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1. 03:42 AM - Re: Brodhead 2014 (echobravo4)
2. 03:57 AM - Re: Brodhead 2014 (danhelsper@aol.com)
3. 04:29 AM - Re: Brodhead 2014 (Jack)
4. 04:45 AM - Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts (womenfly2)
5. 04:50 AM - Re: Brodhead 2014 (woodflier)
6. 06:13 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead 2014 (dog67@aol.com)
7. 06:24 AM - diagonals (Douwe Blumberg)
8. 07:38 AM - Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts (AircamperN11MS)
9. 08:19 AM - Re: Brodhead 2014 (PatrickW)
10. 10:36 AM - Re: Brodhead 2014 (john francis)
11. 03:40 PM - Re: Brodhead 2014 (Billy McCaskill)
12. 03:55 PM - Re: Re: Brodhead 2014 (Gary Boothe)
13. 04:13 PM - Re: Re: Brodhead 2014 (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
14. 05:14 PM - Re: Airventure Latex Paint Forums (womenfly2)
15. 07:19 PM - Re: Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts (Ray Krause)
16. 07:30 PM - Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts (AircamperN11MS)
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2014 |
That's great news!
Katrina and I will be getting in Thursday afternoon
and will be there 'till Sunday
Looking forward to seeing everybody!
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Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2014 |
Shelley,
Seeing that the G.Owen Loensloe machine is still held hostage over at Polar
Grove, I only have to fly the grueling 32 miles to get over to Brodhead so
metime on Thursday. Looking forward to seeing everyone!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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From: IT Girl <shlizbth@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Jul 10, 2014 8:26 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2014
Hellooooo Good People!
I have not been following the list very closely as of late, I have been a s
uper
busy Band Mom, but I got the weekend off and will be able to join my dear s
weet
husband at Brodhead this year! I am very excited, and am curious to know w
ho i
am going to get to see!
We will arrive on Thursday (with a repeat offender at Brodhead) in tow, and
will
stay until Sunday.
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Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2014 |
Shelley that is great news! We are planning a Thursday arrival and Saturday departure.
Hope you can join us at 11:30 Friday for the annual Bratfest. Will provide
details in another post. Everyone travel safe!
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
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busy Band Mom, but I got the weekend off and will be able to join my dear sweet
husband at Brodhead this year! I am very excited, and am curious to know
who i am going to get to see!
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stay until Sunday.
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> NX899KP
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| Subject: | Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts |
That is in a perfect impact with the wing moving forward and a compression load
on the fuselage brace I assume?
What happens when a twisting force is applied like a wing tip hitting first? The
fuselage bracket will shear sideways and the wing plane will twist down in a
helical vector.
All I was saying is that you cannot reinforce one area thinking that is will mitigated
all the forces. You need to look at the total system.
I know from first hand experience when our Piet flipped over on her back, hard
during a landing. We had heavy wall square diagonal braces with air-foiled shaped
spruce epoxied over it and it was rigidly bolt at both ends. I know what damage
was done, the ash motor support split, the firewall split down the middle,
the shelf aft of the motor split, and the top of the diagonal bracket support
where forced outward when the wing moved forward and took the weight of the
plane plus the impact forces. Quite a lot of damage.
So you need to do more the just strengthen up the diagonal brace. That was my point.
BTW, no damage was done to the diagonal support braces, they were still in-tacked,
just the support brackets they bolted to bent.
I am all about being safe and sharing my opinions too.
Cheers,
WF2
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| Subject: | RE: Brodhead 2014 |
Looks like I won't be making Brodhead this year. Long story short, my partn
ers and I have been trying to sell another airplane for several years, We h
ave a buyer but a lot of engine problems have turned up on the pre-buy and
I'll probably be knee deep in engine or hopefully delivering the airplane.
There's an outside posibllity of flying the Bellanca to the buyer in Kansas
the week of Brodhead and driving in but all the stars, and the cylinder sh
op will have to align.
Matt Paxton
NX629ML
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2014 |
Sounds good - look for yello glastar!
