Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sat 08/23/14


Total Messages Posted: 13



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     1. 12:15 AM - Re: beautiful Micro Mong latex paint (jim hyde)
     2. 08:30 AM - Re: Triple Tree Fly-in (gsnewsome)
     3. 11:50 AM - Re: Re: Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500.00 (Andy Hoots)
     4. 12:55 PM - Re: Re: Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500.00 (Jack)
     5. 01:25 PM - Follow the plansb (Steven Dortch)
     6. 01:29 PM - Re: Re: Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500.00 (Gary Boothe)
     7. 01:52 PM - Re: Re: Triple Tree Fly-in (woodflier)
     8. 02:09 PM - Re: Re: Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500.00 (Andy Hoots)
     9. 02:51 PM - Re: Re: Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500.00 (Ray Krause)
    10. 03:07 PM - Re: Re: Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500.00 (Ray Krause)
    11. 03:59 PM - Re: Rust (Charles N. Campbell)
    12. 06:52 PM - Re: Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500.00 (nightmare)
    13. 11:37 PM - Re: Follow the plansb (aerocarjake)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:15:23 AM PST US
    From: jim hyde <jnl96@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: beautiful Micro Mong latex paint
    im following ur lead on my heath... im using sherwin williams primer..i nee d to know what kind of buffing compound u are using..i know that u are usin g glidden but i=C2- had already started=0A=0Ajim hyde =0A=0A=0AOn Friday, August 22, 2014 4:58 PM, "gliderx5@comcast.net" <gliderx5@comcast.net> wro te:=0A =0A=0A=0AMike=0A=0A=0AThanks. The polishing is a little extra work, but it really brings out the shine (if that's what you're after). I used 6 coats of Gliddon Gripper gray primer, thinned with water, applied with a f oam brush, and sanded with 220 grit dry as a base for the color coats and t o fill the weave. I'm trying to capture as much about the latex process, hi story, tools, etc as I can on my site at wienerdogaero.com. There are also links to my webinar, slides, and other folks sites there. Have a look if yo u get a chance. Any constructive feedback is always appreciated. I'm just t rying to share what I, and many, many others have stumbled on to on using l atex on airplanes. I hope it's useful.=0A=0A=0AMalcolm Morrison=0A=0Awiener dogareo.com=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A=0AFrom: "Michael D. Cuy (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>=0ATo: " Pietenpol" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Friday, August 22, 2014 2 :02:21 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: beautiful Micro Mong latex paint =0A =0A=0AMalcolm---that is just a beautiful looking result you got using the S herwin Williams gloss latex and with buffing it looks even better.=C2-=C2 -=C2- Unless you really want the flat, unfinished look of latex then th e that is okay=0Abut yours is the very first latex method I=99ve seen that rivals what we normally see on aircraft and auto finishes.=C2-=C2 - Outstanding looking. =0A=C2-=0AMay I ask what your primer coats (if a ny) are to fill the weave?=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- You=99ve got some outstanding results there.=C2-=C2- =0A=C2-=0AMike C.=0AOhio=0A=C2- =0A=C2-=0AFor anyone interested in latex, I just put a very short video o n Youtube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX611NL7eHk&feature=youtu.be , that shows the top wing of the Micro Mong biplane that I'm currently wor king on. The video shows the difference between polishing and not polishing . Both look great. It just depends in the type of finish that you're lookin g for. I'm a sucker for smooth and shiny.=0A=C2-=0AMalcolm Morrison=0Awie nerdogaero.com=0A=C2-=0A" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?P ietenpol-List=0Ata-mce-href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.m atronics.com=0A_blank" data-mce-href="http://www.matronics.com/contributi =====


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    Time: 08:30:44 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Triple Tree Fly-in
    From: "gsnewsome" <newfaithkat@windstream.net>
    Jack, You may be the only Piet from this forum in attendance. Hope to see you there. Greg Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429172#429172


