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1. 05:53 AM - Re: Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question (Charles N. Campbell)
2. 05:59 AM - Re: Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question (Charles N. Campbell)
3. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question (Gary Boothe)
4. 07:35 AM - Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question (AircamperN11MS)
5. 07:55 AM - Comparission test resilts from last year (Barnwell Regional Airport)
6. 08:51 AM - Re: Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question (jim hyde)
7. 08:04 PM - Re: FBG 2.0 (IT Girl)
8. 08:06 PM - Re: Brodhead 2014 (IT Girl)
9. 09:39 PM - Re: Re: Brodhead 2014 (Boatright, Jeffrey)
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Subject: | Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question |
An A&P (and small aircraft builder) friend of mine just suggested to put a
Piper wing strut adjuster in the top end of each of the cabane struts so
you can adjust them after each test flight to get the incidence you want
without any guessing. Any comments? I guess he just nixed the use of wood
cabane struts I was planning on using. I don't know how I would put an
adjustable fork in the end of a piece of wood. Chuck
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 7:41 PM, AircamperN11MS <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
wrote:
> Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
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> Mike told me he is on his way to Brodhead in her s flybaby. He is stuck in
> AZ with a bad mag. He should be in the air again on Monday. He said he we
> check the lengths when he gets home.
>
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> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question |
I think I read a post that said the "Last Original" Aircamper is based at
Brodhead. If so, call someone up there and have them measure the lengths
of the cabane struts on it. That would probably solve the question. Chuck
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 2:08 PM, jarheadpilot82 <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
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> Mike,
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> If you are looking for a simple answer, here goes-
>
> The plans were the earlier iteration of an evolving design. That is why
> BHP kept building them and trying other automotive engines, for example.
> The simple answer would be to look at "The Last Original", not the first. I
> think that is where you will see the culmination of the design.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> --------
> Semper Fi,
>
> Terry Hand
> Athens, GA
>
> USMC, USMCR, ATP
> BVD DVD PDQ BBQ
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Subject: | Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question |
Charles,
You would also have to change the x-wires at the cabanes, the wing
struts and their drag/anti-drag wires, and the slanted cabanes, all
because someone who has never built a Pietenpol thought to impress you
with his =98better=99 idea.
Stick to the plans. Mr. Pietenpol has already figured all that stuff out
for you.
By the way, my wood / non-adjustable cabanes work just fine. In fact, I
cannot think of one Pietenpol with adjustable cabanes
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles
N. Campbell
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple
question
An A&P (and small aircraft builder) friend of mine just suggested to put
a Piper wing strut adjuster in the top end of each of the cabane struts
so you can adjust them after each test flight to get the incidence you
want without any guessing. Any comments? I guess he just nixed the use
of wood cabane struts I was planning on using. I don't know how I would
put an adjustable fork in the end of a piece of wood. Chuck
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 7:41 PM, AircamperN11MS
<Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote:
<Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
Mike told me he is on his way to Brodhead in her s flybaby. He is stuck
in AZ with a bad mag. He should be in the air again on Monday. He said
he we check the lengths when he gets home.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question |
Hey guys,
The topic this time was the length of the cabanes on a GN-1. Not the Pietenpol.
The GN-1 is very different. Larger spars and different airfoil resulting in
different cabane lengths. Sorry for the confusion. Mike Madrid and my dad both
have GN-1's. Hence asking them.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Comparission test resilts from last year |
Piet Builders,
Recently, there have been many comments regarding the supposed correct
angle of attack on the Pietenpol versus the Riblet 612 airfoil .
As far as I know, no one else has actually compared the two airfoils
side by side with almost identical planes, engines, props, and produced
any useful information. Will either airfoil perform better by changing
the wing angle of attack from what it is now on our planes. I honestly
can't say. I have about 300 hrs on my plane now and Don has about 70
hrs on his. Neither Don or I plan to change our wings fron what we have
now.
Accept the Pietenpol for what it is....a low and slow fun to fly
airplane. I get the most enjoyment in taking people for their first ride
in an open cockpit, homebuilt, wooden, 1929 vintage, corvair powered low
and slow airplane. When you see the big smile on their face after they
get out, it's all worthwhile.
For those who may have come on the Piet forum since the article in the
Piet newsletter last year or did not attend my forum at Brodhead last
year, I'm attaching the first comparission test for those who might care
to read it. We have conducted some more testing and plan to share what
we have learned at a later date.
Sorry I won't be at Brodhead this year, will miss seeing everyone.
P. F. Beck
Hosting Corvair College # 31 November 7,8 & 9 at Barnwell, S. C.
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Subject: | Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question |
mine are 23 3/8 front--- back 22- 22 3/8---- my friends is
191/2 front- -and back with a 90hp franklin mine 65 cont- his flys tr
ue and fast... mine is in the cover process =0A=0A=0AOn Sunday, July 20, 20
14 9:41 AM, AircamperN11MS <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote:=0A =0A=0A=0A-
.org>=0A=0AHey guys,=0AThe topic this time was the length of the cabanes on
a GN-1. Not the Pietenpol.- The GN-1 is very different. Larger spars and
different airfoil resulting in different cabane lengths. Sorry for the con
fusion. Mike Madrid and my dad both have GN-1's. Hence asking them.=0A=0A--
------=0AScott Liefeld=0AFlying N11MS since March 1972=0ASteel Tube=0AC-85-
12=0AWire Wheels=0ABrodhead in 1996=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online he
re:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427007#427007=0A=0A
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I'm crossing my fingers for good weather!
--------
Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2014 |
3 days and a wake up till we head to WI.... I can't wait to see you all.
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Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2014 |
Man, wish I was going! Send photos/movies to those whut ain't livin' right.
Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVO
Professor of Ophthalmology
Emory University School of Medicine
Sent from an iPad with a spelling problem
> On Jul 20, 2014, at 11:07 PM, "IT Girl" <shlizbth@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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> 3 days and a wake up till we head to WI.... I can't wait to see you all.
>
> --------
> Shelley Tumino
> IT Girl
> wife of "Axel"
> NX899KP
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427029#427029
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