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1. 05:14 AM - piet map (Douwe Blumberg)
2. 05:25 AM - seeing the country from a little airplane----off topic (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
3. 06:13 AM - Piet videos from Robert. (tools)
4. 06:30 AM - Re: seeing the country from a little airplane----off topic (larharris2 Harris)
5. 07:07 AM - Re: builders map/location (wheelharp)
6. 07:17 AM - Re: Re: builders map/location (Gary Boothe)
7. 07:21 AM - Re: builders map/location (tools)
8. 07:34 AM - Re: Re: builders map/location (Michael Perez)
9. 07:37 AM - Re: builders map/location (tools)
10. 08:12 AM - Re: builders map/location (echobravo4)
11. 08:46 AM - Re: Re: builders map/location (Ryan Mueller)
12. 11:43 AM - Re: seeing the country from a little airplane----off topic (Dick N)
13. 01:23 PM - Free App - W&B PLUS lots of "what if" analysis (bdewenter)
14. 03:30 PM - Re: Free App - W&B PLUS lots of "what if" analysis (Braniff1966)
15. 03:33 PM - Re: Re: Broadhead photo (Robert Rice)
16. 03:36 PM - Re: Free App - W&B PLUS lots of "what if" analysis (Braniff1966)
17. 03:39 PM - wt and balance (Braniff1966)
18. 03:54 PM - Re: Broadhead photo (tools)
19. 04:52 PM - Re: Free App - W&B PLUS lots of "what if" analysis (bdewenter)
20. 06:50 PM - Re: seeing the country from a little airplane----off topic (bdewenter)
21. 07:54 PM - Re: Free App - W&B PLUS lots of "what if" analysis (Braniff1966)
22. 08:28 PM - Re: Free App - W&B PLUS lots of "what if" analysis (Ken Bickers)
23. 08:41 PM - Re: wt and balance (jarheadpilot82)
24. 08:52 PM - Re: wt and balance (Braniff1966)
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YES!
This is a super idea Ryan!!! Love it!
!!
Douwe
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| Subject: | seeing the country from a little airplane----off topic |
Exactly why it is so much fun to go cross country in a little airplane.
Mike C.
http://bit.ly/1nvDCXF
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| Subject: | Piet videos from Robert. |
1st up, a view from Greg Cardinal's landing gear. The takeoff from Hartford and
the landing at the ultralight field in Oshkosh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQD5x1779tA&feature=youtu.be
2nd, a "selfie" of my son Scott doing a quick lap around the patch in Brodhead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScyHwHRZOZE&feature=youtu.be
Thanks Robert!
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| Subject: | seeing the country from a little airplane----off |
topic
Nice video.
Lorenzo
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| Subject: | Re: builders map/location |
Wow, thanks everyone for the replies, and offers to view projects or rides in flying
Piets! I am still super impressed with how great this group is...I was
on here quite a bit years ago, and was amazed at the caliber of people here. In
ten years, many familiar names are still here-but there are a lot of new ones
too. If anything, the group has gotten better! Anyway, back then I decided I
would never be able to build, get my license and raise a family all at once,
so I bought a powered parachute and have been flying it ever since....but the
urge to build a Pietenpol just won't go away! I have a really nice wood shop,
and still have my 3 Corvair engines I acquired all those years ago for my project.
When I realized 10 years had passed, I thought of how far I could have been
by now. I decided no matter how little progress I might make- I will NEVER
get done if I don't start! I am taking my first "official" flying lesson tonight
after work, and although I have a very involved project in my shop for the
next several months, when that is finished...LOOK OUT! the spruce is gonna fly!
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Jon Jones
Ironton, MO
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| Subject: | Re: builders map/location |
Way to go, Jon! Keep in mind, there's always room for rib jig....