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    Time: 11:50:59 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500.00
    From: Andy Hoots <eflyerc5@yahoo.com>
    Hi all, I've been a member of the list for a year or so. Haven't posted anything in t he past because I haven't started building yet. I recently retired from a 26 year Air Force career and am in between jobs. Seeing the ad for the Pieten pol project for sale got me thinking about the possibilities of rebuilding/ f inishing a project or just using parts for a new build when I get situated. D oes anyone know the history of this airplane? Any help would be appreciated. Andy Hoots Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 22, 2014, at 23:37, Ryan Mueller <ryan@rmueller.org> wrote: > > The only $1500 Pietenpol listed on Barnstormers right now is this "treasur e in pieces": > > http://www.barnstormers.com/classified_926360_1987+Pietenpol+Aircamper.htm l > > Although they've pictured a VW engine with that one, not a Corvair..... > > >> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 7:59 PM, jarheadpilot82 <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.c om> wrote: tmail.com> >> >> Paul, >> >> Do you have a link? >> >> -------- >> Semper Fi, >> >> Terry Hand >> Athens, GA >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429156#429156 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> br> enpol-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet enpol-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> _blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >


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    Time: 12:55:57 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500.00
    From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
    Andy welcome to the list! Great that your are moving towards a build/projec t? Personally I would pass on the project. I purchased one and was not hap py with the quality even though it was probably airworthy. The only part I u sed were the wheels and tires after completely redoing them. I ended up sel ling or giving the rest away. I think it would take less time and the same m oney to start from scratch. My opinion, take it for what it's worth. You c an see pictures of my build at www.textors.com. Good luck! Sent from my iPad Jack Textor > On Aug 23, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Andy Hoots <eflyerc5@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've been a member of the list for a year or so. Haven't posted anything i n the past because I haven't started building yet. I recently retired from a 26 year Air Force career and am in between jobs. Seeing the ad for the Pie tenpol project for sale got me thinking about the possibilities of rebuildin g/ finishing a project or just using parts for a new build when I get situat ed. Does anyone know the history of this airplane? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Andy Hoots > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 22, 2014, at 23:37, Ryan Mueller <ryan@rmueller.org> wrote: >> >> The only $1500 Pietenpol listed on Barnstormers right now is this "treasu re in pieces": >> >> http://www.barnstormers.com/classified_926360_1987+Pietenpol+Aircamper.ht ml >> >> Although they've pictured a VW engine with that one, not a Corvair..... >> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 7:59 PM, jarheadpilot82 <jarheadpilot82@hotmail. com> wrote: otmail.com> >>> >>> Paul, >>> >>> Do you have a link? >>> >>> -------- >>> Semper Fi, >>> >>> Terry Hand >>> Athens, GA >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429156#429156 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ========== >>> br> enpol-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pie tenpol-List >>> ========== >>> FORUMS - >>> _blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> b Site - >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> ========== >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> npol-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> //forums.matronics.com >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >


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    Time: 01:25:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Follow the plansb
    From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dDzKIireAw -- Blue Skies, Steve D


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    Time: 01:29:42 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500.00
    Hi Andy! It=99s about time you settled down and got to building! If you need some motivation, just north of you is Ray Krause, in Colusa, coming along nicely with his Sky Scout. Then there is Chris Tracy in Sacramento, Mike Weaver in Lincoln (who should be covering this winter), and you=99re always welcome at my hangar. Gary Boothe NX308MB From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 12:55 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500.00 Andy welcome to the list! Great that your are moving towards a build/project? Personally I would pass on the project. I purchased one and was not happy with the quality even though it was probably airworthy. The only part I used were the wheels and tires after completely redoing them. I ended up selling or giving the rest away. I think it would take less time and the same money to start from scratch. My opinion, take it for what it's worth. You can see pictures of my build at www.textors.com. Good luck! Sent from my iPad Jack Textor On Aug 23, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Andy Hoots <eflyerc5@yahoo.com> wrote: Hi all, I've been a member of the list for a year or so. Haven't posted anything in the past because I haven't started building yet. I recently retired from a 26 year Air Force career and am in between jobs. Seeing the ad for the Pietenpol project for sale got me thinking about the possibilities of rebuilding/ finishing a project or just using parts for a new build when I get situated. Does anyone know the history of this airplane? Any help would be appreciated. Andy Hoots Sent from my iPhone On Aug 22, 2014, at 23:37, Ryan Mueller <ryan@rmueller.org> wrote: The only $1500 Pietenpol listed on Barnstormers right now is this "treasure in pieces": http://www.barnstormers.com/classified_926360_1987+Pietenpol+Aircamper.ht ml Although they've pictured a VW engine with that one, not a Corvair..... On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 7:59 PM, jarheadpilot82 <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com> wrote: <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com> Paul, Do you have a link? -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429156#429156 br> enpol-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List FORUMS - _blank">http://forums.matronics.com b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D npol-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D //forums.matronics.com D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D npol-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D //forums.matronics.com D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D


