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1. 04:16 AM - Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts (womenfly2)
2. 05:25 AM - Dan Helsper makes cover of CONTACT! magazine (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
3. 06:55 AM - Re: Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts (Steven Dortch)
4. 08:56 AM - Re: Dan Helsper makes cover of CONTACT! magazine (taildrags)
5. 10:35 AM - Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts (William Wynne)
6. 11:05 AM - Re: Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts (danhelsper@aol.com)
7. 11:16 AM - Re: Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts (Keith)
8. 11:32 AM - Re: Landing gear about finished (at7000ft)
9. 11:44 AM - Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts (AircamperN11MS)
10. 12:10 PM - Re: Seatbelt eyebolts. (at7000ft)
11. 02:49 PM - Re: Dan Helsper makes cover of CONTACT! magazine (dog67@aol.com)
12. 04:13 PM - Re: Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts (Ray Krause)
13. 04:32 PM - Re: Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts (Gary Boothe)
14. 05:02 PM - Re: Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts (Rick Holland)
15. 05:11 PM - Re: Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts (Gary Boothe)
16. 05:52 PM - Re: Landing gear about finished (aviken)
17. 06:09 PM - Airventure Latex Paint Forums (gliderx5@comcast.net)
18. 06:11 PM - Re: FYI Aluminum Strut Sizes (fastj22)
19. 06:26 PM - Brodhead 2014 (IT Girl)
20. 06:40 PM - Re: Brodhead 2014 (dog67@aol.com)
21. 06:49 PM - Re: Brodhead 2014 (fastj22)
22. 07:11 PM - Re: Brodhead 2014 (IT Girl)
23. 08:28 PM - Re: Brodhead 2014 (Rick)
24. 08:59 PM - Re: Brodhead 2014 (Ken Bickers)
25. 09:26 PM - Re: Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts (Ray Krause)
26. 09:37 PM - Re: Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts (Ray Krause)
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| Subject: | Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts |
This is all well and good, but the weak link is the motor bracket attachment to
the top wood longeron. That will fail first as the load on the bolts will split
the wood.
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| Subject: | Dan Helsper makes cover of CONTACT! magazine |
https://www.facebook.com/www.CONTACTMagazine
Builder/ pilot, owner-operator of NX929DH, Captain Dan Helsper of Loenslo
e Air Service has made the cover of CONTACT! Magazine
with his beautiful Model A Ford powered Pietenpol Aircamper. Way to go
Dan!
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| Subject: | Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal |
struts
If you put the Rotax on you will have to extend the nose so far it will
look like a turbine!
Blue Skies,
Steve D
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| Subject: | Re: Dan Helsper makes cover of CONTACT! magazine |
Yes, that's right. However, the photo on the Facebook page is not what the cover
actually looks like. Pat has added a commemorative medallion for the 85th
anniversary. Be at Brodhead or Oshkosh and get your copy of the magazine...
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts |
WF2;
At first glance, I would guess that the "bolts are stronger than wood" makes sense,
but eyeballing it, even with an educated eye, does not prove correct here.
I have photos of a number of Crashed Piets, going back to one a Brodhead in 1990,
where all the planes had sevearly compromised diagonal cabanes, but none of
them had ripped the bracket off the top longeron. This includes my own plane,
which burn to a cinder following the crash which folded the diagonal cabanes
right in the middle, but I still have the top longeron brackets and the wood left
between them is charred, but intact. I also have photos that a bystander took
while the plane was 1/2 burnt that show the top longeron is still intact after
the impact.
I have read almost all of the comments you have made here. and they are well thought
out, but on this issue, I would like to politely point out that your perspective
is not correct in light of physical evidence, and I would not want anyone
considering improving their diagonal cabanes not to do so because they read
you comment. Most things people have a different opionon on in piet construction
are really expressions of preference, but my 3 points, Diagonal cabanes,
fuel lines and CG are important enough that I will explain them at length.