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of wheelharp
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 7:08 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: builders map/location
Wow, thanks everyone for the replies, and offers to view projects or rides
in flying Piets! I am still super impressed with how great this group
is...I was on here quite a bit years ago, and was amazed at the caliber of
people here. In ten years, many familiar names are still here-but there are
a lot of new ones too. If anything, the group has gotten better! Anyway,
back then I decided I would never be able to build, get my license and raise
a family all at once, so I bought a powered parachute and have been flying
it ever since....but the urge to build a Pietenpol just won't go away! I
have a really nice wood shop, and still have my 3 Corvair engines I acquired
all those years ago for my project. When I realized 10 years had passed, I
thought of how far I could have been by now. I decided no matter how little
progress I might make- I will NEVER get done if I don't start! I am taking
my first "official" flying lesson tonight after work, and although I have a
very involved p!
roject in my shop for the next several months, when that is finished...LOOK
OUT! the spruce is gonna fly!
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Jon Jones
Ironton, MO
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| Subject: | Re: builders map/location |
The GMC motorhome community has what's called the "Black List". A gent with the
surname Black started it. GMC motorhomes have a few kinks unique to their design,
and all owners know them and how to deal with them. So, the list was designed
to help owners, where ever they were in the country. I've been called
several times to help a passerby and it works great.
The list contained not only location, but capability. Like whether you had and
were willing to loan front hub tools, can sponsor a motorhome with or without
hookup, etc.
We would probably want to know if hangar space is avail. Recovery capabilities.
Of course, project/plane ownership and status. Not only good for builders
needing info/help, but cross country travelers.
I think the trick is a simple thing like a yahoo group or something. An online,
free repository. Membership is easily controlled within limits. So the list
won't be available to spammers with any effort at all. Isn't like the membership
will be so large that it's important. Pretty easy to cull through and update.
Database fields are easy to set up and could contain the sort of info
we need.
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| Subject: | Re: builders map/location |
Jon, I was in the same kind of situation for years. I was under the impress
ion that flying was for the wealthy and aircraft ownership was for the rich
. So, even though I always dreamed of flying, I never acted on it. Years la
ter, I was educated on the facts that building, owning and flying my own pl
ane were in the realm of possibility for me, so I took immediate action!-
That was six years ago. Today, I am putting the final touches on my plane
and are currently in flight training. I can't afford to take lessons, but I
am making it work. It is a slow process, but I am training when I can affo
rd to and moving towards having a license and getting the plane I built fro
m scratch in the air.=0A=0AStick with it and before you know it, you'll be
at Brodhead telling your building/flying stories to others wanting to do th
e same.=0A=0A=0A-=0AIf God is your co-pilot, switch seats=0AMike Perez=0A
Karetaker Aero=0AJury Strut Fabrication/Installation
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| Subject: | Re: builders map/location |
For grins, just made a yahoo group, pietlist. It's generally open to view, has
one member, me. I made a quick database.
If anyone is yahoo group savvy, put in a request, I'll approve it, make you a moderator
and go from there. Might work, might not, don't cost nothing. Why don't
a couple folks go look, report back, make suggestions.
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| Subject: | Re: builders map/location |
That's pretty cool Ryan
Can you set it so there's more builders closer to me though?
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Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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| Subject: | Re: builders map/location |
Haha....I'll see what I can do. I add you to the queue after Chuck's
drone-strike coordinate request... ;-)
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:12 AM, echobravo4 <eab4@comcast.net> wrote:
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> That's pretty cool Ryan
> Can you set it so there's more builders closer to me though?
>
> --------
> Earl Brown
>
> I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up
> where I intended to be.
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: seeing the country from a little airplane----off topic |
Mike That wasnt nothing. It was done in a Pietenpol about 25 tears ago
by Gerry Speiss. Only Gerry did it around the whole U.S.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 7:25 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: seeing the country from a little
airplane----off topic
Exactly why it is so much fun to go cross country in a little
airplane.
Mike C.
http://bit.ly/1nvDCXF
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| Subject: | Free App - W&B PLUS lots of "what if" analysis |
All,
I decided I wanted to make myself a utility to not only do W&B but also all the
"what if" games such as no fuel, full fuel, watch the effect of fuel burn off
with and without passengers - etc etc and to see the effects on CG.
I also thought it was cool how the Wynn/Mueller articles calculated min and max
pilot weights from EWCG.
