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1. 06:03 AM - Re: FW: Pietenpol Article (Robert Bush)
2. 06:52 AM - Droop IS mythical!! (tools)
3. 07:06 AM - Re: Droop IS mythical!! (Boatright, Jeffrey)
4. 07:10 AM - Jury Strut Structure (Michael Perez)
5. 07:11 AM - Re: Droop IS mythical!! (AircamperN11MS)
6. 07:17 AM - Re: Jury Strut Structure (woodflier)
7. 07:19 AM - Trade new Aeronca Strut forks (I don't need) for turnbuckles (I DO need!). (Jim Markle)
8. 07:23 AM - Re: Droop IS mythical!! (tools)
9. 07:26 AM - Re: control pulleys (nightmare)
10. 07:31 AM - Re: Jury Struts (woodflier)
11. 07:39 AM - Re: Trade new Aeronca Strut forks (I don't need) for turnbuckles (I DO need!). (Michael Perez)
12. 07:47 AM - Re: Pietenpol elevator droop is NOT mythical... (Marcus Zechini)
13. 08:03 AM - Pietenpol "Blitzkrieg" to fly again (Baldeagle)
14. 08:10 AM - Re: Pietenpol "Blitzkrieg" to fly again (Baldeagle)
15. 08:16 AM - Re: Pietenpol "Blitzkrieg" to fly again (tools)
16. 08:21 AM - Re: Pietenpol "Blitzkrieg" to fly again (Baldeagle)
17. 08:31 AM - Re: Re: Pietenpol "Blitzkrieg" to fly again (Michael Perez)
18. 09:23 AM - Re: Trade new Aeronca Strut forks (I don't need) for turnbuckles (jarheadpilot82)
19. 09:45 AM - Re: Droop IS mythical!! (bdewenter)
20. 09:50 AM - Re: control pulleys (bdewenter)
21. 09:52 AM - Re: Droop IS mythical!! (tools)
22. 11:43 AM - A-65 engine (SENTUCHOWS@aol.com)
23. 12:16 PM - Re: Re: Trade new Aeronca Strut forks (I don't need) for turnbuckles (Charles N. Campbell)
24. 01:22 PM - Re: fog shot (Larry Vetter)
25. 01:53 PM - Re: Re: Droop IS mythical!! (Charles Burkholder)
26. 02:18 PM - Re: Droop IS mythical!! (dwilson)
27. 02:22 PM - Re: Droop IS mythical!! (AircamperN11MS)
28. 02:33 PM - Re: Trade new Aeronca Strut forks (I don't need) for turnbuckle (dfwplt)
29. 02:37 PM - builders map/location (wheelharp)
30. 07:59 PM - Re: builders map/location (Braniff1966)
31. 10:57 PM - Re: builders map/location (aviken)
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Pietenpol Article |
Thanks Gary
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 5, 2014, at 9:59 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
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| Subject: | Droop IS mythical!! |
I don't see any!
Ok, maybe there is... perhaps it's just that as a dad I can't see past my son soloing!
Really proud of that kid. Robert took the photo from the Taylorcraft
while I flew. Was a GREAT flight! Robert was also kind enough to get a video
of an entire flight with Scott flying with his Gopro onboard 2RN.
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| Subject: | Re: Droop IS mythical!! |
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| Subject: | Jury Strut Structure |
Looking at the jury strut structure, I am wondering what the purpose is of
the piece that runs from the front jury to the rear jury, at the wing strut
connection. Assuming this piece needs to be installed, can it be flat as o
pposed to round or streamline tube? =0A=0A-=0AIf God is your co-pilot, sw
itch seats=0AMike Perez=0AKaretakerAero=0AJury Strut Fabrication/Installati
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| Subject: | Re: Droop IS mythical!! |
Too Cool.
It is a great feeling to have your kid solo. The Piet none the less. Fantastic.