The two stories are here:
http://flycorvair.net/2013/12/19/pietenpol-fuel-lines-and-cabanes/
and:
http://flycorvair.net/2013/12/20/fuel-lines-and-cabanes-part-2/
Please look at the photos, and consider copying the red strut attachment style.
It is on Dave Mensik's Piet, and it eliminates the weal point ay the ends of
the struts. Any system that ends with a fork, plate or a flattened tube can be
strengthened by having the tube stay full cross section like on Dave's.
If someone is understood to be a fool, and they tell people that my 3 points don't
matter, I don't care, as few people will follow them, and in some ways it
illustrates the issue better. Conversely, when people who are well thought of,
trend setters, educated or experienced builders say things that conflict with
the risk management message I want to share, I am compelled to respond because
I don't want the practical issue lost in theoretical debate. At first glance,
this gives the illusion that I am arguing with some of the most respected people,
when I am not, and hopefully the people I respond to will understand that
it is validation that their perspectives are well read and usually correct.
-------------------------------------------------------
In 4 days, I will be at the 13th anniversary of my accident. The time allows a
better understanding of the actual cost; the plane and burns don't add up to a
meaningful loss when considered against 1) My wife, who has always been a better
pilot than I, lost much of her pure joy for planes while sitting in the ICU
with me for a month when I looked like a burger left on the grill, 2) The event
made my parents age, their support over a long year stole some of their remaining
optimism. 3) the PIC who was lightly injured, who I went back to extract
from the wreckage, has terrible ptsd over what it cost me to save him. You
can build a new plane, you can forget the physical pain, these just take time,
but I have found , no matter how hard I have tried,I am completely powerless
to fix 1-2- and 3. Think that over.
The sole good thing that came about was that my father, who's office was on the 89th floor of the World Trade Center #2, took the day off on 9/11 to be with me in the hospital. In 24 years there he had missed very few days in the building. I wrote some notes about it with a photo, they are at the bottom of this link: http://www.flycorvair.com/hangar0911.html -ww.
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| Subject: | Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal |
struts
I would like to hear the engineers chime-in on this. Maybe my swing-set tec
hnology will work after all.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: womenfly2 <Love2Fly.KAP@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Jul 10, 2014 8:54 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagona
l struts
This is all well and good, but the weak link is the motor bracket attachmen
t to
the top wood longeron. That will fail first as the load on the bolts will s
plit
the wood.
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| Subject: | Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal |
struts
But will climb like a homesick angel if the one we have here in the UK
is anything to go by!
Keith Hodge
On 10/07/2014 14:54, Steven Dortch wrote:
> If you put the Rotax on you will have to extend the nose so far it
> will look like a turbine!
> Blue Skies,
> Steve D
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Landing gear about finished |
Very nice work. I built mine with open springs via the Cub/GN-1 plans (but I think
the Pietenpol design you used is better). Like a moron I paid no attention
to those that said that the springs should be pre-compressed. So now in order
for my axles to be horizontal at gross weight I will need to shorten each spring-strut
by around an inch and a half. Gear works fine though, am thinking about
replacing mine someday with the Pietenpol design using the same springs and
an inch and a half shorter.
rh
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Rick Holland
NX6819Z
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| Subject: | Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts |
I'm with WW on this one. If you take a good look at how the Cont and Corvair engine
mounts are constructed and the fact that they bolt directly to the diagonal
cabane strut mounts, it ties everything together with a lot of triangular structures.
I don't think the upper longerons are carrying the loads you think
they are. The firewall is providing a large gusset, this will help prevent diamonding
the structure too. There are a lot of triangular structures involved
there if you step back and look at it. Triangles are very strong.
I don't have any degrees in engineering, but I do design engineering at work on
a daily basis.
My 3 cents,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Seatbelt eyebolts. |
Mounted my lap belts as you described through wood with extra 1/8" ply on each
side. My shoulder belts attach all the way back to my AN6 tailwheel attach bolt
with a 1/8" cable in between.
