Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:19 AM - Re: latex spraying (jim hyde)
2. 04:41 AM - Re: Waynesville/Red Stewart fly-in? (danhelsper@aol.com)
3. 05:11 AM - latex article (Douwe Blumberg)
4. 05:58 AM - Re: Repairman certificate questions (Jack Phillips)
5. 06:08 AM - Re: Motivation (scudrun)
6. 06:18 AM - Re: Re: Motivation (Steven Dortch)
7. 06:42 AM - Re: Tail wheel angle? (scudrun)
8. 07:40 AM - Re: Repairman certificate questions (AircamperN11MS)
9. 08:04 AM - Re: horizontal stabilizer and fuselage (AircamperN11MS)
10. 08:32 AM - Rust (Charles N. Campbell)
11. 08:42 AM - Re: latex paint (gliderx5@comcast.net)
12. 08:44 AM - Re: Rust (jarheadpilot82)
13. 08:52 AM - Re: Re: horizontal stabilizer and fuselage (Ray Krause)
14. 09:01 AM - Re: horizontal stabilizer and fuselage (AircamperN11MS)
15. 09:10 AM - Re: Rust (Don.h@wcoil.com)
16. 09:11 AM - Re: Re: horizontal stabilizer and fuselage (Ray Krause)
17. 10:28 AM - Re: latex paint (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
18. 11:03 AM - beautiful Micro Mong latex paint (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
19. 12:03 PM - Re: Repairman certificate questions (nightmare)
20. 12:45 PM - Re: Repairman certificate questions (dgaldrich)
21. 12:45 PM - Re: Repairman certificate questions (nightmare)
22. 01:06 PM - Re: Re: Repairman certificate questions (Jack Phillips)
23. 01:22 PM - Re: Repairman certificate questions (tkreiner)
24. 01:51 PM - Re: Rust (Jim Brewer)
25. 02:48 PM - Re: Re: Repairman certificate questions (Ryan Mueller)
26. 02:59 PM - Re: beautiful Micro Mong latex paint (gliderx5@comcast.net)
27. 03:40 PM - Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500.00 (nightmare)
28. 05:06 PM - Re: Motivation (Jerry Dotson)
29. 05:21 PM - Re: Re: Motivation (Marcus Zechini)
30. 06:00 PM - Re: Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500.00 (jarheadpilot82)
31. 08:38 PM - Re: Re: Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500.00 (Ryan Mueller)
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| Subject: | Re: latex spraying |
thanks got any pics of the plane? =0A=0A=0AOn Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:0
0 PM, "gliderx5@comcast.net" <gliderx5@comcast.net> wrote:=0A =0A=0A=0ADou
we=0A=0ANice article. Would it be okay to post it on the latex section of w
ienerdogaero.com? I would include a picture that I took of your Piet at Bro
dhead (amazing airplane btw). The more we share, the more we learn.=0A=0AMa
lcolm Morrison=0Awienerdogaero.com=0A=0A=0A________________________________
=0A=0AFrom: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>=0ATo: "Pietenpol
" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:03:06
AM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: latex spraying=0A=0A=0AHey Jim,=0A=C2-=0AHe
re=99s an article I wrote for the BPA which they never published.=C2
- It=99s a lot like what other guys have posted.=0A=C2-=0AGood lu
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| Subject: | Re: Waynesville/Red Stewart fly-in? |
Great Jack! Free brats there too? (kidding) after all I miss
ed the 2014 BratFest at Brodhead!=0A=0A=0ADan Helsper=0ALowensloe
Airfield=0APuryear, TN=0A=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: Jack
<jack@textors.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>=0ASen
t: Thu, Aug 21, 2014 7:07 pm=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wa
ynesville/Red Stewart fly-in?=0A=0A=0A=0ADan will see you there!=0A=0A
Sent from my iPad=0AJack Textor=0A=0A=0AOn Aug 21, 2014, at 6:
29 PM, danhelsper@aol.com wrote:=0A=0A=0A=0ADouwe,=0A=0A=0AI will be
flying the Aeronca over to Blakesburg that weekend...Thursday th
ru Sunday...can't wait!!=0A=0A=0ADan Helsper=0ALoensloe Airfield=0APurye
ar, TN=0A=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: Douwe Blumberg <d
ouweblumberg@earthlink.net>=0ATo: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.c
om>=0ASent: Thu, Aug 21, 2014 7:08 am=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List:
Waynesville/Red Stewart fly-in?=0A=0A=0A=0AAnyone else planning on a
ttending the Waynesville fly-in/air show Labor Day Weekend?=0A =0A
I will be there, WX allowing. Please look me up and say
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Hey Malcom,
You're welcome to use the article, though there's nothing in it I didn't
"lift" from someone else.
