Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Mon 08/04/14


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 04:25 AM - Flight Test Book Opinions (Michael Perez)
     2. 05:04 AM - Re: Flight Test Book Opinions (larharris2 Harris)
     3. 05:18 AM - Re: Flight Test Book Opinions (larharris2 Harris)
     4. 06:17 AM - Re: Flight Test Book Opinions (Jack Phillips)
     5. 07:30 AM - Re: Flight Test Book Opinions (jarheadpilot82)
     6. 07:33 AM - Re: fly-ins (bender)
     7. 09:24 AM - Drawing two (Pocono John)
     8. 10:12 AM - Re: Drawing two (Don Emch)
     9. 11:13 AM - Re: Drawing two (echobravo4)
    10. 12:01 PM - how far down the stack to inject smoke oil (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
    11. 01:13 PM - Re: Flight Test Book Opinions (jarheadpilot82)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:25:00 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Flight Test Book Opinions
    I have a copy of AC 90-89A, Flight testing Handbook, but am considering pur chasing "Flight Testing Homebuilt Aircraft" by Vaughan Askue. Has anyone re ad this book and if so, your thoughts on it?=0A=0A-=0AIf God is your co-p ilot, switch seats=0AMike Perez=0AKaretakerAero=0AJury Strut Fabrication/In stallation=0A


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    Time: 05:04:22 AM PST US
    From: larharris2 Harris <larharris2@msn.com>
    Subject: Flight Test Book Opinions
    'Flight Testing Homebuilt Aircraft' by Vaughn Askue is an excellent referen ce. Very thorough. The text is descriptive and generic=2C so you will actua lly need to read the book and build your own flight test cards from the inf ormation you learn. The book clearly describes what you need to do in your flight test program. If you only get one reference=2C get this one. Another good reference is 'Flight Test Checklist=2C Homebuilder's Flight Te st Guide' by Jerry Milek. Find it online at the author's website. This is a book of test cards which you may be able to apply with only a few changes to fit your circumstances. Also consider 'Understanding Performance Flight Testing=2C Kitplanes and Pr oduction Aircraft' by Hubert C. Smith. (I think it is long out of print. Lo ok online for a used one that includes the spreadsheet diskette.) Aerodynam ic data reduction to develop your own performance charts. Not only cruise and fuel flow=2C but stuff you need to know like best rate and angle-of-cli mb=2C best glide speed=2C etc. Lorenzo From: speedbrake@sbcglobal.net Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flight Test Book Opinions I have a copy of AC 90-89A=2C Flight testing Handbook=2C but am considering purchasing "Flight Testing Homebuilt Aircraft" by Vaughan Askue. Has anyon e read this book and if so=2C your thoughts on it? If God is your co-pilot=2C switch seatsMike PerezKaretaker AeroJury Strut Fabrication/Installation =0A =0A =0A ============0A ============0A ============0A ============0A =0A


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    Time: 05:18:38 AM PST US
    From: larharris2 Harris <larharris2@msn.com>
    Subject: Flight Test Book Opinions
    Remember that you are trying to do more than just bore holes in the sky for your 40 hours to make sure your plane won't crash. Flight testing can be incredibly boring=2C but you should have the goal to gather some useful data on your plane during the flight test phase. Make a plan=3B write a set of flight test cards=3B use them. Good luck. Lorenzo


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    Time: 06:17:40 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <jack@bedfordlandings.com>
    Subject: Flight Test Book Opinions
    I have a copy of it and highly recommend it. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Perez Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 7:25 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flight Test Book Opinions I have a copy of AC 90-89A, Flight testing Handbook, but am considering purchasing "Flight Testing Homebuilt Aircraft" by Vaughan Askue. Has anyone read this book and if so, your thoughts on it? If God is your co-pilot, switch seats Mike Perez Karetaker Aero Jury Strut Fabrication/Installation


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    Time: 07:30:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flight Test Book Opinions
    From: "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
    Mike, If you subscribe to Kitplanes, they have had an ongoing series of articles over the past year about flight testing. Very informative. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA USMC, USMCR, ATP BVD DVD PDQ BBQ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427924#427924


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    Time: 07:33:14 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: fly-ins
    From: "bender" <dude@twc.com>
    Lee Bottom is having their fly in this year too Sept 19-20. http://www.leebottom.com/ Maybe I can get this little continental mounted by then Jeff Faith sdf Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427925#427925


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    Time: 09:24:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Drawing two
    From: "Pocono John" <tinmotion@yahoo.com>
    Hate to bother you all with these amateur questions. 1) On drawing two, there are cross section drawings of beams, braces, LE and TE. Do those apply to the vert stab/rudder as well as horizontal stab/elevator? I'm guessing yes; just want to confirm. 2) How do I determine the size/profile of the wood on the edges/sides of the tail section (rudder top/bottom, horizontal stab outer edges, elevator inboard/outboard edges)? 3) when making the gussets, did you enlarge the drawing in order to maintain the shape as depicted? Speaking of gussets, I have a lot of mahogany from aircraft spruce I could use. Any problem with mahogany (getting ready to build ribs)? Photos indicate other wood for gussets on tail section. Thank you for your patience with a newbie. -------- John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427942#427942


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    Time: 10:12:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Drawing two
    From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
    Hi John, I don't have the plans in front of me but I think the rudder/fin dimensions of the members are the same. The tail surface plans are pretty complete, so the sizes should be there. As far as the size of the gussets... the idea is to get as much gluing surface area with minimal size, so try to get the gluing area that the prints show. It doesn't have to be super precise and exact. Just make them look about like what the prints show and you'll be fine. Mahogany? Absolutely! Very good stuff. It's stable and has excellent rot resistance. The only problem with it is that when you varnish it you really don't want to cover it! Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427945#427945


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    Time: 11:13:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Drawing two
    From: "echobravo4" <eab4@comcast.net>
    No bother at all- If I remember- I started with some square stock for all those edge pieces- I set up the fence on the table saw to make an angled cut on opposite sides of the square stock so the piece tapered from the thickness of the main beam on one end down to the thickness of the leading edge at the other end. Then I set the fence straight set the blade height to leave the same size shoulder as the leading edge/main beam and , with what you determine To be the inside edge of the piece down, ran both sides through the saw again. That will give you a tapering T shaped piece that should work pretty well. -------- Earl Brown I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427951#427951


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    Time: 12:01:58 PM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: how far down the stack to inject smoke oil
    Jack Textor----sorry it took me a while to check my e-mail but here is a ph oto of where I inject my smoke oil------it is closer than I remember to the exhaust flange but must be good and hot to vaporize the oil! [cid:image001.png@01CFAFF4.EE578D70]


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    Time: 01:13:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flight Test Book Opinions
    From: "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
    Mike, I stand corrected. Although there are indeed some articles in Kitplanes, there is a monthly column called "Flight Testing Techniques" in each issue of the Experimenter Magazine, the online magazine produced by EAA- http://www.eaa.org/en/eaa/aviation-education-and-resources/eaa-magazines-and-publications/eaa-experimenter-magazine/eaa-experimenter-archives These are what I was thinking of. The best part is, the magazines are totally free to anyone (not just EAA members), and downloadable from the link above. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA USMC, USMCR, ATP BVD DVD PDQ BBQ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427975#427975




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