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Rick Holland
NX6819Z
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| Subject: | Re: Dan Helsper makes cover of CONTACT! magazine |
Give the shutterbug some credit ;)
- Jonathan Apfelbaum
-----Original Message-----
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC] (GRC-LME0)[Vantage
Partners, LLC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
Sent: Thu, Jul 10, 2014 7:54 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dan Helsper makes cover of CONTACT! magazine
https://www.facebook.com/www.CONTACTMagazine
Builder/ pilot, owner-operator of NX929DH, Captain Dan Helsper of Loenslo
e Air Service has made the cover of CONTACT! Magazine
with his beautiful Model A Ford powered Pietenpol Aircamper. Way to go
Dan!
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| Subject: | Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal |
struts
In response to your comment about the firewall being so structurally importa
nt: my firewall is 1/4" plywood with a stainless steel face plate. I now hav
e it bolted to the two upright members that join the top longerons vertical
ly. I use four AN-3 bolts through the firewall and the front vertical member
s, threading into a plate nut. Would this be adequate for strength, or shoul
d the firewall be glued to the vertical members? Which is best, adequate, or
just OK?
By the way, I am not too worried about weight because this is a SkyScout, si
ngle place with an A-65; therefore the 1/4" firewall.
Jim Boyer and his friend Jim were just here for a great lunch, visit and vie
wing of my build progress. All visitors are welcome. Plane to start covering
this fall.
Thanks,
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
> On Jul 10, 2014, at 11:43 AM, "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> w
rote:
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ty.org>
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> I'm with WW on this one. If you take a good look at how the Cont and Corva
ir engine mounts are constructed and the fact that they bolt directly to the
diagonal cabane strut mounts, it ties everything together with a lot of tri
angular structures. I don't think the upper longerons are carrying the load
s you think they are. The firewall is providing a large gusset, this will h
elp prevent diamonding the structure too. There are a lot of triangular stru
ctures involved there if you step back and look at it. Triangles are very st
rong.
>
> I don't have any degrees in engineering, but I do design engineering at wo
rk on a daily basis.
>
> My 3 cents,
>
> --------
> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
>
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| Subject: | Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal |
struts
Ray,
My galvanized firewall started out not being anchored to anything...then the
process of adding engine support stuff started! Eventually, I added pan head
screws around the perimeter since that's where the cowling is anchored to
the firewall. I think you're OK...
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: a common place to undersell
yourself---diagonal struts
In response to your comment about the firewall being so structurally
important: my firewall is 1/4" plywood with a stainless steel face plate. I
now have it bolted to the two upright members that join the top longerons
vertically. I use four AN-3 bolts through the firewall and the front
vertical members, threading into a plate nut. Would this be adequate for
strength, or should the firewall be glued to the vertical members? Which is
best, adequate, or just OK?
By the way, I am not too worried about weight because this is a SkyScout,
single place with an A-65; therefore the 1/4" firewall.
Jim Boyer and his friend Jim were just here for a great lunch, visit and
viewing of my build progress. All visitors are welcome. Plane to start
covering this fall.
Thanks,
Ray Krause
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| Subject: | Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal |
struts
While on the subject of firewalls, one thing I am very glad I added to mine
was a small opening large enough to get an arm through with a stainless
cover held on with short wood screws. Very handy when you need to
attach/detach a fuel line or cable/spring to the front rudder pedals, etc.
rh
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Ray,
>
> My galvanized firewall started out not being anchored to anything...then
> the
> process of adding engine support stuff started! Eventually, I added pan
> head
> screws around the perimeter since that's where the cowling is anchored to
> the firewall. I think you're OK...
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:12 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: a common place to undersell
> yourself---diagonal struts
>
> In response to your comment about the firewall being so structurally
> important: my firewall is 1/4" plywood with a stainless steel face plate. I
> now have it bolted to the two upright members that join the top longerons
> vertically. I use four AN-3 bolts through the firewall and the front
> vertical members, threading into a plate nut. Would this be adequate for
> strength, or should the firewall be glued to the vertical members? Which is
> best, adequate, or just OK?
