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1. 04:40 AM - Bratfest IV (Jack)
2. 05:38 AM - fly-ins (Douwe Blumberg)
3. 05:44 AM - the cover of Contact! Magazine (taildrags)
4. 06:56 AM - Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 (DonkDoug)
5. 07:40 AM - Re: the cover of Contact! Magazine (dog67@aol.com)
6. 07:43 AM - Kit from Aircraft Spruce (Pocono John)
7. 07:48 AM - Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 (William Wynne)
8. 09:33 AM - Re: fly-ins (gcardinal@comcast.net)
9. 11:08 AM - Re: fly-ins (woodflier)
10. 11:35 AM - Corvair College (wheelharp)
11. 11:56 AM - Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 (DonkDoug)
12. 12:26 PM - Ooooops - well we all make misteasks..... (aerocarjake)
13. 12:41 PM - Re: Ooooops - well we all make misteasks..... (Gary Boothe)
14. 01:04 PM - Re: Ooooops - well we all make misteasks..... (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
15. 02:32 PM - Re: Corvair College (Mike McGowan)
16. 02:50 PM - Re: Corvair College (William Wynne)
17. 03:37 PM - Re: Ooooops - well we all make misteasks..... (Steven Dortch)
18. 04:15 PM - Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 (William Wynne)
19. 04:26 PM - Re: fly-ins (Robert Bush)
20. 05:26 PM - Re: Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 (John Franklin)
21. 05:33 PM - Re: Kit from Aircraft Spruce (fastj22)
22. 06:44 PM - Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 (DonkDoug)
23. 06:49 PM - Re: Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 (Robert Gow)
24. 07:13 PM - Kid's first Pietenpol ride (Boatright, Jeffrey)
25. 08:01 PM - Speaking of latex drying (Steven Dortch)
26. 08:28 PM - Re: Speaking of latex drying (Steven Dortch)
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Piet friends, Susan and I are looking forward to hosting lunch at Brodhead
Friday, July 25, 11:30 to 12:30. We will be located on the SE edge of the
field by the white fence.
http://www.eaa431.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/C37-Fly-In-Diagram.jpg We
will have a 100 brats, salad, chips and watermelon. When they are gone, the
y are gone.
Please bring a drink and chair. Look for the 45 foot brown and black Thor
diesel. Looking forward to it, let's hope for great weather! We will be
arriving Thursday departing Saturday AM.
Jack & Susan
Five One Five 490-5177
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
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Doing an informal head count, it appears as if Brodhead might be light of
planes this year. Sounds like some of the "regulars" (Mikee, Jack,
Perkins??, aren't able to make it. darn!
Sounds like, Greg, Dan, me, hopefully another black and yellow bird?, one or
two Pavliga's, hopefully Don??? Who am I missing
Is Matt flying in? Randy?
Douwe
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| Subject: | the cover of Contact! Magazine |
I owe an apology to Jon Apfelbaum, truly. We are on a dive trip out of the country
at the moment and I have dozens of emails to catch up on (wi-fi is spotty
down here), but I am remiss in not giving Jon the credit for the cover photo
on the anniversary edition of the magazine. We knew it would be one of Jon's
photos on the cover the minute we saw some of the shots that he took in the photo
shoot of Dan's airplane.
The photo is one in a series that pilot and photographer took, so if the photo
looks familiar, just pull out your 2012 EAA calendar and you'll see a similar
photo but the two are different. Our thanks to Jon for making this special issue
of the magazine what it is, and definitely something that will be around for
many years to come. Perhaps Jon will agree to start working on the cover for
the 100th anniversary issue-?
There are one or two other of Jon's photos in the magazine, including one of Matt
Paxton swinging the hand-carved prop on Dan's airplane.
It's raining outside at the moment, but they tell me it doesn't matter if you get
wet when you're scuba diving ;o)
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 |
William,
I got out my copy of Harry Riblett's GA Airfoils this morning before I went to
work and it looks like for a cruise lift coefficient of .55 the angle of attack
for his GA30-612 is around one degree positive. Looking at the ordinates for
this airfoil and assuming a wing is constructed with the front spar at 12% of
the chord and the rear spar at 60% of the chord, as Mr. Pietenpol designed it,
I calculated the front cabane should be 1/2 inch shorter than the rear cabane
to achieve this one degree positive angle of attack. This assumes that the
builder constructs the wing with the ribs butted into the bottom of the spars.
Doug Wright
Stillwater, OK
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| Subject: | Re: the cover of Contact! Magazine |
All good, Oscar ;) Just glad to help out.