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From: IT Girl <shlizbth@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Jul 10, 2014 8:12 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead 2014
John, I just got a new camera and was hoping to go up to get some great pic
tures
f Loensloe... among the other beautiful planes... so I will take you up on
it.
lease some see us in the cove on Thursday night before everything get so bu
sy.
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helley Tumino
T Girl
ife of "Axel"
X899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Hello all,
My FAR less drastic experience with a sudden deceleration and nose-over
demonstrated the need for stronger diagonals than I had at the time. While
the plane was maybe going 25mpg on the ground, the wing still displaced
about two inches forward upon deceleration. My hard fuel lines actually
held (with ace hardware compression fittings, thank you very much) except
for a little leak. Nothing was damaged on the engine mount whatsoever, yet
a bit more displacement and my fuel lines would have been torn and fuel
would be spilling out.
I now have very strong diagonals and the top portion of each line going to
the tank is flexible.
I am sure there is a point at which the engine mount will "tear out" of the
longeron, but I'll bet that there are many incidents short of that occurance
which would dangerously displace the wing if the diagonals are too puny.
AND. what do we possibly lose by beefing them up??? A few ounces??? This is
NOT the place to be saving weight!!
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts |
Ray,
It sounds to me like Gary gave you great direction. The 1/4 inch firewall will
be strong. Please keep moving forward. I can't wait to see it next June. :)
WF2,
Thanks for your input too. This is a great sounding board and everyone's thoughts
and comments very much appreciated. Because of this website, we have a lot
of great, safe and beautiful Piets being built by some very talented folks.
We have a lot of very smart people on this board. Including you.
Keep on building,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2014 |
I plan on flying down on Thursday, weather permitting.
Patrick Hoyt
N63PZ - CH601/Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2014 |
I plan to arrive sometime Thursday afternoon with my travel trailer. Will stay
until Sunday morning.
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John Francis
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2014 |
Sadly, I am not able to make it this year due to some ongoing health issues that
I'm trying to get resolved. There is a bit of good news in this, the money
I had set aside for the trip to Brodhead will be used to buy some spruce so that
I can resume building my Piet after a 3+ year interruption due to moving twice.
Hopefully I will make the journey next year!
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Billy McCaskill
Baker, LA
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2014 |
Billy,
Stay home. Be well. Build airplanes.
Gary
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 11, 2014, at 3:40 PM, "Billy McCaskill" <billmz@cox.net> wrote:
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I'm trying to get resolved. There is a bit of good news in this, the money
I had set aside for the trip to Brodhead will be used to buy some spruce so
that I can resume building my Piet after a 3+ year interruption due to moving
twice.
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> Billy McCaskill
> Baker, LA
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2014 |
I have an offer to coach the Swedish Bikini Volleyball team this summer so
I'll be missing Brodhead as well.
Carry on good people!
Mike C.
Ohio
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| Subject: | Re: Airventure Latex Paint Forums |
I do hope your forum is on a Webinar or on YouTube. I so enjoy the last one and
looking forward to your next with even more great information on using latex
house paints.
Thanks for doing this education topic.
WF2
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| Subject: | Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal |
struts
Thanks, Scott. I have hopes of getting covered this fall. Who knows, I could be
to the fly in next year!
I do not know WF2, Women Who Fly; or do I? Sure appreciate your comments, you have
a lot of good advise.
Thanks,
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
> On Jul 11, 2014, at 7:38 AM, "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote:
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be strong. Please keep moving forward. I can't wait to see it next June. :)
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> Thanks for your input too. This is a great sounding board and everyone's thoughts
and comments very much appreciated. Because of this website, we have a
lot of great, safe and beautiful Piets being built by some very talented folks.
We have a lot of very smart people on this board. Including you.
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> Keep on building,
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> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts |
Ray
WF2 has left some thoughts to consider too. I have not met WF2 either but I sure
love looking at their Piet pics. It's just got a good look. I hope to see it
someday.
Thanks for the nice words,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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