks great, but you won't gain much in the drag department unless you can put an airfoil shape onto that round tubing. --Mac in Oregon > > Ive been working a little on my landing gear. Hope to get her standing > up-right soon. I decided to go with the spring type suspension that > William Wynne described to avoid bungee worries. It is a neat design > although I'm not sure that it is Lighter. It will possible be heaver, > but less drag. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425720#425720 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/spring_2_929.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:40:24 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Broadhead light this year??? From: "AircamperN11MS" Steve and Peter plan to fly their Corvair powered Piet from French Valley airport in CA. This is the one they trailerd back a few years ago. EAA chapter 1279 built it. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425729#425729 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:15:55 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: spring type spit axle Here are a few pics of the die spring landing gear struts-I built for the Baby Lakes.- Springs for-a Piet will need to be a little stiffer.- M cMaster Carr has many sizes and wt. ratings for springs, these were about $ 40 each if I remember correctly, and weigh about 1.5-2lbs each.- If you l ook closely at the the upper end of the 2nd pic you can see the solid barst ock welded into the tube, that is where the strut attaches to the fuselage. - The good thing about this setup is you can change the springs out if ne eded (too stiff, too soft) without cutting and welding. I have a similar ge ar on my Jungster, but there is no changing springs out without welding up a new upper tube.- If I like this gear I may build one for the Piet.=0A -=0AShad=0A-=0A-=0A-=0A- =0A=0A=0AOn Sunday, June 29, 2014 2:07 P M, "macz@peak.org" wrote:=0A =0A=0A=0A--> Pietenpol-List m essage posted by: macz@peak.org=0A=0AJust a comment--=0ALooks great, but yo u won't gain much in the drag department unless you can=0Aput an airfoil sh ape onto that round tubing.=0A--Mac in Oregon=0A=0A=0A=0A> --> Pietenpol-Li st message posted by: "aviken" =0A>=0A> Ive been wor king a little on my landing gear.- Hope to get her standing=0A> up-right soon.- I decided to go with the spring type suspension that=0A> William Wynne described to avoid- bungee worries.- - It is- a neat design =0A> although I'm not sure that it is- Lighter.- It will possible be he aver,=0A> but less drag.=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> Read this topic online here: =0A>=0A> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425720#425720=0A>=0A >=0A>=0A>=0A> Attachments:=0A>=0A> http://forums.matronics.com//files/sprin ============= ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:07:38 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Broadhead light this year??? From: "Baldeagle" Frank Pavliga's "Sky Gipsy" and the original Rudolf Air Camper should be there. Dewey might bring his as well. - -------- do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425734#425734 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:11:47 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Broadhead light this year??? From: "Baldeagle" Douwe, are you coming to the Barnstorming Carnival at Springfield OH the weekend before Brodhead?? - -------- do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425735#425735 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:19:00 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead light this year From: woodflier I plan on flying out from Virginia, leaving Wed., the 23rd and arriving Thu rs. or Fri, depending on weather. Is there a group planning to fly to OSH on Sunday? Matt Paxton NX629ML ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:23:36 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engines From: "taildrags" The NZ Piets were/are powered by Toyota Hilux engines: http://nzcivair.blogspot.com/2013/07/pietenpol-aircampers-of-new-zealand.html I have no idea which of the many Hilux engines they used though. Over the years there were many variations, from 1.5L and on up. Most of them seem to make rated power at 4800 RPM but I don't see a reduction drive on the pictures of the NZ Piets, so who knows how much power they get out of them. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425737#425737 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:40:47 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engines From: "taildrags" OK... sorry... I found out that the Kiwi Piet uses the Toyota 22R engine but that still doesn't help figure out how much power it's making. They are variously rated at 97-108 HP at 4800-5000 RPM. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425740#425740 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:19:13 PM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Pietenpol-List: Carlson streamline tubing - jury strut fittings. A couple of pics of one way to do jury strut fittings.... Jim in Pryor, OK ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:51:54 PM PST US From: Brian Kenney Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engines I believe it is a 4Y engine which is a pushrod engine not with an overhead cam > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engines > From: taildrags@hotmail.com > Date: Sun=2C 29 Jun 2014 14:40:22 -0700 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > OK... sorry... I found out that the Kiwi Piet uses the Toyota 22R engine but that still doesn't help figure out how much power it's making. They ar e variously rated at 97-108 HP at 4800-5000 RPM. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford=2C OR > Air Camper NX41CC "=3BScout"=3B > A75 power > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425740#425740 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.