If anyone is interested - I'm always up for shooting more pictures and woul
d love to get more air-to-air shots of Piet's at Brodhead :)
I'm just jealous that you are getting to go diving ;)
Cheers
Jon
-----Original Message-----
From: taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Mon, Jul 14, 2014 6:45 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: the cover of Contact! Magazine
I owe an apology to Jon Apfelbaum, truly. We are on a dive trip out of the
country at the moment and I have dozens of emails to catch up on (wi-fi is
spotty down here), but I am remiss in not giving Jon the credit for the cov
er
photo on the anniversary edition of the magazine. We knew it would be one
of
Jon's photos on the cover the minute we saw some of the shots that he took
in
the photo shoot of Dan's airplane.
The photo is one in a series that pilot and photographer took, so if the ph
oto
looks familiar, just pull out your 2012 EAA calendar and you'll see a simil
ar
photo but the two are different. Our thanks to Jon for making this special
issue of the magazine what it is, and definitely something that will be aro
und
for many years to come. Perhaps Jon will agree to start working on the cov
er
for the 100th anniversary issue-?
There are one or two other of Jon's photos in the magazine, including one o
f
Matt Paxton swinging the hand-carved prop on Dan's airplane.
It's raining outside at the moment, but they tell me it doesn't matter if y
ou
get wet when you're scuba diving ;o)
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Kit from Aircraft Spruce |
Did anyone buy it? Thumbs up or down? Buy in stages?
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John
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 |
Ray,
I will be glad to submit the rigging data to the newsletter, and one of the guys
can also put it here on this list. When Ryan and I did the CG work several years
ago, it all went directly into the newsletter for everyone to use. This list
latter played a role in getting new builders to understand the CG info and
know where to get it in printed form from Doc Mosher. Those articles are longer,
and were best introduced in a lasting printed format, the rigging info will
be comparatively brief and easier to share.
Just as with the CG stuff, the information is just a contribution to the Piet community,
for builders of all power plants to use. I spent about $70K at Embry-Riddle
and our home is literally lined with bookshelves filled with technical
aviation books going back to the 1920s, all of this was money well spent with
the goal of learning more about flight. But still, I can say that at least half
of everything I have learned about planes in 25 years came from experienced
people who just wanted to share what they new with others, the only price to
be paid was being willing to listen, consider and learn.
In contrast to all the other social graces I lack, I have always been respectful
and grateful to anyone who is teaching me anything. Still, looking back, it
is easy to identify countless times that I failed to fully appreciate the depth
or impact some information would later have on my understanding. Most of the
men I would like to go back and thank again, are gone now. I am left with emulating
their method of sharing what they knew as the only way I can express my
gratitude. I learned a lot from many good men, I have a large personal debt to
pay, I expect it to take the rest of my life.
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A link to a story about learning from people who are not 'pleasant' to you:
http://flycorvair.net/2014/02/24/erau-models-of-integrity-2/
A link to a story about how different leadership in Aviation is from the corporate
world:
http://flycorvair.net/2014/02/24/erau-models-of-integrity-3/
A link to a story about uncompromising standards:
http://flycorvair.net/2014/02/23/erau-models-of-integrity/
A link to a story about the man who defines "Aero-Engineer":
http://flycorvair.net/2014/02/25/erau-models-of-integrity-4/
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Bob Poore will be there.
Another possibility will be Ryan Kallenbach's corvair powered Pietenpol. Th
is one has not been to Brodhead yet and might come down on Friday.
=C2-
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 7:43:34 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: fly-ins
Doing an informal head count, it appears as if Brodhead might be light of p
lanes this year.=C2- Sounds like some of the =9Cregulars=9D (
Mikee, Jack, Perkins??, aren=99t able to make it darn!
=C2-
Sounds like, Greg, Dan, me, hopefully another black and yellow bird?, one o
r two Pavliga=99s, hopefully Don??? Who am I missing
=C2-
Is Matt flying in?=C2- Randy?
=C2-
Douwe
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Douwe, I'm not going to be able to make Brodhead this year. I'm in partners
hip in another airplane which we've sold but the pre-buy inspection discove
red some engine problems, and that is going to keep me here in Virginia dea
ling with that. Next year for sure!
Matt
-----Original Message-----
From: Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Sent: Mon, Jul 14, 2014 8:38 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: fly-ins
Doing an informal head count, it appears as if Brodhead might be light of p
lanes this year. Sounds like some of the =9Cregulars=9D (Mikee
, Jack, Perkins??, aren=99t able to make it darn!
Sounds like, Greg, Dan, me, hopefully another black and yellow bird?, one o
r two Pavliga=99s, hopefully Don??? Who am I missing
Is Matt flying in? Randy?
