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1. 12:14 AM - Re: Annual Progress Report (dog67@aol.com)
2. 04:19 AM - FBG 2.0 (Douwe Blumberg)
3. 05:41 AM - Re: Annual Progress Report (AircamperN11MS)
4. 05:43 AM - Re: Annual Progress Report (echobravo4)
5. 05:58 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 (Michael Perez)
6. 05:58 AM - Flying with an uncovered Fuselage (AircamperN11MS)
7. 07:36 AM - Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 (William Wynne)
8. 08:30 AM - Re: Re: Annual Progress Report (shad bell)
9. 08:54 AM - Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 (DonkDoug)
10. 09:23 AM - fill & bleeding brakes on kolb (barry9315)
11. 09:25 AM - Re: Annual Progress Report (kevinpurtee)
12. 09:52 AM - Re: latex (Steven Dortch)
13. 09:55 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 (Michael Perez)
14. 10:10 AM - Re: Annual Progress Reports (Jim Boyer)
15. 10:18 AM - Re: Annual Progress Report (Jim Boyer)
16. 10:56 AM - Re: Annual Progress Report (kevinpurtee)
17. 11:05 AM - Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 (nightmare)
18. 12:06 PM - Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 (DonkDoug)
19. 01:00 PM - Re: Re: Annual Progress Report (Jim Boyer)
20. 01:59 PM - Re: Re: Annual Progress Report (Gene Rambo)
21. 02:24 PM - Re: Re: Annual Progress Report (Gary Boothe)
22. 06:27 PM - No Content (Jack)
23. 06:51 PM - Re: Trip to Brodhead (IT Girl)
24. 07:38 PM - Re: No Content (gliderx5@comcast.net)
25. 07:49 PM - Re: ###4th FLIGHT### (Chris Rusch)
26. 07:55 PM - Re: fill & bleeding brakes on kolb (tools)
27. 08:01 PM - Re: No Content (Gary Boothe)
28. 09:50 PM - Re: Brodhead light this year (oakesje)
29. 09:53 PM - Re: ###4th FLIGHT### (William Wynne)
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| Subject: | Re: Annual Progress Report |
Looks fantastic!
Great job!
Jon A
-----Original Message-----
From: kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Sent: Tue, Jul 15, 2014 8:02 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Annual Progress Report
il>
Shelley took these photos for me tonight. Tried to get the airplane into t
he
driveway but it wouldn't fit under the garage door. Sorry for the photogra
phic
clutter.
Several things are not apparent in the photos. The flight controls are don
e.
The rigging and controls for the tail are complete. The brakes are done.
We're
getting ready to install the motor. The woodworking on the wings is done a
nd
they're stored at the hangar.
What's left: install the motor, rig the wings and get the wings struts, cov
er.
Looking to make Brodhead '16.
See you next week.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
Rebuilding NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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Kevin, YOU ARE DA MAN!
I think everyone's collective "hat" is off to you sir for your resolution
and speed with which you've created another masterpiece.
See you next week, WX permitting.
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Annual Progress Report |
Kevin and Shelly,
Beautiful, Just beautiful. It's a shame you have to cover it. Are you going to
use the same colors? I hope you do. Those colors remind me of mine before I
changed it to green. Sometimes I wish I had kept the old colors.
Keep up the good work,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Annual Progress Report |
Awesome work guys!
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Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 |
"...the weight of the plane in order to calculate an appropriate cruise lif
t coefficient..." =0A=0ADoug, if I am reading your quote above correctly, a
re you saying that given that I am building my plane with the 30-612 airfoi
l, if I gave you the weight of my plane, you could, in theory, calculate th
e "correct" length cabanes for it?- I would be more than interested in th
is because my wing is the 30-612 and I plan on doing an initial W&B this su
mmer. I am curious as to what numbers you would come up with for my particu
lar plane.- As the plane sits right now, all cabanes are the same length.