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Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
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| Subject: | Re: Jury Strut Structure |
Mike, that's for strapping your camp chair to when you fly
to Brodhead.=0A=0A=0AMatt Paxton=0A=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AF
rom: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>=0ATo: pietenpol-list <pi
etenpol-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Wed, Aug 6, 2014 10:11 am=0ASubj
ect: Pietenpol-List: Jury Strut Structure=0A=0A=0A=0ALooking at the
jury strut structure, I am wondering what the purpose is of
the piece that runs from the front jury to the rear jury,
at the wing strut connection. Assuming this piece needs to b
e installed, can it be flat as opposed to round or streaml
ine tube? =0A=0A =0AIf God is your co-pilot, switch seats=0AMi
ke Perez=0AKaretaker Aero=0AJury Strut Fabrication/Installation=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Trade new Aeronca Strut forks (I don't need) for turnbuckles |
(I DO need!).
Wait! Don't order those Aeronca Strut Forks (pn 05-08575) from Aircraft Spruce!
I have two of them I don't need and I DO need 4 turnbuckles. AN130-8S or AN130-16S
would be fine. (The small ones that would be ok for the tail section cables.)
Let me know offline if anyone has a need for the forks and would like to trade....
Thanks!
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| Subject: | Re: Droop IS mythical!! |
Thanks! Getting him to solo was EASY. I just checked his logbook, about 8 hours
total. He's really ONLY ever flown a Piet. Has about 40 hours now.
Getting him to take the written... got my hands full! My nagging isn't going to
do a thing. His desire to take folks for rides... that may do it. Or the fact
he has to wait for me to be home to fly, another thing in my favor! I told
him once he gets his PPL, I'll give him the Piet. Fingers crossed!
It's a double whammie, giving him the Piet MAY finally ge me off my arse to build
my own!
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| Subject: | Re: control pulleys |
im using , and recommend ms24566-2b or 3b depending on cable thickness. ive seen
the all plastic variety used but I wouldnt personally chance it. flight controls
sometimes come in handy. lol
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=0AMike, the cross piece between the struts is what you stra
p your camping chairs to when flying to Brodhead.=0A=0A=0AMatt
Paxton=0ANX629ML=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ALooking at the jury str
ut structure, I am wondering what the purpose is of the pi
ece that runs from the front jury to the rear jury, at t
he wing strut connection. Assuming this piece needs to be in
stalled, can it be flat as opposed to round or streamline
tube? =0A=0A =0AIf God is your co-pilot, switch seats=0AMike P
erez=0AKaretaker Aero=0AJury Strut Fabrication/Installation=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Trade new Aeronca Strut forks (I don't need) for turnbuckles |
(I DO need!).
Hi Jim. I may be able to help you out...I'll have to check my stock at home
. If I had them, they would be the MS Clip Locking variety.- HOWEVER, I d
o not need forks...any chance you have 4, AN42B-17 eye bolts?=0A=0A-=0AIf
God is your co-pilot, switch seats=0AMike Perez=0AKaretaker Aero=0AJury St
rut Fabrication/Installation
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol elevator droop is NOT mythical... |
Douwe:
Some more droop.
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net
> wrote:
> Ck out the "mythical" elevator droop on both these piets. Re-PIET has
> more,
> but they're both down. Very interesting.