Douwe
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Anyone going to Corvair College in Mexico, MO in September?
I'm planning on going, and taking a core to tear down.
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Jon Jones
Ironton, MO
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 |
William,
At lunch time today I ran the Riblett 30-612 airfoil data through a two dimensional
analysis software that is, from what I understand, more reliable than the
Eppler code Mr. Riblett used back in the day. At a Reynolds number appropriate
for 75 mph cruise speeds and a 60" chord it gives an angle of attack of 1.104
degrees for a cruise lift coefficient of .55. The Eppler code and my eyeballing
the CL off of Mr. Riblett's graph must have been close. When you do the
calculations, the front cabanes should be .45" shorter than the rear cabanes based
on these values.
Doug Wright
Stillwater, OK
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| Subject: | Ooooops - well we all make misteasks..... |
Hello good Piet-ple,
I had a friend come over yesterday and we planned to remove one of my four wing
spars - because it was "cupped" from when the original gentleman had built it.
So we got out my small no-kerf pull saws and carefully took to sawing out the spar
at each location where it was attached to the ribs. Then we cut the spar itself
in lots of pieces to carefully remove the spar itself...... AND THEN I REALIZED
WE WERE CUTTING OUT ONE OF THE GOOD SPARS...!
Oh well, we then cut out the "cupped" rear spar in the other wing. The only good
news about all of this is that I plan to rout pockets in the new spars so the
new rear spars should be a bit lighter....!
Such are the ups and downs of homebuilt airplane "progress" :-)
Jake
Attached is a photo of the second, cupped spar in pieces as we were carefully removing
it......
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Ooooops - well we all make misteasks..... |
Jake,
Well, I guess it was good experience, in preparation for the spar that counts!
I know your pain as I had to replace a spar last year. I was very glad that I did
not glue my ribs to the spar!
Gary
NX308MB
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 14, 2014, at 12:26 PM, "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello good Piet-ple,
>
> I had a friend come over yesterday and we planned to remove one of my four wing
spars - because it was "cupped" from when the original gentleman had built
it.
>
> So we got out my small no-kerf pull saws and carefully took to sawing out the
spar at each location where it was attached to the ribs. Then we cut the spar
itself in lots of pieces to carefully remove the spar itself...... AND THEN I
REALIZED WE WERE CUTTING OUT ONE OF THE GOOD SPARS...!
>
> Oh well, we then cut out the "cupped" rear spar in the other wing. The only good
news about all of this is that I plan to rout pockets in the new spars so
the new rear spars should be a bit lighter....!
>
> Such are the ups and downs of homebuilt airplane "progress" :-)
>
> Jake
>
> Attached is a photo of the second, cupped spar in pieces as we were carefully
removing it......
>
> --------
> Jake Schultz - curator,
> Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Ooooops - well we all make misteasks..... |
That's better than building two right or two left wings Jake but none the l
ess, feel your frustration.
Mike C.
Ohio
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair College |
I am Mike McGowan Hallsville Mo I'm available to help
-----Original Message-----
From: wheelharp
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 1:31 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair College
Anyone going to Corvair College in Mexico, MO in September?
I'm planning on going, and taking a core to tear down.
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Jon Jones
Ironton, MO
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair College |
Jon,
I wanted to point out to everyone that the sign up pages and information sheets
for both Corvair College #30 and #31 can be found at this link:
http://flycorvair.net/2014/06/19/corvair-college-30-and-31-sign-up-now-open/
Pietenpol builders should feel more than welcome at #30, even though it is being
held September 16-19 at the Zenith factory in Mexico MO. Sebastien Heintz, president
of Zenith is a friend of ours, and he always points out that all homebuilders
are welcome at any event at his facility, not just Zenith customers.
I have not looked at the sign up sheet closely (it is taken care of online by
Ken Pavlou), but the event was 50% full last week, and we usually have a number
of Piet builders at every college.
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College #31 is November 7-9 at Barnwell SC, with Pietenpol builder and flyer PF
Beck and crew. Pietenpols are well represented at Barnwell events, and Don Harper's
plane is based there as well.
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Kevin Purtee and Shelley Tumino, aka "Axle and the IT-girl" , who will be at Brodhead,
hosted Colleges #28 and #22 in Texas. We had a good turn out of Piet builders
at both, because the local hosts always tend to draw a lot of builders
from their own group of aviation friends who are working on the same airframe.
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| Subject: | Re: Ooooops - well we all make misteasks..... |
Jake, thanks! I was moaning about what a bad day I was having. Then I got
your email.
