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1. 06:15 AM - Re: Steve Williamson's Piet trip cut short (nightmare)
2. 06:50 AM - Re: Thinking Out Loud (Michael Perez)
3. 10:12 AM - Michael Cuy's Weight & Balance---please see attachment (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
4. 10:16 AM - take a 36 second Pietenpol ride with Rachel and I (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
5. 11:50 AM - Being judged (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
6. 03:55 PM - Re: Michael Cuy's Weight & Balance---please see attachment (Gary Boothe)
7. 05:43 PM - Re: take a 36 second Pietenpol ride with Rachel and I (taildrags)
8. 07:42 PM - Re: take a 36 second Pietenpol ride with Rachel and I (Ray Krause)
9. 08:00 PM - Brodhead Report (dgaldrich)
10. 11:44 PM - Re: take a 36 second Pietenpol ride with Rachel and I (aerocarjake)
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| Subject: | Re: Steve Williamson's Piet trip cut short |
wow. this is better than "the Housewives of Atlanta". lol. sorry guys, couldnt
resist.
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
do not archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427363#427363
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| Subject: | Re: Thinking Out Loud |
Thanks for the replies. Thank you Jack for taking the time to provide a detailed
explanation. I enjoy the more in-depth posts as through these I learn the most.
If God is your co-pilot, switch seats
Mike Perez
Karetaker Aero
First engine start complete!
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| Subject: | Michael Cuy's Weight & Balance---please see attachment |
William Wynne writes:
"the reason why I am giving Mike C a hard time on W&B is actually on your b
ehalf: I strongly suspect that Mike is not sharing his W&B because he is at
times flying behind the aft limit. That is his choice, but when he then te
lls new guys like you to build your plane just like his, I think he is doi
ng a disservice. If this is true, your loyalty is to the wrong guy. Mike, w
hen you share the numbers, be aware that I am good enough to know if you ar
e fudging it.
Dear William-you have such grand visions of paranoia about why I have not s
hared my weight and balance. My world is not small enough to worry abou
t what you think of me sharing or not sharing my weight and balance
with the list because the guy I am trying to help (as he stated just yester
day on the Pietenpol list) does in fact have paper copies of my original W
&B paperwork in-hand, Mike Perez. I also copied the great notes for Mik
e Perez
that I had on hand for Mike Perez that Bill Rewey authored on how to do a g
ood W&B on our little Pietnepol airplanes so Mike could have several differ
ent ways of doing his own calculations and choose the one that fit his math
ematic style and likes best.
And thankfully, with the outstanding W&B teachings and guidelines that my
Uncle Tony Bingelis authored for us in this wonderful book series on homeb
uilt aircraft, I was able to conduct an accurate and complete W&B on my ai
rplane and compare that with the dozens of Pietenpol builders whom I had me
t at Brodhead after measuring their wing set-back, knowing their personal
body weights, and talking with them about how their plane flies full fuel,
low fuel, long fuselage, short fuselage,
extended motor mount, as-plans motor mount and soforth and examining their
W&B paperwork to guide me as I built my Pietenpol and made my own decisions
. Go ahead and double check my original pencil-drawn and .pdf scanned pap
erwork from 16 years ago that I prepared for myself, for the FAA MIDO Insp
ector, and for future owner/operators of my aircraft for when I am long go
ne but certainly not for you and your little paranoia's about why I haven'
t posted my numbers to the list. I have better things to do with my li
fe than to fudge my data to see if you can catch any errors and I'm a bit s
tupid at times but I'm never stupid enough to build and fly my own airplane
in an aft-CG condition. You're wasting your time worrying about what yo
u "suspect" others are doing or not doing and what might motivate them and
you are distracting from the good nature of this list with negativity and y
our critical nature that just divides.
