---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 08/02/14: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:06 AM - Re: side note about smoke and smoke oil for Pietenpols (Jack) 2. 04:43 AM - Re: Re: wing loads (danhelsper@aol.com) 3. 06:22 AM - Re: Brodhead Report (Baldeagle) 4. 06:39 AM - Re: Jim Markle's progress! (Jerry Dotson) 5. 07:09 AM - fly-ins (Douwe Blumberg) 6. 07:14 AM - smoke system for lazy people... (Douwe Blumberg) 7. 07:28 AM - Air delivery (Douwe) 8. 07:32 AM - Re: Air delivery (gsnewsome) 9. 07:43 AM - Re: Distance LE to front spar (echobravo4) 10. 07:46 AM - =?utf-8?Q?Re:__fly-ins? (=?utf-8?Q?aviatorbell@yahoo.com?=) 11. 08:15 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead Report (Greg Cardinal) 12. 09:43 AM - 3 Corvair Engines Available (Greg Bacon) 13. 09:45 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead Report (Gene Rambo) 14. 09:49 AM - Re: Air delivery (aerocarjake) 15. 11:49 AM - Re: Air delivery (Ken Bickers) 16. 02:29 PM - Re: Brodhead Report (Braniff1966) 17. 04:43 PM - Re: which holds more oil? (piperj3cubflyer) 18. 05:06 PM - Re: Re: Brodhead Report (danhelsper@aol.com) 19. 05:20 PM - cool dusk shot (Douwe Blumberg) 20. 07:04 PM - Re: Distance LE to front spar (Pocono John) 21. 08:54 PM - Re: A Pietenpol Cousin (Gary Boothe) 22. 09:32 PM - Re: fly-ins (tools) 23. 09:44 PM - Re: fly-ins (tools) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:06:33 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: side note about smoke and smoke oil for Pietenpols From: Jack Mike, 1 or 2 inches from the manifold end? Sent from my iPad Jack Textor > On Aug 1, 2014, at 3:32 PM, "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, L LC]" wrote: > > Gary=94smoke is just a blast to have. With your electrical syste m you could probably use a salvage yard or new replacement windshield > washer pump/reservoir setup. I don=99t know if the washer pumps h ave the kind of pressure you need but I don=99t see why it wouldn =99t > work as long as it could overcome the backpressure in the exhaust stack. You only need to inject into one exhaust stack too. As long as > you inject in that first 1-2=9D the oil with smoke really well. > > I believe Chuck Gantzer used a windshield washer pump for his baby oil smo ke system and it worked well but the baby oil didn=99t have as white > a look as the mineral oil. > > I use the regular air show smoke oil so it does well but isn=99t che ap but thankfully some distributors sell it in 5 gallon buckets. Not sure what the trade > name for the stuff is now since I haven=99t purchased any in a while but it used to be Texaco Canopus Oil #13, before that it was Corvis oil. > > Kyle Franklin posted this on his web page about the various smoke oils he a sks for when making an air show appearance. > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:53 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wing loads From: danhelsper@aol.com There are a couple of great things about Gene's posts. He makes me laugh, and I find myself actually reading all the thread posts so I don't miss out on the fun!=0A=0A=0ADan Hel sper=0ALoensloe Airfield=0APuryear, TN=0A=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message--- --=0AFrom: jarheadpilot82 =0ATo: pietenpol-lis t =0ASent: Fri, Aug 1, 2014 11:06 pm =0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wing loads=0A=0A=0A--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "jarheadpilot82" =0A=0AGe ne,=0A=0AGene,=0A=0AHumor is often tonal, so it is hard to get it in the written word. Contrast the =0Alady at the store check out saying to you, "have a nice day!" In a happy tone =0Awith the guy saying "have a nice day" in a tone that really says "@&$)!&@!$& =0Ayou!". Same 4 words, much diff erent meanings. Same with humor. That is what =0Amakes humor writers rich - their ability to communicate humor via the wr itten =0Aword. Don't feel bad. Few of us have that gift.=0A=0A One man's absurdity is another man's enjoyable pastime. I don' t get why fat old =0Aguys chase a white ball around a co w pasture every Saturday morning, but golf =0Awas a $177 bil lion industry in 2011. I don't get "pasture pool" but plenty of =0Apeople love it. But if people enjoy it, so be it. Same with analysis of spar =0Astrength, modulus of rupture, etc. just because you don't get it doesn't mean =0Aothers do n't find it fascinating.=0A=0AWhy not just let 'em?=0A=0A--------=0A Semper Fi,=0A=0ATerry Hand=0AAthens, GA=0A=0AUSMC, USMCR, ATP=0ABVD DVD PDQ BBQ=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://f =========================== =========================== =========================== =========================== =========================== =========================== =========================== ==================0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:22:49 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead Report From: "Baldeagle" I will make the same comment that I think I've made the last couple of years-- it's time to utilise the standard Brodhead flyby pattern that's used at the Grass Roots Antique fly-in there in September. I saw airplanes crossing the airfield upwind, downwind, and crosswind. There were a few doing slow flight low enough that if their engine