>
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| Subject: | Pietenpol "Blitzkrieg" to fly again |
For those who weren't at Brodhead or aren't on Facebook, here are a few photos
of our (Bob Coolbaugh and I) new project. It's an original Air Camper built in
about 1934 or '35 in Grand Rapids, Michigan by a guy named Centilli (trying
to track down his family now to see if they have any photos), and later sold to
a Stan Richards in Ohio, who kept it into the 1960s. It went through a couple
of other owners in Ohio before being sold to Texas, and then showed up on a
trailer at Brodhead last month. The guys from Texas had started to sell it off
piecemeal, and as I watched the parts start to disappear from it I got the
feeling that it was a shame that something that had been together for 80 years
was going to end up as a pile of sticks in a dumpster somewhere. So I told Bob
we had to save it, and we bought the engine and what was left of the fuselage
and tails, and then went around to the people who had bought parts and bought
them back. I think we got everything back except the mag switch, gascolator,
and prop. There was no wing, but we've already found a complete wing, ready
for cover, that was built by Ed Sampson, which is the next best thing to an
original wing, and was offered to us at a very reasonable price.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10482657_10202773342478566_5542576948180958080_n.jpg?oh=d67f79a6990738df3d38055d56feb5bd&oe=543B913A&__gda__=1415008910_706e77e04cc11c7a6e542082396e5a4e
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol "Blitzkrieg" to fly again |
The amazing thing was that a few weeks earlier, on the Flight Archives page on
Facebook, there had been some photos of a really neat looking Pietenpol, and I
had even saved one of them to my computer since I liked the paint scheme so much.
While researching our new project I realised that it was the same airplane.
It's built pretty much to the Flying and Glider plans, except that it looks
like it had the 1933 style split axle landing gear at first, the mount bushings
are still there. At some point it was modified to a Sky Scout style landing
gear, which, along with the spinner and covered front cockpit, gives it a
pretty racy look.
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol "Blitzkrieg" to fly again |
FANTASTIC! Nearly all the tools I own started out in a heap like that. Most folks
sort their garbage and feel good about recycling... THAT is REAL recycling.
Bravo!
"We all die, the goal isn't to live forever. The goal, is to create something
that does." You're doing Centilli a real favor.
Footnote: Ironically I JUST heard that quote on an episode of Criminal Minds,
not half hour ago. Can't remember who said it. Seems appropriate.
Good luck with the project, looking forward to tracking that.
Tools
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol "Blitzkrieg" to fly again |
A lot of people assumed that since the wood was old and dirty it wasn't useable,
but I think as much as 70 or 80 per cent may in fact be saveable. We're going
to try to preserve as much of the original structure as possible.
Also, from the February 1965 Sport Aviation:
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol "Blitzkrieg" to fly again |
This is going to be a very interesting project...one of which I will be wat
ching closely. The documentation already acquired and the possibility of sp
eaking to a family member(s) from owners past is fantastic! I really love t
his kind of stuff and I wish you both the best with this new endeavor.=0A
=0AI noticed the one photo shows stripes on the wings, that would be cool t
o replicate on the finished product...assuming the original paint scheme wi
ll be used.=0A=0A-=0AIf God is your co-pilot, switch seats=0AMike Perez
=0AKaretaker Aero=0AJury Strut Fabrication/Installation
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| Subject: | Re: Trade new Aeronca Strut forks (I don't need) for turnbuckles |
Jim,
If you find no one to swap with you and you want to sell the forks, just reach
me off-line. I would be interested.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
USMC, USMCR, ATP
BVD DVD PDQ BBQ
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| Subject: | Re: Droop IS mythical!! |
Tools,
I met Scotty at tool-stock '14. He's an amazing young man. I'm sure he'll have
no problem with the written exam.
Tool-stock '15?
And in preparation for your new Piet you should visit Barnwell in November for
the Corvair College.
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Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
Dayton OH
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| Subject: | Re: control pulleys |
This and so many more questions are all found in the Tony Bingellis books. If you
don't have them, I suggest going to the EAA web site and ordering them.
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Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
Dayton OH
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| Subject: | Re: Droop IS mythical!! |
Oh ya. Planning on Toolstock 15 South around late Feb or so.
Also planning on having a Toolstock North event here in OSH... no determinations
on when yet though. Need to poll the crowd. That'll be a smaller event much
lesser in scope.
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I have a rebuilt A-65 engine. I did the rebuild. Crank ground by ECI has
.020 rods and .010 mains. Cyl rebuilt. Carb and Case mags rebuilt. No prop
hub. Started on third prop. $1900.