FYI, on RE-PIET, the translucent tan parts is simply tinted dope, only the
green fabric areas are latex.
Douwe
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| Subject: | Repairman certificate questions |
Paul,
Anybody can do repairs on an experimental aircraft - not just those who hold
the repairman's certificate. When I had a forced landing in mine that
resulted in a broken axle and cracked lower right longeron, I did all the
repairs myself. I consulted with the FAA FSDO but they said as long as I
sign off the condition inspection they did not need to inspect the repairs.
I hold a Repairman's Certificate for my Pietenpol, which allows me to do
Condition iInspections for it, but not for my RV-4, because I didn't build
the RV.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nightmare
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 10:33 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Repairman certificate questions
<pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
I think I have misunderstood the privileges of the repairman certificate.
Initially thought I could do not only annuals but also any repairs or
alterations on the piet that I qualified for my repairman certificate with.
Is it true that I can only do annuals? (b) The holder of a repairman
certificate (experimental aircraft builder) may perform condition
inspections on the aircraft constructed by the holder in accordance with the
operating limitations of that aircraft.
Let's say I had a hard landing and damaged my gear. Could I repair it my
self?
Question 2. If I am allowed to to work on my piet after it's flying, can
I apply that mx work towards work experience for an A&P license?
Thanks;Paul
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
do not archive
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Picture yourself in this seat......
Disclaimer...this Piet is modified with pushrods.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429075#429075
Attachments:
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It is hard to see myself in that seat...I can't grow a beard like that
until I get totally out of the Army! Doesn't that beard create excessive
drag?
I love these photos, I learn a lot from them.
I really like the windscreens.
Blue Skies,
Steve D.
With a beard, I look like Hamid Karzai.
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 8:08 AM, scudrun <jstreet@uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
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> Picture yourself in this seat......
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> Disclaimer...this Piet is modified with pushrods.
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429075#429075
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Blue Skies,
Steve D
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| Subject: | Re: Tail wheel angle? |
NASA did studies on shimmy. You can find the papers online. I downloaded the
key ones but can't find right now. From what I remember, when the mechanics of
the pivot and angle etc are all done right and there is still shimmy it is most
likely due to tire sidewall flex. When the tire deforms and the contact patch
deflects sideways then the center of friction is offset from the pivot center
line which causes the wheel to change heading. At a certain point a restoring
force is created which causes the sidewalls to flex in the opposite direction
and if all this happens at a rate which is harmonically related to the natural
resonance frequency of the system then you get a powerful shimmy. In this
case a stiffer tire or more air will cure it.
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| Subject: | Re: Repairman certificate questions |
Jack is 100% correct. You can do what ever you want as far as repairs go. The
repairman Cert is for the "Condition Inspection" only. They are not call "annuals"
on an experimental airplane.
If you make any major changes to your plane like going from a Model A to a Cont
engine you would need to comply with what ever your "Operating Limitations" say.
The newer ones generally only require a 5 hour fly off in your designated
area. My plane requires a 40 hour fly off. I have a very old set of "operating
Limitations".
Clear as mud now, Right?
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: horizontal stabilizer and fuselage |
Ray,
If you look closely you can see the stitching. Still difficult to see though.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429091#429091
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/piet_106_114.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/piet_107_124.jpg
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I remember a post about a device to remove rust. It used steel rods on the
inside of a container and (electrically separated) the rusty item
submerged in a solution. I need to do that but can't find the article in
the archives. Does anyone remember the approximate date and the author's
name -- if known? I really need help!!! Chuck
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For anyone interested in latex, I just put a very short video on Youtube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX611NL7eHk&feature=youtu.be , that shows the top wing of the Micro Mong biplane that I'm currently working on. The video shows the difference between polishing and not polishing. Both look great. It just depends in the type of finish that you're looking for. I'm a sucker for smooth and shiny.
Malcolm Morrison
wienerdogaero.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Franklin" <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 7:11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: latex paint
Have you tried this website: http://wienerdogaero.com/Latex.php
This gentleman held a forum at Oshkosh last month and I was able to attend it.
He has achieved some remarkable results and he did use the hvlp sprayers.
Regards,
John Franklin
GN-1 / Corvair 164cid
Prairie Aire 4TA0
Needville, TX
-----Original Message-----
>From: Braniff1966 <jnl96@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Aug 19, 2014 9:59 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: latex paint
>
>
>i am practice painting my heath parasol before i oaint my piety.. anyone with
lots of experience with latex... paint that is..i have researched some web sites.
no one seems to.talk about using an airless.
