Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Tue 07/29/14


Total Messages Posted: 19



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:07 AM - Re: Re: Michael Cuy's Weight & Balance---please see attachment (earthlink1)
     2. 04:08 AM - Re: Michael Cuy's Weight & Balance---please see attachment (jarheadpilot82)
     3. 06:12 AM - Re: Brodhead 2014 (jarheadpilot82)
     4. 06:16 AM - Re: photo of Dan Helsper flying his Piet (bdewenter)
     5. 06:16 AM - Re: Re: Michael Cuy's Weight & Balance---please see attachment (Steven Dortch)
     6. 07:16 AM - Builder Introduction (bdewenter)
     7. 07:20 AM - Andrew King (Douwe Blumberg)
     8. 07:24 AM - Emailing: brodfhead 2014 sunset smoke (Douwe Blumberg)
     9. 07:33 AM - more pics (Douwe Blumberg)
    10. 08:09 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead 2014 (glenschweizer@yahoo.com)
    11. 09:19 AM - Re: more pics (Boatright, Jeffrey)
    12. 10:09 AM - off subject----98 Year old Dick Cole Flies B-25 into Oshkosh........ (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
    13. 10:31 AM - Re: Builder Introduction (airlion2@gmail.com)
    14. 10:43 AM - Eyesight (Steven Dortch)
    15. 10:52 AM - Re: off subject----98 Year old Dick Cole Flies B-25 into Oshkosh (AircamperN11MS)
    16. 11:04 AM - Re: Eyesight (AircamperN11MS)
    17. 05:31 PM - Re: more pics (taildrags)
    18. 06:38 PM - Re: Re: more pics (glenschweizer@yahoo.com)
    19. 11:26 PM - Re: Re: more pics (Clif Dawson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:07:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Michael Cuy's Weight & Balance---please see attachment
    From: earthlink1 <kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
    I think Mr. Hyde was being overly familiar with James Beam when he made his last post. On Jul 28, 2014, at 11:43 PM, Bill Church wrote: > > Wow. > Jim Hyde, stick a sock in it. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427491#427491 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:08:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Michael Cuy's Weight & Balance---please see attachment
    From: "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
    Braniff1966, You don't really know how to speak in polite company, do you? You have sure been asked enough times by forum members to do so. But you either can't or won't. After 10+ years in the Marine Corps I have the ability to speak as salty as you do, probably even better. Cursing in the Marine Corps is an art form, but I choose not to on this forum out of respect for others. It is obvious to me that you have none of that same respect for the wishes of others. That would involve couth, of which you seem to have none. So how about aspiring to sound more intelligent than a 14 year old boy at a high school football camp? Bill Church summarized it best. Just put a sock in it. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA USMC, USMCR, ATP BVD DVD PDQ BBQ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427496#427496


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    Time: 06:12:32 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brodhead 2014
    From: "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
    Steve, I agree that cooler heads should prevail, and it would indeed be nice for things to get back to a "kinder gentler forum." But just make sure that all parties are asked to do the same, and don't single out one side or the other. When I first joined the forum I posted a link to a video of Pietenpols flying along with some music that I had put together for everyone's enjoyment. I was just trying to be nice. Well, one individual took umbrage that I had used his video without asking nor crediting him and demanded that I either credit him or remove it from YouTube. It got rather heated on the forum to the point I was privately asked to back off because this person had other things going on with their life. I am not sure he was asked to lighten the same way I was asked. So my point is, make any complaints equal. ______________________ Glen, I don't think you should refer to Mike Cuy as an arrogant, self promoting, self proclaimed expert. ______________________ -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA USMC, USMCR, ATP BVD DVD PDQ BBQ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427500#427500


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    Time: 06:16:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: photo of Dan Helsper flying his Piet
    From: "bdewenter" <anonymouse@woh.rr.com>
    I LIKE the GRIN! - That is motivation to complete mine! -------- Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter Dayton OH Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427501#427501


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    Time: 06:16:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Michael Cuy's Weight & Balance---please see attachment
    From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
    Terry, In the Army, cursing is not an art. It is used to pronounce punctuation marks! It can also be used to help specify specific individuals. IE "Terry, You *&^$@#()*)**%$#er, pick up that E-tool and get to digging! Over the years my wife has convinced me to save cursing for special emphasis. And then only in the correct crowd. Oscar, I would consider putting the "Official" gross weight as close to 1300 pounds as is reasonable. While defining a True (The one used day to day) gross that is lower. Both should be safe. But the higher one could be used on colder winter days when you want to take a big guy up. Just a Thot. If Mr. Hyde had ended his post at the question marks It would have been a valid argument. I would not have agreed with it, but it would have had merit. Now on to something else. If I have my plane ready, do you think they will let me enter it in the Red Bull Air Races? Blue Skies, Steve D On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 6:08 AM, jarheadpilot82 <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com> wrote: > jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com> > > Braniff1966, > > You don't really know how to speak in polite company, do you? You have > sure been asked enough times by forum members to do so. But you either > can't or won't. > > After 10+ years in the Marine Corps I have the ability to speak as salty > as you do, probably even better. Cursing in the Marine Corps is an art > form, but I choose not to on this forum out of respect for others. It is > obvious to me that you have none of that same respect for the wishes of > others. That would involve couth, of which you seem to have none. > > So how about aspiring to sound more intelligent than a 14 year old boy at > a high school football camp? > > Bill Church summarized it best. Just put a sock in it. > > -------- > Semper Fi, > > Terry Hand > Athens, GA > > USMC, USMCR, ATP > BVD DVD PDQ BBQ > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427496#427496 > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D


