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1. 05:20 AM - Tailwheel steering (Douwe)
2. 05:52 AM - Re: Tailwheel steering (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
3. 06:28 AM - Trip to Brodhead (santiago morete)
4. 07:24 AM - ###4th FLIGHT### (Chris Rusch)
5. 07:52 AM - Re: ###4th FLIGHT### (Michael Groah)
6. 08:24 AM - Re: Engines (Bill Church)
7. 08:57 AM - Re: ###4th FLIGHT### (Gene Rambo)
8. 10:25 AM - Chris Rusch stick-nose heavy conditioin (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
9. 10:49 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead light this year (Boatright, Jeffrey)
10. 10:58 AM - Re: ###4th FLIGHT### (Dan Yocum)
11. 11:18 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead light this year (woodflier)
12. 11:42 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead light this year (Boatright, Jeffrey)
13. 12:01 PM - Re: Re: Brodhead light this year (Steven Dortch)
14. 12:12 PM - Re: Chris Rusch stick-nose heavy conditioin (Chris Rusch)
15. 12:16 PM - Re: ###4th FLIGHT### (Chris Rusch)
16. 01:15 PM - Sutherland House Room available; Was: Re: Brodhead light this year (Boatright, Jeffrey)
17. 01:51 PM - Re: Re: steel tube jury strut idea, ala Aeronca Champ (Ray Krause)
18. 05:37 PM - Re: ###4th FLIGHT### (William Wynne)
19. 06:12 PM - Re: Chris Rusch stick-nose heavy conditioin (jarheadpilot82)
20. 10:18 PM - Re: Re: ###4th FLIGHT### (shad bell)
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| Subject: | Tailwheel steering |
Andy
I personally like a separate set of cables to steer the tailwheel and have been
happy with it. I set it up just like bill rewey did.
One often overlooked issue is steering ratio. To avoid an overly squirrelly steering
response the wheel should turn the same ratio (or even less IMHO) than
the rudder. This requires the wheel steering horns be the same length as on the
rudder
I used a 3" wheel to keep weight down and everyone told me it wouldn't have steering
authority and it would wear out real quick but it's working great. I just
bought ten at the same time thinking I'd change it each season and haven't
changed it after about 75hrs
I just don't think we really need these big honkin' wheels back there
$.02
Douwe
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| Subject: | Tailwheel steering |
Ray-I spliced in (nicopress sleeve) a separate set of cables like Bill Rewe
y, Douwe, & others have done to the rudder control
cables just under the pilot seat and they have worked very well over the ye
ars.
Be sure to follow the guidelines that Tony Bingelis outlines in his Sportpl
ane Builder series of books on the proper selection and
installation of aircraft cables and pullies and especially pulley guard saf
ety straps/wires when installling these cables (and all other cables as wel
l)
and you'll have many years of worry-free and trouble-free flying.
Mike C.
Ohio
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Andy
I personally like a separate set of cables to steer the tailwheel and have
been happy with it. I set it up just like bill rewey did.
One often overlooked issue is steering ratio. To avoid an overly squirrell
y steering response the wheel should turn the same ratio (or even less IMHO
) than the rudder. This requires the wheel steering horns be the same leng
th as on the rudder
I used a 3" wheel to keep weight down and everyone told me it wouldn't have
steering authority and it would wear out real quick but it's working great
. I just bought ten at the same time thinking I'd change it each season an
d haven't changed it after about 75hrs
I just don't think we really need these big honkin' wheels back there
$.02
Douwe
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| Subject: | Trip to Brodhead |
Hi everyone!=0AI'll be traveling to the USA and visiting Brodhead for just
one day. This is my second time, first was in 2008 and had a wonderful expe
rience thanks to Dan Helsper and his family. This year I'll be there with m
y girlfriend Paula and a very special lady, Betty, Dan's mother.=0A=0AAs so
me of you know, I'm from Argentina and have been building a Model A powered
Piet since september 2004. The airframe is finished and all covered but I'
m waiting for the engine to be assembled.-=0A=0AThere are some items I wo
uld like to acquire while in the USA. If any of you have a decent set of pl
ans to sell, I'll be happy to buy them, mine are very worn-out and I would
like to have a new set to preserve. Also I'm looking for two nice goggles (
e.g. Halcyon, Climax). We are not allowed to import things freely here, so
I don't mind to pay the full "store" price for these items.-=0A=0AI hope
to meet as many of you as possible.=0ASaludos!=0A=0ASantiago
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| Subject: | ###4th FLIGHT### |
Just a short clip of what's going on.
I took everybody suggestions.....I twisted the tail, added a shim and still no
change. Terrible stick pressure to keep the nose up.
Re-checked weight and balance and yes it is forward at 15.9"
I bought two lead shot bags at 25 lbs each and that's the next step is to put one
along side of the driver and see if it make s a change, one at a time.