>
> By the way, I am not too worried about weight because this is a SkyScout,
> single place with an A-65; therefore the 1/4" firewall.
>
> Jim Boyer and his friend Jim were just here for a great lunch, visit and
> viewing of my build progress. All visitors are welcome. Plane to start
> covering this fall.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray Krause
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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| Subject: | Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal |
struts
Don=99t I wish I had that two weeks ago, making some changes to
the forward rudder pedals!!!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Holland
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: a common place to undersell
yourself---diagonal struts
While on the subject of firewalls, one thing I am very glad I added to
mine was a small opening large enough to get an arm through with a
stainless cover held on with short wood screws. Very handy when you need
to attach/detach a fuel line or cable/spring to the front rudder pedals,
etc.
rh
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
wrote:
<gboothe5@comcast.net>
Ray,
My galvanized firewall started out not being anchored to anything...then
the
process of adding engine support stuff started! Eventually, I added pan
head
screws around the perimeter since that's where the cowling is anchored
to
the firewall. I think you're OK...
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray
Krause
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: a common place to undersell
yourself---diagonal struts
In response to your comment about the firewall being so structurally
important: my firewall is 1/4" plywood with a stainless steel face
plate. I
now have it bolted to the two upright members that join the top
longerons
vertically. I use four AN-3 bolts through the firewall and the front
vertical members, threading into a plate nut. Would this be adequate for
strength, or should the firewall be glued to the vertical members? Which
is
best, adequate, or just OK?
By the way, I am not too worried about weight because this is a
SkyScout,
single place with an A-65; therefore the 1/4" firewall.
Jim Boyer and his friend Jim were just here for a great lunch, visit and
viewing of my build progress. All visitors are welcome. Plane to start
covering this fall.
Thanks,
Ray Krause
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Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Re: Landing gear about finished |
I did add in the 2 degrees of camber like the plans call for... I don't know if
that will be enough, time will tell.. I think I will wait to finish weld the
struts until after I mount the engine. I have a lot of room to extend or shorten
them where they enter the 1 inch tube that comes out of the spring housing.
I also considered building the center a frame like the cub gear so the offset
of the struts wouldn't be necessary, but decided against it.
I wound up with a pretty good offset at the wheel end of the struts but I
think it will be Ok...
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| Subject: | Airventure Latex Paint Forums |
Hello Piet friends, If you are attending Airventure 2014 in Oshkosh, stop in for
one of the Latex Paint for Aircraft forums. I have some updates to last years
forum and the webinar, and it should be fun and informative. My Piet is still
not done so I will be flying the Tripacer out to Brodhead and Oshkosh with a
friend this year . Hope to see you there!
- Monday, July 28, 11:30-12:45 in the Forum 1 building
- Wednesday, July 30, 10:00-11:15 in the Forum 6 building
Malcolm Morrison http://wienerdogaero.com
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| Subject: | Re: FYI Aluminum Strut Sizes |
Looks like there are three sizes, small, large and heavy duty. Is the small sufficiently
strong enough to use for lift struts?
Also on the topic of lift struts, why are steel airfoil ones from ACS so expensive
compared to these?
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Hellooooo Good People!
I have not been following the list very closely as of late, I have been a super
busy Band Mom, but I got the weekend off and will be able to join my dear sweet
husband at Brodhead this year! I am very excited, and am curious to know who
i am going to get to see!
We will arrive on Thursday (with a repeat offender at Brodhead) in tow, and will
stay until Sunday.
--------
Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2014 |
Fantastic! Looking forward to seeing y'all there!
I should be flying the little yellow plastic plane there on thursday or fri
day - if anyone is interested in doing some air-to-air photography of thei
r plane - I'm all up for it! Maybe Contact! needs another Piet on the cove
r :)
Cheers
Jonathan Apfelbaum
-----Original Message-----
From: IT Girl <shlizbth@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Jul 10, 2014 7:26 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2014
Hellooooo Good People!