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>hyde
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Here are two articles.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429096#429096
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/electrolytic_rust_removal_735.pdf
http://forums.matronics.com//files/rust_removal_using_electrolysis_115.pdf
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| Subject: | Re: horizontal stabilizer and fuselage |
Thanks, Scott. Now I see. You have some interesting "stuff" in the rear of that
plane!
Thanks,
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
> On Aug 22, 2014, at 8:03 AM, "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote:
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> Ray,
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> If you look closely you can see the stitching. Still difficult to see though.
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> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429091#429091
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| Subject: | Re: horizontal stabilizer and fuselage |
Oh, all the secret stuff isn't secret any more, or is it? What could all that
strange stuff do? Here's a hint. The black bell crank "rights the wrongs".
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Here you go
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCAQyCkwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D54ADeB6V1rQ&ei=8Gr3U4t9zpjIBP7AgPgD&usg=AFQjCNGqMM0nNMGHj0rM4hlQVRpg4mFemA&bvm=bv.73373277,d.aWw
On 8/22/2014 11:32 AM, Charles N. Campbell wrote:
> I remember a post about a device to remove rust. It used steel rods
> on the inside of a container and (electrically separated) the rusty
> item submerged in a solution. I need to do that but can't find the
> article in the archives. Does anyone remember the approximate date
> and the author's name -- if known? I really need help!!! Chuck
> *
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| Subject: | Re: horizontal stabilizer and fuselage |
I need one, maybe many, of those!
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
> On Aug 22, 2014, at 9:00 AM, "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote:
>
>
> Oh, all the secret stuff isn't secret any more, or is it? What could all that
strange stuff do? Here's a hint. The black bell crank "rights the wrongs".
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> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
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Saw the video, really impressive, I wasn't aware you could create that type
of high gloss finish with latex. You'll have to provide the details of
exactly what you used and how you did it from start to finish. Seeing that I
can only imagine how many others that may be interested in latex paint over
some of the more expensive finishes.
In a message dated 8/22/2014 11:43:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
gliderx5@comcast.net writes:
For anyone interested in latex, I just put a very short video on Youtube,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX611NL7eHk&feature=youtu.be , that shows
the top wing of the Micro Mong biplane that I'm currently working on. The
video shows the difference between polishing and not polishing. Both look
great. It just depends in the type of finish that you're looking for. I'm a
sucker for smooth and shiny.
Malcolm Morrison
wienerdogaero.com
____________________________________
From: "John Franklin" <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 7:11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: latex paint
Have you tried this website: http://wienerdogaero.com/Latex.php
This gentleman held a forum at Oshkosh last month and I was able to attend
it. He has achieved some remarkable results and he did use the hvlp
sprayers.
Regards,
John Franklin
GN-1 / Corvair 164cid
Prairie Aire 4TA0
Needville, TX
-----Original Message-----
>From: Braniff1966 <jnl96@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Aug 19, 2014 9:59 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: latex paint
>
>
>i am practice painting my heath parasol before i oaint my piety.. anyone
with lots of experience with latex... paint that is..i have researched
some web sites. no one seems to.talk about using -Matt
Dralle,===========
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| Subject: | beautiful Micro Mong latex paint |
Malcolm---that is just a beautiful looking result you got using the Sherwin
Williams gloss latex and with buffing it looks even better. Unless you
really want the flat, unfinished look of latex then the that is okay
but yours is the very first latex method I've seen that rivals what we norm
ally see on aircraft and auto finishes. Outstanding looking.
May I ask what your primer coats (if any) are to fill the weave? You've
got some outstanding results there.
Mike C.
Ohio
For anyone interested in latex, I just put a very short video on Youtube, h
ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX611NL7eHk&feature=youtu.be , that show
s the top wing of the Micro Mong biplane that I'm currently working on. The
video shows the difference between polishing and not polishing. Both look
great. It just depends in the type of finish that you're looking for. I'm a
sucker for smooth and shiny.
Malcolm Morrison
wienerdogaero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Repairman certificate questions |
thanks Guys. thats a pleasant surprise!
now for my second question. can I use the time that I built and work on my Piet
towards the experience requirement for the A&P?
I think ill give eaa a call right now and ask.
Jack, your bed and breakfast is on my "gotta fly to" list when my Piet is done.
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
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| Subject: | Re: Repairman certificate questions |
The answer to your question 2 is "not likely". Here's FAR 65.77 Experience Requirements:
Quote
Each applicant for a mechanic certificate or rating must present either an appropriate
graduation certificate or certificate of completion from a certificated
aviation maintenance technician school or documentary evidence, satisfactory
to the Administrator, of
(a) At least 18 months of practical experience with the procedures, practices,
materials, tools, machine tools, and equipment generally used in constructing,
maintaining, or altering airframes, or powerplants appropriate to the rating
sought; or
(b) At least 30 months of practical experience concurrently performing the duties
appropriate to both the airframe and powerplant ratings.