On a funny note, im the only guy with a nose heavy Pietenpol!! should have built
the long fuse version!
http://youtu.be/o02X2V7F4VM
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| Subject: | Re: ###4th FLIGHT### |
You're not the only one. My cg is also towards the front of the envelope. I
have a long fuse, Corvair powered Piet. I have my horizontal twisted to compensate.
I moved my wing too far back in the build and I think this winter I'll
move my wing forward some so I can take the twist out of the stab. It flies
nice how it is though. I had the engine shut down on take off due to carb
ice while taking my first passenger up (my wife). With the forward cg the nose
came right down and was very controllable. We made a safe landing off airport
and yes, my wife still flies with me.
Mike Groah
Tulare CA
414MV
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> On Jul 2, 2014, at 7:23 AM, "Chris Rusch" <rmdinfo@rmdbenders.com> wrote:
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> Just a short clip of what's going on.
> I took everybody suggestions.....I twisted the tail, added a shim and still no
change. Terrible stick pressure to keep the nose up.
> Re-checked weight and balance and yes it is forward at 15.9"
> I bought two lead shot bags at 25 lbs each and that's the next step is to put
one along side of the driver and see if it make s a change, one at a time.
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> On a funny note, im the only guy with a nose heavy Pietenpol!! should have built
the long fuse version!
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Don't think this one has actually taken flight (yet).
But if/when it does, I'm sure it will be a "first".
http://msumadvocate.com/2013/10/22/its-electric-physics-prof-builds-experimental-plane/
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: ###4th FLIGHT### |
Move the wing forward....
Gene
On Jul 2, 2014, at 10:23 AM, "Chris Rusch" <rmdinfo@rmdbenders.com> wrote:
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> Just a short clip of what's going on.
> I took everybody suggestions.....I twisted the tail, added a shim and still no
change. Terrible stick pressure to keep the nose up.
> Re-checked weight and balance and yes it is forward at 15.9"
> I bought two lead shot bags at 25 lbs each and that's the next step is to put
one along side of the driver and see if it make s a change, one at a time.
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> On a funny note, im the only guy with a nose heavy Pietenpol!! should have built
the long fuse version!
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> http://youtu.be/o02X2V7F4VM
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> NX321LR
> Now test flying!!
> Mitsubishi Powered
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| Subject: | Chris Rusch stick-nose heavy conditioin |
Chris-forgive me if this has already been covered but your rear cabane stru
t is one inch shorter than the front strut yes as the plans show?
I agree with Gene that moving the wing forward should help but your 25 poun
d bags of shot next to you in the rear seat should be (one at a time
as you say) a very good experiment.
You're probably one of the few Pietnpol pilots who actually has a very dece
nt, even possibly a low, body mass index! I'd gladly fly your Pietenp
ol
around to let you know what 210 pounds in the rear seat will do for your st
ick/CG forces:) !
You are doing GREAT. Your plane is stunningly beautiful, you are breakin
g great new ground with that Mitsubishi engine, and your video is excellent
and I'm sure it will inspire those new to the list to keep on building!
Mike C.
Ohio
PS- I can send you my diet plan if you like......:) !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o02X2V7F4VM&feature=youtu.be
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead light this year |
I am pulling the plug on my 2014 flight to Brodhead and Oshkosh. We=92ve ha
d a serious setback at work, an administrative self-inflicted wound that is
badly affecting my program (over half the income to the lab). I can=92t be
away from the group until it=92s resolved, and that doesn=92t look to be h
appening any time soon. I=92m probably going to have to pull the plug on a
professional trip that was also planned for this month, so this isn=92t jus
t affecting =93play time."
Big, big bummer.
You guys have a great time and please send photos, movies, and commentary!
Sent from an iPhone with a spelling problem
On Jun 30, 2014, at 10:00 AM, "woodflier" <woodflier@aol.com<mailto:woodfli
er@aol.com>> wrote:
I'm planning on flying my Piet up from Virginia, leaving Wednesday, the 23r
d and arriving Thursday or Friday, depending on weather.
Are there any plans to fly a group of Piets on Sunday to Oshkosh. I'm in fo
r that.
Matt Paxton
NX629ML
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| Subject: | Re: ###4th FLIGHT### |
On 07/02/2014 10:56 AM, Gene Rambo wrote:
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> Move the wing forward....
That's what I was going to say. From the video we see that you've
slanted the cabanes back - that's only necessary with the lighter
Continentals.
How much shorter are your rear cabanes?
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> Gene
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> On Jul 2, 2014, at 10:23 AM, "Chris Rusch" <rmdinfo@rmdbenders.com> wrote:
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>> Just a short clip of what's going on.