quit they would have no choice but to hit the ground amongst the airplanes and people. All flying from about the gas pumps to the runway should be parallel to landing traffic and downwind legs on the south side of the airport should be over the hangars or even south of the hangars. It only has to happen once for somebody to pile into the parking area of two airplanes to collide over the field to ruin everything. The person flying the light blue Taylorcraft showed very poor judgement, flying low and slow on downwind for landing almost right over the pavillion. I don't mean to be too curmudgeonly, as I had a great time at the fly-in, but this is a recurring safety issue, and should be addressed. - -------- do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427820#427820 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:39:39 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Jim Markle's progress! From: "Jerry Dotson" Jim has even threatened to come fly with me! I am a brave man and told him to come fly with me. Jerry -------- Jerry Dotson First flight June 16,2012 Flying in phase 2 Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427822#427822 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:09:44 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: fly-ins Hey Mike and everyone else. I am toying with the idea of flying Marci out to the big antique fly-in in Blakesburg, but then I got invited to the labor day fly-in at Red Stewart (Waynesville, ON) Here's the link, ck it out. I hear it's awesome. We can fly in anytime they're not doing their airshow and camp out. They have gas and it is a GREAT grass field. I think we should get a gaggle of Piets to attend since there are a lot within easy striking distance. Mike D, why don't you fly up to my field in Fallmouth, KY and hangout with us for a night. I'll show you the studio etc and then we fly up the next day. The invite is open to anyone who wants to use our place as a stopover. http://www.stewartsaircraft.net/airshow-2014.html Douwe ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:14:15 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: smoke system for lazy people... IF you're too lazy, or just don't need one more system to fabricate from scratch, you can buy most of the smoke system from the Sonex guys. That's what I did, but I was madly trying to finish and was happy to shell out some bucks to save time. Douwe ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:28:12 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Air delivery From: Douwe Well, I can finally officially deduct a Piet trip from my taxes! Had to deliver a statue to Louisville so I shoehorned (safely lashed down) i t into the front seat and flew into beautiful miles field in shelbyville. S tayed with some friends one of who's mom was an early aviatrix. She flew tra vel airs and stuff in england and had this pic on the wall Douwe Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:32:52 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Air delivery From: "gsnewsome" Nice Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427828#427828 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:43:43 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Distance LE to front spar From: "echobravo4" Hi John I just checked my plans, and, as bill stated, the lower drawing has the dimensions to be concerned about- follow that one The upper drawing is there so you can plot the points to draw the airfoil if you don't have the full-size drawing. As far as the horizontal main beam- the 5/8" is right- anything that winds up sticking above the surface will be sanded down flush later. -------- Earl Brown I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427830#427830 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:46:33 AM PST US Subject: =?utf-8?Q?RE:_Pietenpol-List:_fly-ins? 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Attached are pdf's of the accepted fly-by patterns. These are also posted on the bulletin board at Brodhead. The MAAC fly-in rules are also attached. Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Baldeagle" Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 8:22 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead Report > > > I will make the same comment that I think I've made the last couple of > years-- it's time to utilise the standard Brodhead flyby pattern that's > used at the Grass Roots Antique fly-in there in September. I saw > airplanes crossing the airfield upwind, downwind, and crosswind. There > were a few doing slow flight low enough that if their engine quit they > would have no choice but to hit the ground amongst the airplanes and > people. All flying from about the gas pumps to the runway should be > parallel to landing traffic and downwind legs on the south side of the > airport should be over the hangars or even south of the hangars. It only > has to happen once for somebody to pile into the parking area of two > airplanes to collide over the field to ruin everything. The person flying > the light blue Taylorcraft showed very poor judgement, flying low and slow > on downwind for landing almost right over the pavillion. > > I don't mean to be too curmudgeonly, as I had a great time at the > fly-in, but this is a recurring safety issue, and should be addressed. > > > - > > -------- > do not archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427820#427820 > > > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:43:30 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: 3 Corvair Engines Available From: Greg Bacon Hi Everyone! I'm no longer interested in a WW conversion. I have 3 Corvair engines (all 110 HP), one turns freely, one is locked up, and one is disassembled with some good parts available. I would like $500 for everything. I reside near Columbia, MO. Contact me off-list if interested. Do not archive -- Greg Bacon ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:45:58 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead Report From: Gene Rambo That Taylorcraft does that every year.... Gene On Aug 2, 2014, at 9:22 AM, "Baldeagle" wrote: > > I will make the same comment that I think I've made the last couple of years-- it's time to utilise the standard Brodhead flyby pattern that's used at the Grass Roots Antique fly-in there in September. I saw airplanes crossing the airfield upwind, downwind, and crosswind. There were a few doing slow flight low enough that if their engine quit they would have no choice but to hit the ground amongst the airplanes and people. All flying from about the gas pumps to the runway should be parallel to landing traffic and downwind legs on the south side of the airport should be over the hangars or even south of the hangars. It only has to happen once for somebody to pile into the parking area of two airplanes to collide over the field to ruin everything. The person flying the light blue Taylorcraft showed very poor judgement, flying low and slow on downwind for landing almost right over the pavillion. > > I don't mean to be too curmudgeonly, as I had a great time at the fly-in, but this is a recurring safety issue, and should be addressed. > > > > > - > > -------- > do not archive > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427820#427820 > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:49:26 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Air delivery From: "aerocarjake" Both aspects of that are awesome...! -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427838#427838 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:49:02 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Air delivery From: Ken Bickers Way cool!! Pietenpol Air Truck and Delivery Service. On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Douwe wrote: > Well, I can finally officially deduct a Piet trip from my taxes! > > > Had to deliver a statue to Louisville so I shoehorned (safely lashed down) > it into the front seat and flew into beautiful miles field in shelbyville. > Stayed with some friends one of who's mom was an early aviatrix. She flew > travel airs and stuff in england and had this pic on the wall > > Douwe > > > Sent from my iPhone > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:29:05 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead Report From: "Braniff1966" traffic patterns are a suggestion.. only a real idiot and self ceneterd ass would not fly a pattern.. we have been flying the same rectangle pattern for at least 80 years. it works, its safe but there is always some one that thinks they are smarter.. i saw a fellow get his ass whipped big time in fromt of the gas pump because he didnt fly the pattern. this guy flew a left hand pattern when a right hand pattern is clearly published. he made the other guy make a go around so when they met at the pump the big guy cleaned the ramp with the little guys face. it was one of the highlights of my aviation 60 year career.. on a personal note when i was a kid i hit a cessna 210 making a straight in approach at gaineaville , tx muni airport. the guy was an ATP but he thought that the rules and SOPs didnt apply to him. hyde Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427845#427845 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:43:20 PM PST US From: piperj3cubflyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: which holds more oil? Thanks Mike for the smoker system idea! Here a video of my son and myself and he did not know I installed the smoker system! Thanks Jeff N8031 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqNkgQo2e5Q&sns=em Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 31, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Ben Charvet wrote: > > After watching your video, I definitely need smoke. About how long can yo u smoke it on one pump up of the sprayer? Also is it in the archives how yo u made the exhaust fitting, or can you just share that with us ? It looks l ike it works very well, but if you have already done the research on orifice size it could save me some time. > > Ben Charvet > 220 hours on NX866BC > >> On 7/30/2014 11:12 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC] w rote: >> Here are the handy little Lowe=99s or Home Depot garden department p oly spray bottles that I use to pressurize my smoke oil (basically mineral o il) to inject >> into the right rear exhaust pipe of my A-65 engine. Every year I need t o replace the bottle because the old bottles begin to leak as soon as you pu