I would like to know what the "in theory" lengths would be.- Any further
assistance would be appreciated.=0A=0A=0AThis has been a great thread for
me and once again, very timely.=0A=0A-=0AIf God is your co-pilot, switch
seats=0AMike Perez=0AKaretaker Aero=0AFirst engine start complete!
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| Subject: | Flying with an uncovered Fuselage |
Gents,
The question has arisen again if someone has flown their Piet without fabric on
the fuselage. The short answer is yes. My plane has back in the late 1980's.
Just around the pattern one time at 350 feet MSL. Is it a safe thing to do?
NO it is not. DON'T do it or even consider it. With all the 85 horsepower and
a 145 lb pilot, it barely made it around the pattern.
There you have it. Yes, it has been done and DON'T even consider it. Not ever,
no how, no way. Never again with my plane.
There you have it, in a nut shell. Carry on, keep building and fly safe.
Seriously,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 |
Doug,
You should not let anyone in flying tick you off to that degree, and let me share
why: After 25 years of advocating learning about planes, specifically homebuilts,
let me share 2 insights: Mr. B-1966 is actually in the majority perspective
and more importantly, you may find his attitudes and values aggravating,
but they have little effect on how much you can adhere to and enjoy your own personal
code and path
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We all know that 99% of Americans, people who live in the land that invented flying,
won WWII with it, and used it as a stepping stone to the moon, want nothing
to do with light planes and are horrified by the concept of building anything
they would fly. But let's just look at pilots: 80% of pilots have no interest
in homebuilts, and have attitudes that make Mr.B sound open minded. This includes
'J-Mac' the head of EAA publications and about 90% of the management of
AOPA. I don't like this, and I complain about it when each of these organizations
wants my membership money, but it doesn't affect my personal path.
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About 80% of the Van's RV pilots I know openly say that no one should be allowed
to modify any RV design. This is an extension of the "Its perfect, you don't
even need to know how it works" mentality. One little problem with that: The
RV-1 was a modified Stitts Playboy, and if Ray Stitts had the same attitude there
never would be an RV anything today. Countless people have told me that VanGrunsven
holds and anti-modification bias, but I ask each one if they have ever
met him personally, the answer is invariably 'no'. I then point out that I
have spent many hours in a small, closed door,industry trade group chaired by
the man, and I might be in a better position to say what the man's line of thinking
is. This opens few minds, but it doesn't affect my personal path.
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80% of people who claim to be homebuilders, have little interest in learning, they
just want to 'have' the plane. Few of these people would consider building
their own engine, far less building one that has it's origins in the automotive
world. These people have a sadly shallow view of what an individual can accomplish,
skewed by their own unwillingness to learn things. I used to point out
things like the Wright's were homebuilders, that BHP only used car engines,
and every power plant is built by the hands of a person somewhere, but these points
are lost to the closed minded that don't view themselves as capable of learning
it, so they extend this to thinking that no one else could either, because
that would mean that other people would be smarter, know more, be more motivated
and skilled, and that is an uncomfortable thought for them. I find people
against alternative engines to be annoying but it doesn't affect my personal
path.
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I find it very ironic that people who champion individuality, private property,
and rights in their words on other subjects, quite frequently can be found telling
others, what they should be 'allowed' to build, what they should be 'allowed'
to do to a kit they have purchased, what power plants people should be 'allowed'
to use, and further lecturing other individuals on how they should spend
the hours in their lives in their own workshops, and even what to think about
homebuilts. I don't care what anyone else does with their hours, dollars and
thoughts. I share my ideas and perspectives, hope they might make sense to
some others, but I have no interest in telling others what they should be allowed
to do, own or think. The reality that aviation is filled with philosophical
hypocrites annoys me, but it doesn't affect my personal path.
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The personal belief that you can build something good with your own hands and fly
it, even if others around you are telling you that you will never achieve this,
did not originate with the EAA, it arguably goes back to the Wright brothers,
who adamantly rejected the mentality that planes could only be built in factories
run by professors like Langley. If BHP had listened to the people in
1928 that told him that his will to learn, design, and build were wasted, we would
have no Pietepol's today. Negative people have always been part of the landscape,
it will never change but it doesn't affect my personal path.