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    Time: 07:16:35 AM PST US
    Subject: Builder Introduction
    From: "bdewenter" <anonymouse@woh.rr.com>
    Builder Introduction Hello! Only a handful of the people on this list know of me, and that I own an 800 acre weasel ranch in North Dakota. I am building a Pietenpol because it will greatly enhance the annual population census of the herd, and greatly improve our fall roundup and herding activities. These are of course free range weasels and they move quite a bit during the year. I currently have to rent a C-172 and its a bit too fast for this type of work. Completing the Piet will be HUGE! We were blessed this year with an excellent crop of new baby weasels, and the estimate of the total number in my heard is between 2,000 and 2,500 weasels. This is very good news because our latest product a replacement for traditional petroleum based grease has been approved by the American Council on Lubricants Usage (ACLU) and of course the Chapter 2899 of the North Dakota Regional Animal Civil Liberties Union (NDRACLU) . The only other product approved for sale by the North Dakota Weasel Growers Association (NDWGA) has been the more traditional weasel butter, and weasel meat. The new lubricants group at the ranch has worked very hard to get this new product approved and available for sale. I have already talked to the Green Tractor company about switching over to our environmentally responsible product and things are looking good for 2015 sales. Things have not always gone this well. A few years ago the NDWGA hired a big advertising agency to come up with a campaign to promote weasel butter and weasel meat. So we paid $22,000 and before we could get the nationwide campaign launched, our catch-phrase was stolen by the Beef industry. Thats right folks, our new slogan Weasel, its whats for Dinner was stolen and became Beef, its whats for Dinner. The NDWGA is pretty sure who sold us out to the cattle ranchers but cant prove it yet. Luckily our 2013 NDWGA Weasel Pageant Queen, Sally Olsson, from Dooley North Dakota, came up with Weasel, the other Yellow meat and we voted unanimously to adopt that as our industry slogan during the 2013 NDWGA convention. Im glad this is all behind us. Thats not the only bit of trouble Ive had with the operation. Every once in a while, one of the young males tries to get the pot stirred and get the others weasels to strike for better conditions. I always quell the herd by turning the leader into a gelding. Each time this happens we are able to market test weasel fries or what I like to call North Dakota Oysters. Well enough of all this talk about me and my ranch, as I must be off now. Since you know a little more about me, I wont be so timid to introduce myself to you all you good people at Brodhead next year. If you are going to Barnwell in November I will see you there. By now. -------- Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter Dayton OH Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427503#427503


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    Time: 07:20:12 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Andrew King
    Hey Andrew, When convenient, contact me offline and I'll get those air to air photos coming your way. Got some good ones. Douwe douweblumberg@earthlink.net


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    Time: 07:24:12 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Emailing: brodfhead 2014 sunset smoke
    Here's a fun Brodhead 2014 shot


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    Time: 07:33:35 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: more pics
    And more


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    Time: 08:09:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brodhead 2014
    From: glenschweizer@yahoo.com
    Terry Sorry for the misunderstanding Glen Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 29, 2014, at 6:12 AM, "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Steve, > > I agree that cooler heads should prevail, and it would indeed be nice for things to get back to a "kinder gentler forum." But just make sure that all parties are asked to do the same, and don't single out one side or the other. > > When I first joined the forum I posted a link to a video of Pietenpols flying along with some music that I had put together for everyone's enjoyment. I was just trying to be nice. Well, one individual took umbrage that I had used his video without asking nor crediting him and demanded that I either credit him or remove it from YouTube. It got rather heated on the forum to the point I was privately asked to back off because this person had other things going on with their life. I am not sure he was asked to lighten the same way I was asked. So my point is, make any complaints equal. > > ______________________ > > Glen, > > I don't think you should refer to Mike Cuy as an arrogant, self promoting, self proclaimed expert. > > ______________________ > > -------- > Semper Fi, > > Terry Hand > Athens, GA > > USMC, USMCR, ATP > BVD DVD PDQ BBQ > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427500#427500 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:19:45 AM PST US
    From: "Boatright, Jeffrey" <jeffboatright@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: more pics
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    Time: 10:09:16 AM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: off subject----98 Year old Dick Cole Flies B-25 into Oshkosh........
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpJ8gMykbC4 Piet Group, Please excuse the diversion from the normal Pietenpol topics but I thought that many of you would enjoy this moving video of Jimmy Doolitte's Toyko Raider co-pilot Dick Cole (who is now 98 years o ld) riding along and flying into Oshkosh in a B-25. Incredible living history at the controls of a B-25. Amazing. Mike C. Ohio