>> I took everybody suggestions.....I twisted the tail, added a shim and still
no change. Terrible stick pressure to keep the nose up.
>> Re-checked weight and balance and yes it is forward at 15.9"
>> I bought two lead shot bags at 25 lbs each and that's the next step is to put
one along side of the driver and see if it make s a change, one at a time.
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>> On a funny note, im the only guy with a nose heavy Pietenpol!! should have built
the long fuse version!
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>> http://youtu.be/o02X2V7F4VM
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>> Now test flying!!
>> Mitsubishi Powered
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead light this year |
Jeff, I'm sorry you can't make it. Have you ever been to the Triple Tree F
ly-In in South Carolina. I went last year, good time and by September maybe
your issues will be fixed. That 7000' grass runway is like a putting green
. I may try that in the Piet this year.
Matt Paxton
Fairfield, VA
NX629ML
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From: Boatright, Jeffrey <jeffboatright@emory.edu>
Sent: Wed, Jul 2, 2014 1:50 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead light this year
I am pulling the plug on my 2014 flight to Brodhead and Oshkosh. We
=99ve had a serious setback at work, an administrative self-inflicted wound
that is badly affecting my program (over half the income to the lab). I ca
n=99t be away from the group until it=99s resolved, and that do
esn=99t look to be happening any time soon. I=99m probably goin
g to have to pull the plug on a professional trip that was also planned for
this month, so this isn=99t just affecting =9Cplay time."
Big, big bummer.
You guys have a great time and please send photos, movies, and commentary!
Sent from an iPhone with a spelling problem
On Jun 30, 2014, at 10:00 AM, "woodflier" <woodflier@aol.com> wrote:
I'm planning on flying my Piet up from Virginia, leaving Wednesday, the 23r
d and arriving Thursday or Friday, depending on weather.
Are there any plans to fly a group of Piets on Sunday to Oshkosh. I'm in fo
r that.
Matt Paxton
NX629ML
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead light this year |
Hi Matt,
I haven't been to Triple Tree, but two of my hangar mates went last year, s
o it is on my calendar for this year. Hope to see you there.
Jeff
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On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:20 PM, "woodflier" <woodflier@aol.com<mailto:woodflier
@aol.com>> wrote:
Jeff, I'm sorry you can't make it. Have you ever been to the Triple Tree Fl
y-In in South Carolina. I went last year, good time and by September maybe
your issues will be fixed. That 7000' grass runway is like a putting green.
I may try that in the Piet this year.
Matt Paxton
Fairfield, VA
NX629ML
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I am pulling the plug on my 2014 flight to Brodhead and Oshkosh. We=92ve ha
d a serious setback at work, an administrative self-inflicted wound that is
badly affecting my program (over half the income to the lab). I can=92t be
away from the group until it=92s resolved, and that doesn=92t look to be h
appening any time soon. I=92m probably going to have to pull the plug on a
professional trip that was also planned for this month, so this isn=92t jus
t affecting =93play time."
Big, big bummer.
You guys have a great time and please send photos, movies, and commentary!
Sent from an iPhone with a spelling problem
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I'm planning on flying my Piet up from Virginia, leaving Wednesday, the 23r
d and arriving Thursday or Friday, depending on weather.
Are there any plans to fly a group of Piets on Sunday to Oshkosh. I'm in fo
r that.
Matt Paxton
NX629ML
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead light this year |
I had fully intended on making the pilgrimage but, finances or time simply
will not allow it . Finance and time has also slowed my finish time so I
will spend my Broadhead time working on my Piet.
Blue Skies,
Steve D.
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| Subject: | Re: Chris Rusch stick-nose heavy conditioin |
HI Mike,
Well......first off that not me in the pilot seat, it my mentor test pilot, he
very skilled in T/W airplanes. He is only about 150......me, im with the majority
at 205. that is what we are trying the weight sacks first before moving the
wing or anything drastic.
I am using the riblet, so my cabanes are equal length. There was a post about this
subject and it shows that the if you lay out the wing incidence, the riblet
cabane should be 11/16 shorter in the rear to get the 2deg angle of incidence.
if the sand bags don't help, that's what im going to do.
Thanks for the nice comments! I still want to try a shorter prop and get the RPM's
up more into the power band, but its working fine with the 76 incher I have
on there.
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: ###4th FLIGHT### |
That's the part that is kinda baffling as the weight and balance is perfect......we
are going to add weight to match a 200 lb guy in the back and see what happens.
If then no improvement, its shorter cabanes and possibly shift the wing
back forward.
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead light |
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| Subject: | Re: steel tube jury strut idea, ala Aeronca Champ |
Oops, sorry! Guess I will attribute that to old age! My age gets me out of a lot
of jams. I apologize to both you and Chuck.