So I built myself a windows application to do all this. The "slider" bars make
it very easy and very intuitive to play "what if" scenarios - harder to do in
a spreadsheet typing in numbers one at a time.
Beside the screen shot, I attached a user guide - it will give you the feel for
the apps capability. If you want a copy of the executable, the FAA Weight and
Balance handbook, another excel W&B spreadsheet (all in a zip file) contact
me off list at my email address rdewenter at woh.rr.com
--------
Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
Dayton OH
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/aircraftweightandbalancevisualtool_170.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Free App - W&B PLUS lots of "what if" analysis |
please tell me what your empty cg and weight is and what engine you have..
jim hyde JNL96@yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Re: Broadhead photo |
Ok Tools I just got it. And she likes Mexico... :)=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________
___________________=0A From: aerocarjake <flight.jake@gmail.com>=0ATo: piet
enpol-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 2:59 PM=0ASubject
: Pietenpol-List: Re: Broadhead photo=0A =0A=0A--> Pietenpol-List message p
osted by: "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com>=0A=0AThat's what it's about
...... :-)=0A=0A--------=0AJake Schultz - curator,=0ANewport Way Air Museum
- (OK, it's just my home)=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A
=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428051#428051=0A=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Free App - W&B PLUS lots of "what if" analysis |
ok i see the empty weight.. where is the LE 14.5 measured from? thanks jim JNL96@yahoo.com
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does anyone here have wt and balance data on aa piet with a 65 cont on it??
JNL96@yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Re: Broadhead photo |
NOW you tell me...
Tools
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| Subject: | Re: Free App - W&B PLUS lots of "what if" analysis |
Datum is Firewall...read the document I attached to my post. Are you really a
high school teacher?
Bob Dewenter
Dayton OH
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Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
Dayton OH
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| Subject: | Re: seeing the country from a little airplane----off topic |
Mike,
Thanks for posting this excellent Link!
I know boats != planes
But I have taken yachts from Ohio to Florida and the trip is too cool!
Plane or Boat our country is amazing!
Bob
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Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
Dayton OH
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| Subject: | Re: Free App - W&B PLUS lots of "what if" analysis |
no i aint a high school teacher so what engine are u using and whats it weight
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| Subject: | Re: Free App - W&B PLUS lots of "what if" analysis |
Bob, this is very cool. I'd be delighted to have a copy of the zip file.
One question: any chance that this could be turned into an IPhone app?
Being able to do very quick "on the fly" calculations when giving
passenger rides would be a great thing. Cheers, Ken
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 2:23 PM, bdewenter <anonymouse@woh.rr.com> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I decided I wanted to make myself a utility to not only do W&B but also
> all the "what if" games such as no fuel, full fuel, watch the effect of
> fuel burn off with and without passengers - etc etc and to see the effects
> on CG.
>
> I also thought it was cool how the Wynn/Mueller articles calculated min
> and max pilot weights from EWCG.
>
> So I built myself a windows application to do all this. The "slider" bars
> make it very easy and very intuitive to play "what if" scenarios - harder
> to do in a spreadsheet typing in numbers one at a time.
>
> Beside the screen shot, I attached a user guide - it will give you the
> feel for the apps capability. If you want a copy of the executable, the
> FAA Weight and Balance handbook, another excel W&B spreadsheet (all in a
> zip file) contact me off list at my email address rdewenter at woh.rr.com
>
> --------
> Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
> Dayton OH
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428218#428218
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/aircraft_weight_and_balance_tool_167.pdf
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/aircraftweightandbalancevisualtool_170.jpg
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: wt and balance |
Jim,
If you email Doc Mosher and get his address, you can send him (I think) $10.00
and get the full W&B articles that were done with the W&B info put together by
WIlliam Wynne and Ryan Mueller with plenty of information that you can use.
The last email I had for Doc Mosher was docshop(at)tds.net, but someone else may
have a more accurate one, or may even have his address and can get it to you.
The information is well worth the $10.00, and then some.
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
USMC, USMCR, ATP
BVD DVD PDQ BBQ
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| Subject: | Re: wt and balance |
thanks ill try it
jim
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