After sawing through a 1x1 that was part of a mapshelf John Kuhfahl put in
(to make room for my shins) I suddenly had a heart attack that I had sawn
through a structural member. I could not find this structural member on the
plans or in any photos. Then John told me 'No that is not structural! just
a shelf." So I understand, sort of.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 2:26 PM, aerocarjake <flight.jake@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
>
> Hello good Piet-ple,
>
> I had a friend come over yesterday and we planned to remove one of my four
> wing spars - because it was "cupped" from when the original gentleman had
> built it.
>
> So we got out my small no-kerf pull saws and carefully took to sawing out
> the spar at each location where it was attached to the ribs. Then we cut
> the spar itself in lots of pieces to carefully remove the spar itself......
> AND THEN I REALIZED WE WERE CUTTING OUT ONE OF THE GOOD SPARS...!
>
> Oh well, we then cut out the "cupped" rear spar in the other wing. The
> only good news about all of this is that I plan to rout pockets in the new
> spars so the new rear spars should be a bit lighter....!
>
> Such are the ups and downs of homebuilt airplane "progress" :-)
>
> Jake
>
> Attached is a photo of the second, cupped spar in pieces as we were
> carefully removing it......
>
> --------
> Jake Schultz - curator,
> Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=426657#426657
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/removing_cupped_spar_345.jpg
>
>
--
Blue Skies,
Steve D
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 |
Doug,
That is some very good detective work. I strongly suspected that using the angle
of incidence in the plans would be over doing it, your notes confirm this. When
we go through the measurements at Brodhead, there will be more to learn. If
you also have the ability to run the BHP airfoil through the same simulation,
I would be very interested in seeing it, and then checking it against anything
we can field test.
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Does anyone know how many Riblett -airfoiled Piets are flying? I would be very
interested in hearing from pilots who are, what their cabane lengths are, and
what their rigging data looks like. We could include all of that information with
the Brodhead information, and hopefully have hard information builders to
use in planning their plane or tuning the one they are flying.
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When we first started flying my Piet it only did 73 mph flat out. reworked many
things on the plane in the following year, and raised the top speed to 105 mph.
The plane was pretty well mannered and normal between 55-90 mph, but from 90
and up it lost some pitch stability. Flying at high speed puts the wing at a
very low angle of attack, runs the fuselage nose down, and make the stabilizer
run at an odd angle to the line of flight. There are limits to every combination,
but within the a wide speed range it is possible to fine tune the plane
to fly pretty well.
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Many years ago the KR-2 community looked at the same ideas, the designs original
airfoil was an RAF-48 set at a 3.5 degree incidence, This worked ok with a 1600
cc VW and modest cruise, but it produced poor stability and odd rigging problems
when the plane had the potential of cruising 30% faster. Some builders
switched to a different airfoil, but as a general rule, all the people using more
powerful engines decreased the angle of incidence in the wing. It is considered
a great improvement on faster planes.
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Took my last flight in my Pietenpol 13 years ago today. I have been trough all
four stages of Pietenpol-hood, dreaming of one, building one, having one , and
wishing I still had one. I bought my plans from Don in the spring of 1989, and
I used to devour every word in the old Piet newsletters, both the ones from
Ohio (BPN) and the ones from Iowa.(International Piet news). For my first few
years, everyone I was friends with in homebuilding was a Pietenpol person, and
I lived under a very pleasant illusion that everyone in homebuilding was probably
as nice as Pietenpol people. Working in the industry for all these years
has brought us many friends, but has also revealed that the Pietenpol building
community are a very rare oasis of salt of the earth people, and for reasons
I still can't articulately explain 25 years later, I still think of Pietenpols
as my home in homebuilding. -ww.
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I plan on being there in my Piet, weather permitting. If not I will come wit
h my dad in the camper
Randy Bush
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On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:43 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> w
rote:
> Doing an informal head count, it appears as if Brodhead might be light of p
lanes this year. Sounds like some of the =9Cregulars=9D (Mikee,
Jack, Perkins??, aren=99t able to make it darn!
>
> Sounds like, Greg, Dan, me, hopefully another black and yellow bird?, one o
r two Pavliga=99s, hopefully Don??? Who am I missing
>
> Is Matt flying in? Randy?
>
> Douwe
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 |
William,
I can't technically comment on airfoils but didn't P.F. Beck and another gentleman
at Barnwell make a detailed comparison of the Riblett and other Piet airfoil
sometime in the last couple of years?