And William, besides making sure my plane was built to have a very safe an
d good operating CG range, I took great pains to ensure that my plane was
built to the best of my ability, using all the educational reading material
s at my disposal, and with the best aircraft-grade materials and aircraft
engine overhaul practices of the day so that I could have confidence in fly
ing safely for years to come and so that I would have confidence in giving
rides to precious Mom's, Dad's, Grandparents, sons, daughters, school k
ids, Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, Aunts, Uncles, little kids, big kids, old g
uys, young guys, young gals, old gals, Aunts, nieces, nephews, neighbo
r kids, 4-H kids, Young Eagle kids, my own brother, dearest friend Bill
, the EAA photographers in the trenches at New Holstein, an F-18 West Co
ast Demonstration Team pilot who was building his own RV-6 (named James Sh
oenberger in case you "suspect that Mike Cuy isn't telling the truth...agai
n.." ) , A Pearl Harbor survivor, an airport bum, people at the Brodhead f
ly-in and many other fly-in's around Ohio, Indiana, Pennsylvania, a high s
chool friend and his children, his wife, his best friend...... and yes, ev
en Michael Perez, his lovely wife Susan , and his two boys.
Even last night I gave a ride to a precious High School senior from the are
a who means the world to me and her Mom, a Kindergarten school mate of min
e from 50 years ago (that would be 1964) (we were 5 when me met) allowed
her daughter to take flight with me and I had no reservations about giving
her that ride and sharing this wonderful gift of flight that we ultimately
build a 2-seat, open cockpit airplane for.
Mike C.
Ohio
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| Subject: | take a 36 second Pietenpol ride with Rachel and I |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdtgC10zNuA&feature=em-upload_owner
What a gorgeously smooth night it was last night in the Cleveland area. F
or all of you out there building or just starting to build or even just dre
aming about
building a Pietnepol, here's a little slice of Pietenpol heaven for you al
l that I have been so BLESSED to be able to share with so many over the yea
rs.
Keep building, keep working in your shops little by little and don't give
up the dream of completing your VERY OWN Pietenpol Air Camper. Even 16 y
ears
after first flying my Pietenpol the joy and fulfillment of taking someone f
or their first Pietenpol ride hasn't diminished or dimmed ONE bit!
I hope you all enjoy the flight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mike C.
Ohio
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| Subject: | Michael Cuy's Weight & Balance---please see attachment |
Adding to the discussion (see attached):
Today I moved out my Piet so John Howard could do W&B on his new Zenith 750.
We had Pelouze scales supplied by our EAA Chapter.as opposed to when I did
my own W&B with a digital bathroom scale. Since all was there and ready to
go, with help, I re-weighed my Piet.
I was approximately 50 lbs off on the gross weight, but the numbers still
fell within the envelope [sigh of relief]. As a quick review:
Long fuselage
Corvair
Cabanes tilted 4"
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 10:11 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Michael Cuy's Weight & Balance---please see
attachment
William Wynne writes:
"the reason why I am giving Mike C a hard time on W&B is actually on your
behalf: I strongly suspect that Mike is not sharing his W&B because he is at
times flying behind the aft limit. That is his choice, but when he then
tells new guys like you to build your plane just like his, I think he is
doing a disservice. If this is true, your loyalty is to the wrong guy. Mike,
when you share the numbers, be aware that I am good enough to know if you
are fudging it.
Dear William-you have such grand visions of paranoia about why I have not
shared my weight and balance. My world is not small enough to worry
about what you think of me sharing or not sharing my weight and balance
with the list because the guy I am trying to help (as he stated just
yesterday on the Pietenpol list) does in fact have paper copies of my
original W&B paperwork in-hand, Mike Perez. I also copied the great
notes for Mike Perez
that I had on hand for Mike Perez that Bill Rewey authored on how to do a
good W&B on our little Pietnepol airplanes so Mike could have several
different ways of doing his own calculations and choose the one that fit his
mathematic style and likes best.
And thankfully, with the outstanding W&B teachings and guidelines that my
Uncle Tony Bingelis authored for us in this wonderful book series on
homebuilt aircraft, I was able to conduct an accurate and complete W&B on
my airplane and compare that with the dozens of Pietenpol builders whom I
had met at Brodhead after measuring their wing set-back, knowing their
personal body weights, and talking with them about how their plane flies
full fuel, low fuel, long fuselage, short fuselage,
extended motor mount, as-plans motor mount and soforth and examining their
W&B paperwork to guide me as I built my Pietenpol and made my own decisions.