mp them >> up from exposure to the oil after a while. >> >> Last night I installed the new poly bottle and was bummed because it held less fluidor so I thought. >> >> Which one do you think holds more fluid? I was surprised to read that t he container on the right holds 56 oz. and the old bottle on the left holds 5 1 oz. >> I still don=99t believe it and am going to do a little test next ti me I empty out the new smoke oil bottle! (which won=99t take long i f this gorgeous weather keeps up.) > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:06:49 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead Report From: danhelsper@aol.com The "Fun Police" have officially weighed-in.:O(=0A=0A=0ADan Helsper=0A Loensloe Airfield=0APuryear, TN=0A=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFr om: Baldeagle =0ATo: pietenpol-list =0ASent: Sat, Aug 2, 2014 1:59 pm=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead Report=0A=0A=0A--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Baldeagle" =0A=0AI will make the same comment that I think I've made the last couple of years-- =0Ait's time to utilise the standard Brodhead fl yby pattern that's used at the =0AGrass Roots Antique fly-in there in September. I saw airplanes crossing the =0Aairfield upwind, downwind, and crosswind. There were a few doing slo w flight =0Alow enough that if their engine quit they would have no choice but to hit the =0Aground amongst the airplane s and people. All flying from about the gas pumps to =0A the runway should be parallel to landing traffic and downwind legs on the south =0Aside of the airport should be over th e hangars or even south of the hangars. It =0Aonly has to happen once for somebody to pile into the parking area of two =0Aairplanes to collide over the field to ruin everyt hing. The person flying the =0Alight blue Taylorcraft showed very poor judgement, flying low and slow on =0Adownwind for landing almost right over the pavillion.=0A=0A I don't mean to be too curmudgeonly, as I had a great time at the fly-in, =0Abut this is a recurring safety issue, and sho uld be addressed.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A-=0A=0A--------=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0A =0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/view =========================== =========================== =========================== ===========================0A =========================== ============0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:20:32 PM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: cool dusk shot Smoke 'em if you got 'em!! ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:04:01 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Distance LE to front spar From: "Pocono John" Thank you gentlemen. I understand now. -------- John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427849#427849 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:54:18 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A Pietenpol Cousin Very nice, Gerry! A friend owns two.quick (compared to the Piet!) and sturdy little planes. Gary Boothe NX308MB From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Holland Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 10:22 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: A Pietenpol Cousin In an email conversation with Mike Cuy he suggested I circulate some basic details of my Corben Ace as a cousin of the Piet. It too saw the light of day in 1929 as a homebuilt plan. I live in England, the home of a few great Pietenpols and it seems natural to keep an eye on their life here and also the US fraternity and beyond. In fact I have the last Corben in Europe as far as I know. I crashed the second to last in 2012! Oops! Total write off. Mine is around 50+ years old and ex-Savannah, GA, an import. I reassembled it and rebuilt as necessary after buying as a dismantled unit. I sent my very tired A65-8 to be professionally rebuilt and it turns a vintage Flottorp 72" X 50" Prop. Again old but overhauled at Hercules Props. http://www.hercprops.com/ The Corben uses a Clark Y Airfoil full stop and a 26 foot span. It flies beautifully. I decided to go for shabby chic with polished aluminium and latex paint rolled on the rest. Great fun but it does look odd to any observer passing to see an aircraft being rolled with paint. The finish is dull but in keeping. A Thank you to Douwe, Oscar and others for sharing their Piet's. Gave me lots of ideas. If you visit UK give me a shout for a beer. I'm in the West Country in Somerset. Obligatory photo attached. Regards Gerry Gerry Holland gholland@content-stream.co.uk +44 (0)7808 402404 White Ox Mead Airstrip, Bath. England ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 09:32:12 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: fly-ins From: "tools" Let me check it out! Sounds good! Tools Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427850#427850 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 09:44:54 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: fly-ins From: "tools" Need dates and such. Quite possible would be flying DOWN to your field and then in. Sounds like fun and I'd LOVE to see the studio! 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