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    Time: 10:31:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Builder Introduction
    From: airlion2@gmail.com
    You are a hoot Bob. ..Gardiner Sent from my iPad > On Jul 29, 2014, at 10:16 AM, "bdewenter" <anonymouse@woh.rr.com> wrote: > > > Builder Introduction > > Hello! Only a handful of the people on this list know of me, and that I own an 800 acre weasel ranch in North Dakota. I am building a Pietenpol because it will greatly enhance the annual population census of the herd, and greatly improve our fall roundup and herding activities. These are of course free range weasels and they move quite a bit during the year. I currently have to rent a C-172 and its a bit too fast for this type of work. Completing the Piet will be HUGE! > > We were blessed this year with an excellent crop of new baby weasels, and the estimate of the total number in my heard is between 2,000 and 2,500 weasels. This is very good news because our latest product a replacement for traditional petroleum based grease has been approved by the American Council on Lubricants Usage (ACLU) and of course the Chapter 2899 of the North Dakota Regional Animal Civil Liberties Union (NDRACLU) . > > The only other product approved for sale by the North Dakota Weasel Growers Association (NDWGA) has been the more traditional weasel butter, and weasel meat. The new lubricants group at the ranch has worked very hard to get this new product approved and available for sale. I have already talked to the Green Tractor company about switching over to our environmentally responsible product and things are looking good for 2015 sales. > > Things have not always gone this well. A few years ago the NDWGA hired a big advertising agency to come up with a campaign to promote weasel butter and weasel meat. So we paid $22,000 and before we could get the nationwide campaign launched, our catch-phrase was stolen by the Beef industry. Thats right folks, our new slogan Weasel, its whats for Dinner was stolen and became Beef, its whats for Dinner. The NDWGA is pretty sure who sold us out to the cattle ranchers but cant prove it yet. Luckily our 2013 NDWGA Weasel Pageant Queen, Sally Olsson, from Dooley North Dakota, came up with Weasel, the other Yellow meat and we voted unanimously to adopt that as our industry slogan during the 2013 NDWGA convention. Im glad this is all behind us. > > Thats not the only bit of trouble Ive had with the operation. Every once in a while, one of the young males tries to get the pot stirred and get the others weasels to strike for better conditions. I always quell the herd by turning the leader into a gelding. Each time this happens we are able to market test weasel fries or what I like to call North Dakota Oysters. > Well enough of all this talk about me and my ranch, as I must be off now. Since you know a little more about me, I wont be so timid to introduce myself to you all you good people at Brodhead next year. If you are going to Barnwell in November I will see you there. > > By now. > > -------- > Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter > Dayton OH > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427503#427503 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:43:51 AM PST US
    Subject: Eyesight
    From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
    Jeffrey Boatwright, based on your signature block I thought you might know something about eyes. What is your opinion on the various dietary supplements that claim to help keep or improve your eyesight? I have been diagnosed as "Pre-Glaucoma." I don't have it yet but I have a biennial screening for it. -- Blue Skies, Steve D


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    Time: 10:52:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: off subject----98 Year old Dick Cole Flies B-25 into
    Oshkosh
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    Very cool Mike. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427515#427515


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    Time: 11:04:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Eyesight
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    I'm guessing that Jeffery doesn't know a lot about eyes. If you look closely you will notice that he wears glasses. Or maybe that just means that supplements don't work. Jeffery, Please defend yourself or at least help the rest of us see more clearly. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427521#427521


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    Time: 05:31:05 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: more pics
    From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    I see Douwe added some 'kickers' to the ends of his formerly straight exhaust pipes. Wonder what's up with that? -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427530#427530


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    Time: 06:38:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: more pics
    From: glenschweizer@yahoo.com
    Twice pipes,eh ese? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 29, 2014, at 5:29 PM, "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > I see Douwe added some 'kickers' to the ends of his formerly straight exhaust pipes. Wonder what's up with that? > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; > A75 power > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427530#427530 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:26:10 PM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: more pics
    JATO Clif "The true method of knowledge is experiment." (William Blake) > I see Douwe added some 'kickers' to the ends of his formerly straight > exhaust pipes. Wonder what's up with that? > Oscar Zuniga




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