End Quote
The catch phrase is "satisfactory to the Administrator". Your FSDO would be the
point of contact but I'm willing to bet that they would require the experience
to be under the direct supervision of a certified mechanic and all work done
to "certified" standards. I doubt that work on a Ford or Corvair engine would
count as experience toward the powerplant section.
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| Subject: | Re: Repairman certificate questions |
just got off the phone with an EAA tech advisor. Tim Bocenhagen?. Very helpful.
he said that I could use the experience from building the piet toward the experience
requirements of an A&P license. he did say however it is completely up
to the local fsdo inspector how much of that time he would count. this is where
detailed mx logbook entries are important as well as entries from a friendly
A&P to vouch for the authenticity of my logs and quality of tasks performed.
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| Subject: | Re: Repairman certificate questions |
Thanks, Paul.
The short answer to your question on experience building counting towards
you're a&P is "It Depends". When I finished my Pietenpol, I had a fellow
from the Greensboro (I was living in NC at the time) FSDO come out and do
the inspection. I asked him that question directly and he told me that with
the level of documentation I had (detailed work logs and a photo scrapbook
2" thick), the FAA would accept that as experience towards an A&P License.
Since I've moved to Virginia, I've been told that the FSDO in Richmond will
not accept it, since the work was not done on a certificated airplane and
was not required to be of FAA approved quality.
I'd talk with your local FSDO and get whatever they say in writing. The guy
that told me that is long since retired and I wish I had his comments on
paper.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Repairman certificate questions
<pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
thanks Guys. thats a pleasant surprise!
now for my second question. can I use the time that I built and work on
my Piet towards the experience requirement for the A&P?
I think ill give eaa a call right now and ask.
Jack, your bed and breakfast is on my "gotta fly to" list when my Piet is
done.
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| Subject: | Re: Repairman certificate questions |
When I was at OSH a year or two ago, we met with the FAA guys, who were surprisingly
knowledgable and helpful, regarding this subject.
Around that time, EAA started classes for the LSA (only) A&P classes. The classes
run for 40 hours - a full week - if memory serves me correctly and are only
offered at EAA headquarters at Wittman field. The classes run about $3600.
or so.
After taking the classes, you have the A&P ticket to do everything on LSA aircraft.
Fix 'em, sign 'em off, the whole 9 yards.
Now here's the truly neat thing: Once you have 18 months of experience, YOU MAY
SIGN YOURSELF OFF AS HAVING HAD THE EXPERIENCE for the full A&P license, and
voila, your're a full fledged A&P capable of working on any aircraft!
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Charles,
I don't know what you are needing to remove rust from and how quickly
you would like to remove it but if you are not in a great hurry I would
recommend the molasses method. It is cheap and works very well. Here
is a good video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq5IUiYMhRM
You can get the liquid or dried molasses at a farm feed store. Here in
Albemarle, NC you can save money by taking your container with you.
With either method (electrolysis or molasses) you should check the
part and brush off the residue and then put it back in the solution to
finish. This better exposes the surface to the solution. Molasses uses
the chelating process to remove the rust. As the electrolysis video
mentions...DO NOT use stainless steel for the electrodes as it frees the
chromium from the steel and makes the solution a hazardous waste product
that can cause harm. I have used both methods and I like the molasses
method best. One other note, for the electrolysis method you can get
the washing soda (sodium carbonate) at dollar stores or look at swimming
pool stores or big box stores for pH balance. Avoid battery chargers
that are computer controlled. Just use the cheap ones like in the
video. You have to fool the computer controlled ones or they won't
work. The amount of current you put in controls the rate of removal up
to a point. Slower works best. I think you are a neighbor to the
north....right?
On 08/22/2014 11:32 AM, Charles N. Campbell wrote:
> I remember a post about a device to remove rust. It used steel rods
> on the inside of a container and (electrically separated) the rusty
> item submerged in a solution. I need to do that but can't find the
> article in the archives. Does anyone remember the approximate date
> and the author's name -- if known? I really need help!!! Chuck
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Repairman certificate questions |
Tom,
Once you have 18 months you would be able to go for the Airframe *or*
Powerplant
rating, but not both. The full A&P is going to require 30 months
(documented, of course)....