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In two weeks I will be manning my booth at Oshkosh, an event that started out as
a gathering of experimental aviators, who's actual creed was "Learn, Build and
Fly". I will politely smile when countless people will tell me they don't want
to learn anything, or build it, they just want to 'have' it. Can you guess
what personal mantra I silently repeat in my head while they talk?
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Idea for today: Go to you tube and listen to Johnny Cash's 1964 version of "The
ballad of Ira Hayes".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIt5v_3P_XA
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| Subject: | Re: Annual Progress Report |
What airfoil are your cabane struts?- Riblet or FC12?=0A=0AShad =0A=0A=0A
On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 8:49 AM, echobravo4 <eab4@comcast.net> wrote:
ast.net>=0A=0AAwesome work guys!=0A=0A--------=0AEarl Brown=0A=0AI may not
have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I inten
ded to be.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.ma
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 |
Mike,
I should have been more precise in my language and said the weight the aircraft
is operated at. As William Wynne demonstrated in his opening post to this thread
that value is used to determine the lift coefficient required at cruise.
And the resulting, required lift coefficient is used to determine the correct
length of cabanes based on the coefficient of lift v. angle of attack data generated
by the airfoil simulation software and the ordinates for the airfoil.
I dont know under what conditions you will operate your Piet when it is completed
but constructing the cabanes equal in length may be about right. Here in Oklahoma,
in the summer when most of the flying is done, we can have very hot,
humid days with air densities much less than the Standard Day density that as
been used in the calculations to this point. Add to that the fact we are not
at sea level and we can see density altitudes that would require, ideally, a higher
lift coefficient at cruise and other speeds. Equal length cabanes using
the Riblett 30-612 set the chord line at 2 degrees positive relative to the top
longeron of the airframe. In level flight that would result in a lift coefficient
of .67 according to my software analysis. That value is not unrealistic
at all as an appropriate cruising speed lift coefficient on a typical summer
day in Oklahoma. Regardless, setting the incidence a bit too positive does have
some benefit in creating profile lift from the fuselage, reducing the deck
angle when landing and so on.
I say use the cabanes you have built. It will probably fly great.
Doug Wright
Stillwater, OK
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| Subject: | fill & bleeding brakes on kolb |
How to fill & then bleed toe brakes on kolb mark 3 xtra. No reservior just a piston
cyclinder. [Question]
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| Subject: | Re: Annual Progress Report |
Shad - They're my patented "one-size-larger-than-I-meant-to-order-but-I'm-too-cheap-to-replace-them"
profile.
Should be plenty strong.
WW pointed out that the diagonals should be larger than the rod in my femur.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
Rebuilding NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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I had been considering hanging the wing, then I got y'all's emails. Last
night I lined the floor and the chicken wire "wall" that separates my
garage from my neighbors,1930s military housing. I put plastic over my tool
boxes and lockers, keeping the ice box with beer in it accessable. I set
fans up so they will push in through the back door and out through the
Garage door. Then I enlisted my 14 year old and several of his buddies
while I hung one wing from the ceiling by the metal attachments. I can now
get around the wing and a short step stool will get the trailing edge and
setting on the floor will do the leading edge.
The other Wing will stay in the cradle and be moved out while I paint.
After about 3 or 4 days, I will then move the hung wing it next to the
wall.
Next is to paint on my roundrel and some lettering on the wing.
After more thought, and rereading the email. I will move the hung wing and
rehang it next to the garage wall while I hang the other wing and repaint
it.
Thanks for the Advice.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Scott Knowlton <flyingscott_k@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Picture please?
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> Scott Knowlton
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 15, 2014, at 6:28 PM, "Rick Holland" <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Correct, latex has to dry for a very long time before you can lay it on
> anything without having it leave an imprint (like many weeks). I built tw
o
> stands consisting of a vertical 2x4 standing up on a base with two bracke
ts
> bolted on, one hooks to the wing root .090 spar brackets and the other to
> the wing center .090 brackets (very simple and cheap). This allows one or
> both wings to be hung vertically and only contact at those 4 brackets, th
is
> allows you to paint the entire wing at once and let it hang for weeks to
> dry.