Go ahead and double check my original pencil-drawn and .pdf scanned
paperwork from 16 years ago that I prepared for myself, for the FAA MIDO
Inspector, and for future owner/operators of my aircraft for when I am long
gone but certainly not for you and your little paranoia's about why I
haven't posted my numbers to the list. I have better things to do with
my life than to fudge my data to see if you can catch any errors and I'm a
bit stupid at times but I'm never stupid enough to build and fly my own
airplane in an aft-CG condition. You're wasting your time worrying about
what you "suspect" others are doing or not doing and what might motivate
them and you are distracting from the good nature of this list with
negativity and your critical nature that just divides.
And William, besides making sure my plane was built to have a very safe and
good operating CG range, I took great pains to ensure that my plane was
built to the best of my ability, using all the educational reading materials
at my disposal, and with the best aircraft-grade materials and aircraft
engine overhaul practices of the day so that I could have confidence in
flying safely for years to come and so that I would have confidence in
giving rides to precious Mom's, Dad's, Grandparents, sons, daughters,
school kids, Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, Aunts, Uncles, little kids, big
kids, old guys, young guys, young gals, old gals, Aunts, nieces, nephews,
neighbor kids, 4-H kids, Young Eagle kids, my own brother, dearest
friend Bill, the EAA photographers in the trenches at New Holstein, an
F-18 West Coast Demonstration Team pilot who was building his own RV-6
(named James Shoenberger in case you "suspect that Mike Cuy isn't telling
the truth.again.." ) , A Pearl Harbor survivor, an airport bum, people at
the Brodhead fly-in and many other fly-in's around Ohio, Indiana,
Pennsylvania, a high school friend and his children, his wife, his best
friend.. and yes, even Michael Perez, his lovely wife Susan , and his two
boys.
Even last night I gave a ride to a precious High School senior from the area
who means the world to me and her Mom, a Kindergarten school mate of mine
from 50 years ago (that would be 1964) (we were 5 when me met) allowed
her daughter to take flight with me and I had no reservations about giving
her that ride and sharing this wonderful gift of flight that we ultimately
build a 2-seat, open cockpit airplane for.
Mike C.
Ohio
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| Subject: | Re: take a 36 second Pietenpol ride with Rachel and I |
That's what I'm talkin' about! What fun.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: take a 36 second Pietenpol ride with Rachel and I |
Mike,
The smile tells it all!
Thanks! Keep flying, giving rides and helping those who are still building!
We sill get there.
Ray Krause
SkyScout coming along....slowly.
Sent from my iPad
> On Jul 26, 2014, at 10:15 AM, "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners
, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdtgC10zNuA&feature=em-upload_owner
>
>
> What a gorgeously smooth night it was last night in the Cleveland area.
For all of you out there building or just starting to build or even just dre
aming about
> building a Pietnepol, here=99s a little slice of Pietenpol heaven f
or you all that I have been so BLESSED to be able to share with so many over
the years.
>
> Keep building, keep working in your shops little by little and don=99
t give up the dream of completing your VERY OWN Pietenpol Air Camper. Eve
n 16 years
> after first flying my Pietenpol the joy and fulfillment of taking someone f
or their first Pietenpol ride hasn=99t diminished or dimmed ONE bit!
>
> I hope you all enjoy the flight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Mike C.
> Ohio
>
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It's Saturday evening and NOBODY has posted anything yet on Brodhead 2014. Let
me start.
First, the weather so far has been pretty darn decent considering what's happened
in the past. No typhoons, ice storms or whatever...yet.
The turnout has been better than some expected. Skip Gadd has the official account
but it's somewhere around 14 Piets. Now if the guys in the hangars would
trot them out, we could probably have a squadron.
Bratfest IV was well attended and the brats were up to their usual high standard,
as was the hospitality.
The only thing I can critique is the lack of a Saturday speakers program. Instead,
Chapter 431 put on a very nice presentation on the Bleriot, to include short
talks by several people who have flown them. One was by a gentleman from
Luxembourg who flew the channel in a replica 100 years after the second crossing.
That's all for now.
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: take a 36 second Pietenpol ride with Rachel and I |
THANK YOU Mike..... I worked in the shop for several hours today - that much closer
to being able to take people - I know not who - on a flight such as you show.
There have been some struggles lately so thanks for the encouragement - it
is truly appreciated.......
--------
Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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