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     1. 04:25 AM - Flight Test Book Opinions (Michael Perez)
     2. 05:04 AM - Re: Flight Test Book Opinions (larharris2 Harris)
     3. 05:18 AM - Re: Flight Test Book Opinions (larharris2 Harris)
     4. 06:17 AM - Re: Flight Test Book Opinions (Jack Phillips)
     5. 07:30 AM - Re: Flight Test Book Opinions (jarheadpilot82)
     6. 07:33 AM - Re: fly-ins (bender)
     7. 09:24 AM - Drawing two (Pocono John)
     8. 10:12 AM - Re: Drawing two (Don Emch)
     9. 11:13 AM - Re: Drawing two (echobravo4)
    10. 12:01 PM - how far down the stack to inject smoke oil (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
    11. 01:13 PM - Re: Flight Test Book Opinions (jarheadpilot82)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Flight Test Book Opinions | 
      
      I have a copy of AC 90-89A, Flight testing Handbook, but am considering pur
      chasing "Flight Testing Homebuilt Aircraft" by Vaughan Askue. Has anyone re
      ad this book and if so, your thoughts on it?=0A=0A-=0AIf God is your co-p
      ilot, switch seats=0AMike Perez=0AKaretakerAero=0AJury Strut Fabrication/In
      stallation=0A
      
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| Subject:  | Flight Test Book Opinions | 
      
      'Flight Testing Homebuilt Aircraft' by Vaughn Askue is an excellent referen
      ce. Very thorough. The text is descriptive and generic=2C so you will actua
      lly need to read the book and build your own flight test cards from the inf
      ormation you learn. The book clearly describes what you need to do in your 
      flight test program. If you only get one reference=2C get this one.
      
      Another good reference is 'Flight Test Checklist=2C Homebuilder's Flight Te
      st Guide' by Jerry Milek. Find it online at the author's website. This is a
       book of test cards which you may be able to apply with only a few changes 
      to fit your circumstances.
      
      Also consider 'Understanding Performance Flight Testing=2C Kitplanes and Pr
      oduction Aircraft' by Hubert C. Smith. (I think it is long out of print. Lo
      ok online for a used one that includes the spreadsheet diskette.) Aerodynam
      ic data reduction to develop your own performance charts.  Not only cruise 
      and fuel flow=2C but stuff you need to know like best rate and angle-of-cli
      mb=2C best glide speed=2C etc.
      
      Lorenzo
      
      
      From: speedbrake@sbcglobal.net
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flight Test Book Opinions
      
      I have a copy of AC 90-89A=2C Flight testing Handbook=2C but am considering
       purchasing "Flight Testing Homebuilt Aircraft" by Vaughan Askue. Has anyon
      e read this book and if so=2C your thoughts on it?
       If God is your co-pilot=2C switch seatsMike PerezKaretaker AeroJury Strut 
      Fabrication/Installation
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| Subject:  | Flight Test Book Opinions | 
      
      Remember that you are trying to do more than just bore holes in the sky for
       your 40 hours to make sure your plane won't crash.
      
      Flight testing can be incredibly boring=2C but you should have the goal to 
      gather some useful data on your plane during the flight test phase. Make a 
      plan=3B write a set of flight test cards=3B use them.
      
      Good luck.
      
      Lorenzo
      
      
       		 	   		  
      
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| Subject:  | Flight Test Book Opinions | 
      
      I have a copy of it and highly recommend it.
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
      
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      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
      Perez
      Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 7:25 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flight Test Book Opinions
      
      
      I have a copy of AC 90-89A, Flight testing Handbook, but am considering
      purchasing "Flight Testing Homebuilt Aircraft" by Vaughan Askue. Has anyone
      read this book and if so, your thoughts on it?
      
      
      If God is your co-pilot, switch seats
      
      Mike Perez
      
      Karetaker Aero
      
      Jury Strut Fabrication/Installation
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Flight Test Book Opinions | 
      
      
      Mike,
      
      If you subscribe to Kitplanes, they have had an ongoing series of articles over
      the past year about flight testing. Very informative.
      
      --------
      Semper Fi,
      
      Terry Hand
      Athens, GA
      
      USMC, USMCR, ATP
      BVD DVD PDQ BBQ
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427924#427924
      
      
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      Lee Bottom is having their fly in this year too  Sept 19-20.
      
      http://www.leebottom.com/
      
      Maybe I can get this little continental mounted by then
      
      Jeff Faith
      sdf
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427925#427925
      
      
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      Hate to bother you all with these amateur questions.
      
      1) On drawing two, there are cross section drawings of beams, braces, LE and TE.
      Do those apply to the vert stab/rudder as well as horizontal stab/elevator?
      I'm guessing yes; just want to confirm.
      
      2) How do I determine the size/profile of the wood on the edges/sides of the tail
      section (rudder top/bottom, horizontal stab outer edges, elevator inboard/outboard
      edges)?
      
      3) when making the gussets, did you enlarge the drawing in order to maintain the
      shape as depicted?
      
      Speaking of gussets, I have a lot of mahogany from aircraft spruce I could use.
      Any problem with mahogany (getting ready to build ribs)? Photos indicate other
      wood for gussets on tail section.
      
      Thank you for your patience with a newbie.
      
      --------
      John
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427942#427942
      
      
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      Hi John,
      
      I don't have the plans in front of me but I think the rudder/fin dimensions of
      the members are the same.  The tail surface plans are pretty complete, so the
      sizes should be there.  As far as the size of the gussets... the idea is to get
      as much gluing surface area with minimal size, so try to get the gluing area
      that the prints show.  It doesn't have to be super  precise and exact.  Just
      make them look about like what the prints show and you'll be fine.  Mahogany?
      Absolutely!  Very good stuff.  It's stable and has excellent rot resistance.
      The only problem with it is that when you varnish it you really don't want to
      cover it!
      
      Don Emch
      NX899DE
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427945#427945
      
      
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      No bother at all-
      
      If I remember- I started with some square stock for all those edge pieces-
      I set up the fence on the table saw to make an angled cut on opposite sides
      of the square stock so the piece tapered from the thickness of the main beam
      on one end down to the thickness of the leading edge at the other end. 
      
      Then I set the fence straight set the blade height to leave the same size 
      shoulder as the leading edge/main beam and , with what you determine 
      To be the inside edge of the piece down, ran both sides through the saw again.
      
      That will give you a tapering T shaped piece that should work pretty well.
      
      --------
      Earl Brown
      
      I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
      intended to be.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427951#427951
      
      
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| Subject:  | how far down the stack to inject smoke oil | 
      
      Jack Textor----sorry it took me a while to check my e-mail but here is a ph
      oto of where I inject my smoke oil------it is closer than I remember
      to the exhaust flange but must be good and hot to vaporize the oil!
      
      
      [cid:image001.png@01CFAFF4.EE578D70]
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Flight Test Book Opinions | 
      
      
      Mike,
      
      I stand corrected. Although there are indeed some articles in Kitplanes, there
      is a monthly column called "Flight Testing Techniques" in each issue of the Experimenter
      Magazine, the online magazine produced by EAA-
      
      http://www.eaa.org/en/eaa/aviation-education-and-resources/eaa-magazines-and-publications/eaa-experimenter-magazine/eaa-experimenter-archives
      
      These are what I was thinking of. The best part is, the magazines are totally free
      to anyone (not just EAA members), and downloadable from the link above.
      
      --------
      Semper Fi,
      
      Terry Hand
      Athens, GA
      
      USMC, USMCR, ATP
      BVD DVD PDQ BBQ
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427975#427975
      
      
 
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