I have not been following the list very closely as of late, I have been a s
uper
busy Band Mom, but I got the weekend off and will be able to join my dear s
weet
husband at Brodhead this year! I am very excited, and am curious to know w
ho i
am going to get to see!
We will arrive on Thursday (with a repeat offender at Brodhead) in tow, and
will
stay until Sunday.
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Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2014 |
My son and I are planning on flying our Sonex from Denver to Reedsburg, WI on July
26th, then getting up early and head down to Brodhead either Saturday late
afternoon or Sunday morning for a few hours. Then up to OSH at noon for the
big show.
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2014 |
John, I just got a new camera and was hoping to go up to get some great pictures
of Loensloe... among the other beautiful planes... so I will take you up on
it. Please some see us in the cove on Thursday night before everything get so
busy.
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Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2014 |
I will be arriving either Wednesday evening or Thursday morning and then leaving
for Oshkosh on Sunday. Will be flying the tripacer.
Rick Schreiber
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On Jul 10, 2014, at 8:25 PM, "IT Girl" <shlizbth@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hellooooo Good People!
>
> I have not been following the list very closely as of late, I have been a super
busy Band Mom, but I got the weekend off and will be able to join my dear sweet
husband at Brodhead this year! I am very excited, and am curious to know
who i am going to get to see!
>
> We will arrive on Thursday (with a repeat offender at Brodhead) in tow, and will
stay until Sunday.
>
> --------
> Shelley Tumino
> IT Girl
> wife of "Axel"
> NX899KP
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=426471#426471
>
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2014 |
Weather depending, I will be arriving Thursday evening with my son, Kevin,
in the Pacer. We'll be staying through Sunday morning, camping on the
field. Cheers, Ken
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Rick <lmforge@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> I will be arriving either Wednesday evening or Thursday morning and then
> leaving for Oshkosh on Sunday. Will be flying the tripacer.
>
> Rick Schreiber
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 10, 2014, at 8:25 PM, "IT Girl" <shlizbth@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hellooooo Good People!
> >
> > I have not been following the list very closely as of late, I have been
> a super busy Band Mom, but I got the weekend off and will be able to join
> my dear sweet husband at Brodhead this year! I am very excited, and am
> curious to know who i am going to get to see!
> >
> > We will arrive on Thursday (with a repeat offender at Brodhead) in tow,
> and will stay until Sunday.
> >
> > --------
> > Shelley Tumino
> > IT Girl
> > wife of "Axel"
> > NX899KP
> >
> > DO NOT ARCHIVE
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=426471#426471
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal |
struts
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| Subject: | Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal |
struts
Thanks, Gary. Nice to hear your support. I really don't want to add any more bolts
for fear of weakening the verticals between the top and bottom longerons.
Just sent a picture of the firewall, you can see the four bolts in the picture.
Sure enjoyed having Jim here today.
Ray
Sent from my iPad
> On Jul 10, 2014, at 4:32 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> Ray,
>
> My galvanized firewall started out not being anchored to anything...then the
> process of adding engine support stuff started! Eventually, I added pan head
> screws around the perimeter since that's where the cowling is anchored to
> the firewall. I think you're OK...
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:12 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: a common place to undersell
> yourself---diagonal struts
>
> In response to your comment about the firewall being so structurally
> important: my firewall is 1/4" plywood with a stainless steel face plate. I
> now have it bolted to the two upright members that join the top longerons
> vertically. I use four AN-3 bolts through the firewall and the front
> vertical members, threading into a plate nut. Would this be adequate for
> strength, or should the firewall be glued to the vertical members? Which is
> best, adequate, or just OK?
>
> By the way, I am not too worried about weight because this is a SkyScout,
> single place with an A-65; therefore the 1/4" firewall.
>
> Jim Boyer and his friend Jim were just here for a great lunch, visit and
> viewing of my build progress. All visitors are welcome. Plane to start
> covering this fall.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray Krause
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