>
> rick h
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 6:09 AM, Douwe Blumberg <
> douweblumberg@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Hey Steve,
>>
>>
>>
>> My experience with spraying latex was that while it =9Cfelt
=9D dry, if leaned
>> against anything, it would still kind of stick or take an imprint. Any
>> clever means you can devise to move it so you don=99t have to stop
spraying,
>> YET doesn=99t have to put much pressure on newish paint is a good
thing.
>>
>>
>>
>> I say you can=99t have too many inspection holes. Now=99s a
great time to
>> add them to every conceivable location, just the rings and leave the
>> fabric. Paint right over everything and then down the road you can cut
out
>> the fabric, paint a plate and start using it. Just the rings are pretty
>> darn innocuous.
>>
>>
>>
>> Douwe
>>
>> *
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ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>
>> tp://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/>
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://www.matronics.com/
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> --
> Rick Holland
> Castle Rock, Colorado
> NX6819Z
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Blue Skies,
Steve D
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 |
Doug, thanks for the intel. I imagine there will be plenty of tweaking to d
o once I get the ship in the air. Equal length cabanes will be my starting
point.=0A=0A-=0AIf God is your co-pilot, switch seats=0AMike Perez=0AKare
taker Aero=0AFirst engine start complete!
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| Subject: | Re: Annual Progress Reports |
Kevin and Shelley you are making fantastic progress. It looks very good; I love
the woodburned lettering in the backs of the seat backs.
Cheers,
Jim B.
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| Subject: | Re: Annual Progress Report |
Looking at your lettering on the seat backs again it looks like it may be very
careful painting or decals? What is it? It is very nice at any rate.
Jim B.
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| Subject: | Re: Annual Progress Report |
Hi Jim - Shelley has a stencil cutting machine and she worked her magic.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 |
great info guys
Doug: what would your opinion be on the riblett 30-613.5? thats what I am building.
ive got some notes at home in reference to this. there is atleast 1 piet
flying with the 613.5. on a trip right now. the 613.5 is supposed to be a higher
lift than the 612, im guessing your software would recommend a slightly lower
angle of incidence than 2 degrees? what do you think?
and thankyou WW for pursuing this data. very worthwhile stuff for all if you
want a pleasant flying plane.
Thanks Paul.
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead rigging project - 2014 |
Paul,
I am out of town tonight but when I get home tomorrow pm and have the numbers in
front of me I will be glad to crunch them for you. I suspect the angle of attack
for the 30-613.5 is slightly less for a given lift coefficient compared
to the 30-612. But what I think will make a bigger difference in determining
the cabane lengths and setting the incidence is my suspicion that the 30-613.5
will have a greater difference under the chord line, when comparing the front
to the rear spar locations, then the 30-612 does. I am curious myself and will
let you know.
Doug Wright
Stillwater, OK
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| Subject: | Re: Annual Progress Report |
Hi Kevin,
You have a very talented lady in Shelley. That lettering is really nice. Se
ts off the two cockpits beautifully.
Jim
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| Subject: | Re: Annual Progress Report |
Shelly's stencil cutting magic is all over my airplane. :))
Gene
On Jul 16, 2014, at 1:56 PM, "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> wrote:
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> Rebuilding NX899KP
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| Subject: | Re: Annual Progress Report |
Got a little on mine, too!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene Rambo
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Progress Report
Shelly's stencil cutting magic is all over my airplane. :))
Gene
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> Rebuilding NX899KP
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Many of messages come through empty. Matt any thoughts?
Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: Trip to Brodhead |
Santiago,
I hope you have safe travels. We look forward to seeing you at Brodhead.