See y'all at Brodhead,
John Franklin
GN-1 / 164cid Corvair (under construction)
Prairie Aire 4TA0
Needville, TX
-----Original Message-----
>From: William Wynne <WilliamTCA@aol.com>
>Sent: Jul 14, 2014 6:14 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014
>
>----------------------------------------------------------
>
>Does anyone know how many Riblett -airfoiled Piets are flying? I would be very
interested in hearing from pilots who are, what their cabane lengths are, and
what their rigging data looks like. We could include all of that information
with the Brodhead information, and hopefully have hard information builders to
use in planning their plane or tuning the one they are flying.
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| Subject: | Re: Kit from Aircraft Spruce |
I've had the wing kit on order for 3 weeks. No response from ACS about an estimated
ship date.
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 |
William,
I ran the polars a few years ago for Mr. Pietenpol's airfoil and have them on my
computer at work. I'll print them off tomorrow (if I can find them) and will
bring them to Oshkosh. I believe one of the Reynolds number I ran was appropriate
for 75 mph cruise, but will verify this. If not, I will run them again.
It should be interesting to compare the real world, empirical data you collect
at Brodhead versus the theoretical values the software comes up with.
I remember a few years ago reading on this forum of a gentleman named Lowell Frank
who had a Riblett 30-612 on his Piet. I also (vaguely) recall he had either
equal length cabanes or front cabanes one inch longer than the rear and that
he had to apply forward stick pressure at cruise and higher speeds. If I
am remembering this correctly it makes me suspect my calculations are correct
in that the front cabanes should be shorter than the rear by 1/2 of an inch in
order to establish an appropriate angle of incidence for
this airfoil on a Piet at cruising speeds.
Doug Wright
Stillwater, OK
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 |
Original Message
From: DonkDoug
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 21:45
Reply To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014
William,
I ran the polars a few years ago for Mr. Pietenpol's airfoil and have them on my
computer at work. I'll print them off tomorrow (if I can find them) and will
bring them to Oshkosh. I believe one of the Reynolds number I ran was appropriate
for 75 mph cruise, but will verify this. If not, I will run them again. It
should be interesting to compare the real world, empirical data you collect
at Brodhead versus the theoretical values the software comes up with.
I remember a few years ago reading on this forum of a gentleman named Lowell Frank
who had a Riblett 30-612 on his Piet. I also (vaguely) recall he had either
equal length cabanes or front cabanes one inch longer than the rear and that
he had to apply forward stick pressure at cruise and higher speeds. If I am remembering
this correctly it makes me suspect my calculations are correct in that
the front cabanes should be shorter than the rear by 1/2 of an inch in order
to establish an appropriate angle of incidence for
this airfoil on a Piet at cruising speeds.
Doug Wright
Stillwater, OK
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=426686#426686
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| Subject: | Kid's first Pietenpol ride |
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| Subject: | Speaking of latex drying |
I am about to paint the wings. I have them on a cradle with wheels. It holds
both wings nose down with two straps across the leading edges. They lean
together against a foam "noodle" about 3/4 back on the chord.
My plan is to spray paint the top starting about 16 inches back from the
leading edge. then when "dry" I will rotaten them and do the bottoms. Then
when dry I will set it on a couple of tables to spray the leading edges.
The high quality sherwin williams DTM latex (acrylic) paint I am using
says it is dry to the touch in 30 min to an hour. tack free in 2-4 hours,
and to recoat in 2-4 hours. It cures in 30 days.
How long should I wait before I can lean the newly painted surface against
the noodle? How about putting the leading edge back down into the cradle?
Are there any other tips yall have? IE how do I fill the inspection holes
so I can spray around them?
Blue Skies,
Steve D
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| Subject: | Re: Speaking of latex drying |
And Yes I have watched Malcolm's Latex painting seminar. Learned a lot.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I am about to paint the wings. I have them on a cradle with wheels. It
> holds both wings nose down with two straps across the leading edges. They
> lean together against a foam "noodle" about 3/4 back on the chord.
>
>
> My plan is to spray paint the top starting about 16 inches back from the
> leading edge. then when "dry" I will rotaten them and do the bottoms. Then
> when dry I will set it on a couple of tables to spray the leading edges.
>
>
> The high quality sherwin williams DTM latex (acrylic) paint I am using
> says it is dry to the touch in 30 min to an hour. tack free in 2-4 hours,
> and to recoat in 2-4 hours. It cures in 30 days.
>
>
> How long should I wait before I can lean the newly painted surface against
> the noodle? How about putting the leading edge back down into the cradle?
>
>
> Are there any other tips yall have? IE how do I fill the inspection holes
> so I can spray around them?
>
>
> Blue Skies,
>
> Steve D
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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Blue Skies,
Steve D
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