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Trade new Aeronca Strut forks (I don't need) |
for turnbuckles
I'll trade. 4 smaller turnbuckles for the two strut adjusters. Chuck
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:22 PM, jarheadpilot82 <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
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> Jim,
>
> If you find no one to swap with you and you want to sell the forks, just
> reach me off-line. I would be interested.
>
> --------
> Semper Fi,
>
> Terry Hand
> Athens, GA
>
> USMC, USMCR, ATP
> BVD DVD PDQ BBQ
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428104#428104
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Cool shot, but better this way [Wink]
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| Subject: | Re: Droop IS mythical!! |
Hello tools just wondering if you are open to adopting? If you adopt me
I come with a 75% completed Piet project that you could have..... Ha
I hope your son knows how lucky he is.....
Charles B
On 8/6/2014 9:21 AM, tools wrote:
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> Thanks! Getting him to solo was EASY. I just checked his logbook, about 8 hours
total. He's really ONLY ever flown a Piet. Has about 40 hours now.
>
> Getting him to take the written... got my hands full! My nagging isn't going
to do a thing. His desire to take folks for rides... that may do it. Or the
fact he has to wait for me to be home to fly, another thing in my favor! I told
him once he gets his PPL, I'll give him the Piet. Fingers crossed!
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> It's a double whammie, giving him the Piet MAY finally ge me off my arse to build
my own!
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| Subject: | Re: Droop IS mythical!! |
OK! not only does this kid solo a Piet, but he can rib stitch and apply finishing
tapes too ! And so can his girlfriend. Kid has the " Right Stuff ". Congrats
Scott, I'm sure the old man can't get rid of that Piet grin...
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: Droop IS mythical!! |
Tools,
Guess what? That is the exact same way I got my Piet. Dad always told me that
I could have it if I got my PPL. Well, in 1993 that happened but I was 32 not
a 16 year old when I finally got my license. Dad followed through with his
promise. He flew it for 21 years and I guess I have now had it 21 years. Wow,
just realized that. That's something. I always thought that he was the best
dad a guy could have. I guess that there are two of you now.
Awesome job for both of you,
Oh, My name is Scott too,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Trade new Aeronca Strut forks (I don't need) for turnbuckle |
Thanks Chuck,
For some reason I can't find your email address....could you please send me a note
offlist? jim_markle(at)mindspring.com
JM
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| Subject: | builders map/location |
I'm sure it has been covered somewhere as extensive as this list is, but I have
been unsuccessful finding thread if it exists, so I'll break down and ask...
I was wondering how to locate other builders as well as finished Piets- I know
the member pages sometimes show location if you opt to show it, but I'm sure there
are many that don't show up. I missed a Piet that was being built just a
few miles from my house. By the time I found out, it was long gone. ARRGHHH!!!
I would really like to visit fellow builders within driving distance to look at
their project as I build mine.
Thanks!
Jon
Ironton MO (100mi south of St. Louis)
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Jon Jones
Ironton, MO
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| Subject: | Re: builders map/location |
im in granbury, tx my project has the fuse being covered. one wing and crnter
section is finished, tail is built covered and painted, and second wing is one
third done. the gear and motor mount and engine are ready to install.. you are
welcome to to look...phone 817 578 1215
jim hyde
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| Subject: | Re: builders map/location |
Hi buddy.... My name is Kenny Crider and I live in Northeast Arkansas about 30
miles west of Jonesboro. in the Small town of Swifton. You would be more than
welcome to visit . I have my fuselage mostly built sitting on the split axle
type gear with Die spring suspension. at the present I am running control
cables to the rear control surfaces and building my break pedals for my small
go cart type brakes. I have a few,(about 10, wing ribs made, nothing on the
wings or center section built yet. My phone is
870 926-7165... I am attempting to use a Jeep 134 flathead engine which will
be similar to a Ford A... If that don't pan out, it will probably be a 65 continental.
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