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Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Jack and Matt,
Whenever I attach something to an email it wipes out the content. It does not seem
to matter what size the attachment is. In my case I suspect Comcast and the
Xfinity email interface, but they are an easy target!
Malcolm Morrison
wienerdogaero.com
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Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 9:27:05 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: No Content
Many of messages come through empty. Matt any thoughts?
Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: ###4th FLIGHT### |
Thanks for all of the information/ suggestions. We did two more flight tonight,
one with 25 lbs ballast and one with 50. Each one reduced stick pressure slightly,
but it is still there.....I also double stuck taped a digital level to the
top longeron to document the angle while at cruise. It showed it to be 0.2
to 0.5 down angle.....that seemed really good, I was expecting more. It seemed
to fly well " seeming" a little faster indicating 75 mph. My brain is telling
me I need to shorten the " rear" cabane. Now there is a bunch of information
showing the front cabane should be shorter..... This flight was at 1050 lbs
Next I am going to block the fuse level and recheck everything rigging wise using
water levels for the wings and double check squareness.
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NX321LR
Now test flying!!
Mitsubishi Powered
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| Subject: | Re: fill & bleeding brakes on kolb |
Many systems like this have what looks like a bleed nipple at the caliper, and
a check valve on the top of the piston at the user end (which technically creates
a little bit of a reservoir).
You put the fluid in a squeeze bottle (or something similar) that you can connect
to the bleed nipple with a little hose. Then just squirt in until it comes
out the top of the piston. Viola.
Hope it works like that and this helps!
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I use comcast...no apparent problem.
Gary
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 16, 2014, at 7:37 PM, gliderx5@comcast.net wrote:
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nd the Xfinity email interface, but they are an easy target!
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> Malcolm Morrison
> wienerdogaero.com
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> To: "Pietenpol" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead light this year |
Adrian's Pietenpol C-GGLU is ready to go, two cylinders had super low 20/80 compression
and case started getting pressurized so thanks to help from Mark at Air
Parts and Adrian, she is back together and sounds great!
I've done some practise flights with the fabric "luggage compartment" between passenger
(my non-flying husband Rick thats game for an adventure) and fuel tank
- it works really well - thank you for the idea!!
Have the USA decal, no transponder waiver, passenger manifest ready to file...C-GGLUs
first trip across the border :)
Keen to make up some of those tie downs described in "Vintage..." they look light
weight and effective.
Planning on leaving Lyncrest Airport CJL5 in Manitoba Monday July 21st in afternoon and meeting up with the Pietenpol pilots from around Stanton - near Minneapolis. If there are Pietenpols flying from Fargo/Grand Forks areas, it would be fun to travel south together. if you're wondering what route i'm taking my SPOT link is http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0IsyoEG36BRgHxXHJsfEtuDyGOzdZ9jZ2 for this trip and enroute cell for texting is 204-771-5583 - always looking for a grass strip and another Pietenpol to check out as we meander our way southward. I can hardly wait!!!!
After Brodhead am planning on flying in to OSH on whatever day everyone is going
in on.
see you there
Jill
:D
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| Subject: | Re: ###4th FLIGHT### |
Chris,
>From the previous calculation, adding the 50 pounds should put you about 17" CG,
in the middle of the range. Your quick test shows that moving the wing isn't
the fix, because the stick forces would be normal, as they are on many other
planes flying at that CG.
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Things to note in your tests: What was the density altitude there today? Weather service said you had a 72F day and the average MSL is 1,000' in your neighborhood. You can look at the 5th column in this chart: http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/standard-atmosphere-d_604.html
and factor in that density in the formula I put in the rigging 2014 notes. Use
.0020 (5000'DA) in place of .00237 (SL), to see the difference. You also want
to verify the airspeed with a few GPS passes. In a nutshell, the closer you work
the DA and airspeed, the better the calculation.
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As Doug pointed out, This info isn't to suggest that anyone tear apart a flying
plane or to stir debate. It is just so that people who have not gotten to that
point of their build have a chance to fine tune their own details, not based
just on calculations, but also based on measured data from flying planes.
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