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    Time: 01:52:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Triple Tree Fly-in
    From: woodflier <woodflier@aol.com>
    Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Tablet I'm planning on flying my Piet down from Virginia. Matt Paxton gsnewsome <newfaithkat@windstream.net> wrote: Jack, You may be the only Piet from this forum in attendance. Hope to see you there. Greg Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429172#429172


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    Time: 02:09:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500.00
    From: Andy Hoots <eflyerc5@yahoo.com>
    Thanks For the offer Gary. I've since moved to MI (although probably tempora rily). I really enjoyed coming up and tAking a look at your airplane a few m onths ago. What a beautiful bird! The pictures, and the info you and Chris w ere able to give me will serve me well when I finally start cutting wood. B y the way, I really am missing the NorCal flying weather about now. Daily th understorms and the humidity cuts the visibility to 10 miles at best. Andy Hoots Linwood, MI Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2014, at 16:28, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > > Hi Andy! > > It=99s about time you settled down and got to building! If you need s ome motivation, just north of you is Ray Krause, in Colusa, coming along nic ely with his Sky Scout. Then there is Chris Tracy in Sacramento, Mike Weaver in Lincoln (who should be covering this winter), and you=99re always w elcome at my hangar. > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 12:55 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500. 00 > > Andy welcome to the list! Great that your are moving towards a build/proj ect? Personally I would pass on the project. I purchased one and was not h appy with the quality even though it was probably airworthy. The only part I used were the wheels and tires after completely redoing them. I ended up s elling or giving the rest away. I think it would take less time and the sam e money to start from scratch. My opinion, take it for what it's worth. Yo u can see pictures of my build at www.textors.com. > Good luck! > > Sent from my iPad > Jack Textor > > On Aug 23, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Andy Hoots <eflyerc5@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've been a member of the list for a year or so. Haven't posted anything i n the past because I haven't started building yet. I recently retired from a 26 year Air Force career and am in between jobs. Seeing the ad for the Pie tenpol project for sale got me thinking about the possibilities of rebuildin g/ finishing a project or just using parts for a new build when I get situat ed. Does anyone know the history of this airplane? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Andy Hoots > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 22, 2014, at 23:37, Ryan Mueller <ryan@rmueller.org> wrote: > > The only $1500 Pietenpol listed on Barnstormers right now is this "treasur e in pieces": > > http://www.barnstormers.com/classified_926360_1987+Pietenpol+Aircamper.htm l > > Although they've pictured a VW engine with that one, not a Corvair..... > > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 7:59 PM, jarheadpilot82 <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.co m> wrote: mail.com> > > Paul, > > Do you have a link? > > -------- > Semper Fi, > > Terry Hand > Athens, GA > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429156#429156 > > > > > > > > ========== > br> enpol-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piete npol-List > ========== > FORUMS - > _blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > > > > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > npol-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > //forums.matronics.com > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > npol-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > //forums.matronics.com > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >


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    Time: 02:51:22 PM PST US
    From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500.00
    Hi Gang, Just had a great visit with a new builder, Brian who was raised in Davis, Ca , but now works for Boeing in Seattle as an aerospace engineer. He is only 2 5, graduated in engineering from ERU in Florida and made initial contact wit h this forum in the last few weeks. He has started on his Piet and has just f inished the fuselage sides. It is exciting seeing a "young one" starting to b uild a Piet. He is not married, so lots of time to build it! What a dream t hat would be for all of us! I just advised him to buy an old salvage Piet from a friend of his near Seat tle! If he can get it for a good price, he would easily save a lot of money o n parts and pieces. It has the gear, wheels, all the hardware, turnbuckles, e tc. Depending on the quality, it could well be worth a fair salvage price. M aybe, even the one in MI would be worth $1500, depending on what's there. Es pecially if the seller would cut it up and put it in a 4' X 4' for box and s hip it to you. Knowing what I know now, I would have considered it... If it R EALLY HAS ALL THE PARTS! Anyway, really nice to see him, and bring so young, he will bring a lot to t he team! Welcome aboard, Brian. And thanks for the visit. It was great, but too short, Ray Krause And PS: everyone is welcome. Sent from my iPad > On Aug 23, 2014, at 1:28 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > > Hi Andy! > > It=99s about time you settled down and got to building! If you need s ome motivation, just north of you is Ray Krause, in Colusa, coming along nic ely with his Sky Scout. Then there is Chris Tracy in Sacramento, Mike Weaver in Lincoln (who should be covering this winter), and you=99re always w elcome at my hangar. > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 12:55 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500. 00 > > Andy welcome to the list! Great that your are moving towards a build/proj ect? Personally I would pass on the project. I purchased one and was not h appy with the quality even though it was probably airworthy. The only part I used were the wheels and tires after completely redoing them. I ended up s elling or giving the rest away. I think it would take less time and the sam e money to start from scratch. My opinion, take it for what it's worth. Yo u can see pictures of my build at www.textors.com. > Good luck! > > Sent from my iPad > Jack Textor > > On Aug 23, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Andy Hoots <eflyerc5@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've been a member of the list for a year or so. Haven't posted anything i n the past because I haven't started building yet. I recently retired from a 26 year Air Force career and am in between jobs. Seeing the ad for the Pie tenpol project for sale got me thinking about the possibilities of rebuildin g/ finishing a project or just using parts for a new build when I get situat ed. Does anyone know the history of this airplane? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Andy Hoots > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 22, 2014, at 23:37, Ryan Mueller <ryan@rmueller.org> wrote: > > The only $1500 Pietenpol listed on Barnstormers right now is this "treasur e in pieces": > > http://www.barnstormers.com/classified_926360_1987+Pietenpol+Aircamper.htm l > > Although they've pictured a VW engine with that one, not a Corvair..... > > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 7:59 PM, jarheadpilot82 <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.co m> wrote: mail.com> > > Paul, > > Do you have a link? > > -------- > Semper Fi, > > Terry Hand > Athens, GA > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429156#429156 > > > > > > > > ========== > br> enpol-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piete npol-List > ========== > FORUMS - > _blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > > > > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > npol-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > //forums.matronics.com > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > npol-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > //forums.matronics.com > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >


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    Time: 03:07:26 PM PST US
    From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500.00
    Andy Hoots, Andy, although you are in MI, now, you are welcome to come to my shop for a v isit, if you are ever back in CA again. If you are close to the Piet salvag e, you should inspect it to see what is there. If the gear, turnbuckles and p ulleys are there, it is well worth $1500 in my estimate. Turnbuckles are $40 each, pulleys another $12 each, aileron and elevator and rudder horns, bell cranks, fitting are all valuable. And there are instruments, switches, fuel tank(s) that might be useable. Could be a good thing. Thanks, Ray Krause Sent from my iPad > On Aug 23, 2014, at 1:28 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > > Hi Andy! > > It=99s about time you settled down and got to building! If you need s ome motivation, just north of you is Ray Krause, in Colusa, coming along nic ely with his Sky Scout. Then there is Chris Tracy in Sacramento, Mike Weaver in Lincoln (who should be covering this winter), and you=99re always w elcome at my hangar. > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 12:55 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500. 00 > > Andy welcome to the list! Great that your are moving towards a build/proj ect? Personally I would pass on the project. I purchased one and was not h appy with the quality even though it was probably airworthy. The only part I used were the wheels and tires after completely redoing them. I ended up s elling or giving the rest away. I think it would take less time and the sam e money to start from scratch. My opinion, take it for what it's worth. Yo u can see pictures of my build at www.textors.com. > Good luck! > > Sent from my iPad > Jack Textor > > On Aug 23, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Andy Hoots <eflyerc5@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've been a member of the list for a year or so. Haven't posted anything i n the past because I haven't started building yet. I recently retired from a 26 year Air Force career and am in between jobs. Seeing the ad for the Pie tenpol project for sale got me thinking about the possibilities of rebuildin g/ finishing a project or just using parts for a new build when I get situat ed. Does anyone know the history of this airplane? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Andy Hoots > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 22, 2014, at 23:37, Ryan Mueller <ryan@rmueller.org> wrote: > > The only $1500 Pietenpol listed on Barnstormers right now is this "treasur e in pieces": > > http://www.barnstormers.com/classified_926360_1987+Pietenpol+Aircamper.htm l > > Although they've pictured a VW engine with that one, not a Corvair..... > > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 7:59 PM, jarheadpilot82 <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.co m> wrote: mail.com> > > Paul, > > Do you have a link? > > -------- > Semper Fi, > > Terry Hand > Athens, GA > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429156#429156 > > > > > > > > ========== > br> enpol-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piete npol-List > ========== > FORUMS - > _blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > > > > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > npol-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > //forums.matronics.com > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > npol-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > //forums.matronics.com > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >


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    Time: 03:59:31 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rust
    From: "Charles N. Campbell" <charlescampbell1924@gmail.com>
    Yes, Jim, I live in Salisbury. Just moved here from Winston-Salem about a year ago. I'm still plugging along. Some of the parts for my engine (valve cover hardware and covers, primarily and some of my unused sheet steel has developed a little rust that I need to get rid of and then a coat of metal primer. Chuck On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Jim Brewer <alpha@concordnc.com> wrote: > Charles, > I don't know what you are needing to remove rust from and how quickly you > would like to remove it but if you are not in a great hurry I would > recommend the molasses method. It is cheap and works very well. Here is a > good video: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq5IUiYMhRM > > You can get the liquid or dried molasses at a farm feed store. Here in > Albemarle, NC you can save money by taking your container with you. With > either method (electrolysis or molasses) you should check the part and > brush off the residue and then put it back in the solution to finish. This > better exposes the surface to the solution. Molasses uses the chelating > process to remove the rust. As the electrolysis video mentions...DO NOT > use stainless steel for the electrodes as it frees the chromium from the > steel and makes the solution a hazardous waste product that can cause > harm. I have used both methods and I like the molasses method best. One > other note, for the electrolysis method you can get the washing soda > (sodium carbonate) at dollar stores or look at swimming pool stores or big > box stores for pH balance. Avoid battery chargers that are computer > controlled. Just use the cheap ones like in the video. You have to fool > the computer controlled ones or they won't work. The amount of current you > put in controls the rate of removal up to a point. Slower works best. I > think you are a neighbor to the north....right? > > On 08/22/2014 11:32 AM, Charles N. Campbell wrote: > > I remember a post about a device to remove rust. It used steel rods on > the inside of a container and (electrically separated) the rusty item > submerged in a solution. I need to do that but can't find the article in > the archives. Does anyone remember the approximate date and the author's > name -- if known? I really need help!!! Chuck > > > * > > > * > >


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    Time: 06:52:53 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Barnstormers PietenpolJoshuaharel $1,500.00
    From: "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
    thats the one I was referring to Ryan. sorry for the engine confusion. -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429195#429195


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    Time: 11:37:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Follow the plansb
    From: "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com>
    Awesome - thx for posting.... Fun thing to watch after a full day in the shop. (i followed the instructions) -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429198#429198




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