Regretfully,
Ray Krause
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| Subject: | Re: ###4th FLIGHT### |
Chris,
Congratulations on getting your bird flying. I just read over your notes and would
like to share some thoughts. Forgive me in advance if I missed anything you
said, but here are some thoughts:
15.9" is not having the CG too far forward. I have plenty of time flying in that
range, and as Mike G pointed out, the plane has normal handling there. As the
plans note, the acceptable range is 15" to 20". If you are in this range and
the plane does not have normal behavior, it is likely something else.
If you have a good electronic scale W&B, it is a very easy matter to do an exact
calculation to know exactly where the CG will be with a 205 pound pilot. If
you have any trouble with this, send me the data privately, and I will do it
for you. The whole point to our previous work is so people can do a calculation,
and not guess nor estimate. I can not say for sure without numbers, but there
is a very good chance that a 15.9"/150lb pilot plane will still be in CG with
a 205 pound pilot.
If you load up the plane and move the CG back and it flies better at say 19.8",
this doesn't mean that the 'problem' has been corrected. It is possible in rigging
to have the illusion that the condition is 'fixed', when it has just been
masked. If the incidence is not correct, but this is less noticeable with the
CG aft, that doesn't constitute a solution, just a mask.
If your plane has a different airfoil, than the best advice is going to come from
a guy who not only has time with your airfoil, but also the standard one. You
need to contact PF Beck and Don Harper. Both their planes fly well, they have
motors in your weight category, PF would box as a welterweight, Don as a super
Welterweight. (147 and 154 lbs) PF's has the Std. airfoil, Don the Ribblett.
Get on the phone with them and ask about their CG, and also the rigging on
Don's plane, including the incidence and the position of the horizontal stab.
Get a smart level, and measure the stuff in degrees, and listen to the man flying
the combination, not the theory of what it should be.
A few guys mentioned 'twisted' stabilizers. Am I reading the correctly? or is the
comment really about the incidence of the stabilizer? Twist to me implies wash
in or wash out on a wing, I am not used to calling anything in the tail twisted.
I bring this up because other people may also not be getting the comment.
A little work on calculation and direct research with people flying the same airfoil
in a similar plane is a whole lot less work than following any suggestion
to move the wing some random amount. If, after investigation, it turns out that
the wing does need to be moved, I can also show you the exact calculation
to hit your new target CG right on. That is more complicated than a normal calculation,
but the CG articles we did, available from Doc Mosher, walk you through
it step by step.
My neighbors 200HP Glasair only did 160mph with full aft stick on its first flight;
3 people from the EAA chapter all claimed the CG was wrong. Actual issue?
LE of the stabilizer was off by 5/8". Corrected, the plane does 240 mph. 601XL
came to our hangar 2007, aircraft could not be effectively trimmed. Builder
was told it was a CG issue by several people. In reality, stabilizer was off by
1.5 or 2 degrees. Corrected the plane flew very well. I have a lot of stories
like this, do some research and your plane will get squared away shortly. Follow
someone's guess and go on a wild goose chase. Take your pick.
Hope to see many of you at Brodhead.
William Wynne
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| Subject: | Re: Chris Rusch stick-nose heavy conditioin |
Chris,
A couple of questions come to mind-
1. How did you weigh your aircraft? Was it actual aircraft scales? Using something
like 3 sets of bathroom scales can be extremely error-filed.
2. Did somebody else check your W&B computations? Not to say that you don't know
how to do a weight and balance sheet, but I would not feel bad if someone checked
my work if I was having W&B issues.
3. Have you read William Wynne's series of articles on Pietenpol weight and balance?
I think that they are well written and are backed up by some real numbers,
as opposed to guesswork.
4. Did you mention where your cabanes are set? Straight up? Aft? How far? Although
I am still building, it would seem to me that cabane height and angle of incidence
are not your issues.
If you need the W&B articles let me know.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
USMC, USMCR, ATP
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| Subject: | Re: ###4th FLIGHT### |
You ain't the only one, N92GB is nose heavy with me flying it.- I have-
had the shot bags by my butt on many occasions. It was set up for a 230 lbs
pilot, I am only 190.- Dad adds ballast in the nose compartment when he
flys.- I need to get fatter or move the wing forward, he has only flown a
bout 6 hrs in the last 2 years.=0A-=0AShad =0A=0A=0AOn Wednesday, July 2,
2014 3:27 PM, Chris Rusch <rmdinfo@rmdbenders.com> wrote:=0A =0A=0A=0A-->
Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Chris Rusch" <rmdinfo@rmdbenders.com>
=0A=0AThat's the part that is kinda baffling as the weight and balance is p
erfect......we are going to add weight to match a 200 lb guy in the back an
d see what happens. If then no improvement, its shorter cabanes and possibl
y shift the wing back forward.=0A=0A--------=0ANX321LR=0ANow test flying!!
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