As the Feds note in 65-2, "The documentary evidence specified in 65.77 may
take any of the various forms such as letters from present and former
employers, military service records, business records, etc, as long as the
FAA inspector or advisor who reviews it is able to determine that the type
and amount of experience meets the requirement."
As Jack notes, it can vary from FSDO to FSDO, examiner to examiner, but
generally speaking they are going to want to see proof that you somewhat
continuously used the privileges of your LSRM-A ticket during those 30
months....odds are just tinkering with your own aircraft is not going to be
sufficient. It would lean more towards the amount of experience you accrue
through full-time employment of the ticket during those 30 months.
YMMV, consult with your local friendly FAA reps....
-Ryan
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 3:22 PM, tkreiner <tkreiner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> When I was at OSH a year or two ago, we met with the FAA guys, who were
> surprisingly knowledgable and helpful, regarding this subject.
>
> Around that time, EAA started classes for the LSA (only) A&P classes. The
> classes run for 40 hours - a full week - if memory serves me correctly and
> are only offered at EAA headquarters at Wittman field. The classes run
> about $3600. or so.
>
> After taking the classes, you have the A&P ticket to do everything on LSA
> aircraft. Fix 'em, sign 'em off, the whole 9 yards.
>
> Now here's the truly neat thing: Once you have 18 months of experience,
> YOU MAY SIGN YOURSELF OFF AS HAVING HAD THE EXPERIENCE for the full A&P
> license, and voila, your're a full fledged A&P capable of working on any
> aircraft!
>
> --------
> Tom Kreiner
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429137#429137
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| Subject: | Re: beautiful Micro Mong latex paint |
Mike
Thanks. The polishing is a little extra work, but it really brings out the
shine (if that's what you're after). I used 6 coats of Gliddon Gripper gray
primer, thinned with water, applied with a foam brush, and sanded with 220
grit dry as a base for the color coats and to fill the weave. I'm trying t
o capture as much about the latex process, history, tools, etc as I can on
my site at wienerdogaero.com. There are also links to my webinar, slides, a
nd other folks sites there. Have a look if you get a chance. Any constructi
ve feedback is always appreciated. I'm just trying to share what I, and man
y, many others have stumbled on to on using latex on airplanes. I hope it's
useful.
Malcolm Morrison
wienerdogareo.com
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From: "Michael D. Cuy (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nas
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Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 2:02:21 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: beautiful Micro Mong latex paint
Malcolm---that is just a beautiful looking result you got using the Sherwin
Williams gloss latex and with buffing it looks even better. Unless you rea
lly want the flat, unfinished look of latex then the that is okay
but yours is the very first latex method I=99ve seen that rivals what
we normally see on aircraft and auto finishes. Outstanding looking.
May I ask what your primer coats (if any) are to fill the weave? You
=99ve got some outstanding results there.
Mike C.
Ohio
For anyone interested in latex, I just put a very short video on Youtube, h
ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX611NL7eHk&feature=youtu.be , that show
s the top wing of the Micro Mong biplane that I'm currently working on. The
video shows the difference between polishing and not polishing. Both look
great. It just depends in the type of finish that you're looking for. I'm a
sucker for smooth and shiny.
Malcolm Morrison
wienerdogaero.com
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| Subject: | Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500.00 |
Looks like a great deal for someone looking for a major shortcut. Looks complete
including corvair engine.
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Here is my motivation. Every fly-in I take the Piet to I ask every child that comes
by if they want to sit in my airplane. I wish I had an accurate count but
a good guess that close to 100 kids have played with the stick. I love kids and
have had very little negative results. That warms my heart. Seeing the looks
on their faces is my motivation.
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Jerry Dotson
First flight June 16,2012
Flying in phase 2
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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Do this any chance I get. Great to see kids smile!
On Aug 22, 2014 8:10 PM, "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net> wrote:
> jdotson@centurylink.net>
>
> Here is my motivation. Every fly-in I take the Piet to I ask every child
> that comes by if they want to sit in my airplane. I wish I had an accurate
> count but a good guess that close to 100 kids have played with the stick. I
> love kids and have had very little negative results. That warms my heart.
> Seeing the looks on their faces is my motivation.
>
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> Jerry Dotson
>
> First flight June 16,2012
> Flying in phase 2
> Lycoming O-235 C2C
> Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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| Subject: | Re: Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500.00 |
Paul,
Do you have a link?
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500.00 |
The only $1500 Pietenpol listed on Barnstormers right now is this "treasure
in pieces":
http://www.barnstormers.com/classified_926360_1987+Pietenpol+Aircamper.html
Although they've pictured a VW engine with that one, not a Corvair.....
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 7:59 PM, jarheadpilot82 <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
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> Paul,
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> Do you have a link?
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> Semper Fi,
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