---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 08/27/14: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:54 AM - Re: Re: Spring Landing Gear. (Charles Burkholder) 2. 04:36 AM - Re: Re: Spring Landing Gear. (Ryan Mueller) 3. 04:46 AM - Re: Re: Spring Landing Gear. (Gloriabots) 4. 06:48 AM - Re: Spring Landing Gear. (jarheadpilot82) 5. 09:08 AM - Pin Hole Fix-Oil Tank (Michael Perez) 6. 09:19 AM - Re: Pin Hole Fix-Oil Tank (giacummo) 7. 10:33 AM - Re: Pin Hole Fix-Oil Tank (JVG) 8. 10:42 AM - Re: Pin Hole Fix-Oil Tank (Jack Phillips) 9. 05:42 PM - Re: Pin Hole Fix-Oil Tank (dgaldrich) 10. 07:08 PM - Re: Pin Hole Fix-Oil Tank (Jerry Dotson) 11. 10:14 PM - Re: More notes on CG, axle location and weight (taildrags) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:54:34 AM PST US From: Charles Burkholder Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Spring Landing Gear. Thankyou folks. My next question is where did you all get the steel springs? On 8/26/2014 7:11 AM, jarheadpilot82 wrote: > > Charles, > > Here is another way of doing it, from William Wynne's website- > > http://flycorvair.net/2012/10/27/new-die-spring-landing-gear-on-a-pietenpol-10-a-m-4-p-m/ > > -------- > Semper Fi, > > Terry Hand > Athens, GA > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429340#429340 > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > -- Charles Burkholder Visit my blog @ http://missionmechfund.blogspot.ca/ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:36:10 AM PST US From: Ryan Mueller Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Spring Landing Gear. Charles, In the text below the picture of the spring, William notes: "The springs are available from A/C spruce for about $100. Their rating is 1200 pounds per inch. They are 1=B3 ID, 2=B3 OD, and 6=B3 long ." http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/shockabsorb.php?clickkey=35 16 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Charles Burkholder wrote: > born2fly@abcmailbox.net> > > Thankyou folks. My next question is where did you all get the steel > springs? > > On 8/26/2014 7:11 AM, jarheadpilot82 wrote: > >> jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com> >> >> Charles, >> >> Here is another way of doing it, from William Wynne's website- >> >> http://flycorvair.net/2012/10/27/new-die-spring-landing- >> gear-on-a-pietenpol-10-a-m-4-p-m/ >> >> -------- >> Semper Fi, >> >> Terry Hand >> Athens, GA >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429340#429340 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> >> >> > -- > Charles Burkholder > Visit my blog @ http://missionmechfund.blogspot.ca/ > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:46:07 AM PST US From: Gloriabots Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Spring Landing Gear. Charles I used these in WW Landing Struts. They are great and provide good shock absorption. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/shockabsorb.php?clickkey=3516 Regards Gerry ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:48:17 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Spring Landing Gear. From: "jarheadpilot82" Charles, Attached is a copy of my invoice from a Company called Diamond Wire. Better price than ACS. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429444#429444 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/diamondwire_invoice_640.pdf ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:08:37 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pin Hole Fix-Oil Tank =0AIt appears I have a small pin =0Ahole in my oil tank that ever so slight ly weeps oil down the outside. Is there something I can apply to the outsid e to seal it, or am I forced =0Ato remove the tank, clean it and weld/braze it?=0A-=0AIf God is your co-pilot, switch seats=0AMike Perez=0AKaretaker Aero=0AInitial assembly complete. Winter storage disassembly/more engine ru ns to commence.=0A ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:19:12 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pin Hole Fix-Oil Tank From: "giacummo" Hello, Jack Textor recomended me the following to seal my tank: Hi Mario I thought riveting would be easier than welding. I used pop rivets and sealed with something like proseal. Here is where I got it. I used the quart. http://vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?ident=1377849717-132-612&browse=misc&product=proseal I've tested with air and it looks ok. may be can help. regards -------- Mario Giacummo Photos here: http://goo.gl/wh7M4 Little Blog : http://vgmk1.blogspot.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429463#429463 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:33:32 AM PST US From: "JVG" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pin Hole Fix-Oil Tank My son poked a pretty good hole in his oil pan on his car and I drained the oil, cleaned the hole with alcohol and sanded around the hole. Then applied JB Weld. After it dried for 24 hours I sanded it again and applied another coat. Never had a leak after that and he had the car for 6 years after that. Jerry Skyclassic Aircraft From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Perez Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 11:08 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pin Hole Fix-Oil Tank It appears I have a small pin hole in my oil tank that ever so slightly weeps oil down the outside. Is there something I can apply to the outside to seal it, or am I forced to remove the tank, clean it and weld/braze it? If God is your co-pilot, switch seats Mike Perez Karetaker Aero Initial assembly complete. Winter storage disassembly/more engine runs to commence. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:42:42 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pin Hole Fix-Oil Tank I'd weld it, but that's just me. Problem is, if you don't fix it, every time you see oil, you'll wonder if it is the pinhole or something more serious leaking. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Perez Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 12:08 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pin Hole Fix-Oil Tank It appears I have a small pin hole in my oil tank that ever so slightly weeps oil down the outside. Is there something I can apply to the outside to seal it, or am I forced to remove the tank, clean it and weld/braze it? If God is your co-pilot, switch seats Mike Perez Karetaker Aero Initial assembly complete. Winter storage disassembly/more engine runs to commence. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:42:15 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pin Hole Fix-Oil Tank From: "dgaldrich" Might be worthwhile removing the tank and inspecting the inside. The pinhole may be the first external sign of more widespread internal issues. Regardless of the repair method (I side with Jack) it'll be easier to clean and prep with the tank on a clean workbench. You've published pictures of your shop so I KNOW you're workbenches are clean. Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429502#429502 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:08:20 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pin Hole Fix-Oil Tank From: "Jerry Dotson" What Dave and Jack said. You will be proud you did. Repair and forget it. I have no problem with JB Weld. It is good stuff.but if it were mine I would braze it up. -------- Jerry Dotson First flight June 16,2012 Flying in phase 2 Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429506#429506 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:14:33 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: More notes on CG, axle location and weight From: "taildrags" I gave William all of my W&B information, along with measurements, when he was assembling his database of Piet CGs, axle locations, and weights, so I'm not providing any new information here... just repeating another data point for those who do not have the complete listing of all the airplanes that William and others have put together. Since the stated purpose of the Experimental category for aircraft is for research and education, I'm certainly being educated by the research that is being conducted here and would like to help with that as well. NX41CC has an empty weight of 636 lbs., an empty CG location 12.2" aft of the wing leading edge datum, and the main gear axles are 5.8" aft of that leading edge datum... certainly not within the 0-3" range recommended by Mr. Pietenpol. The wing on my airplane is canted aft by pivoting on the cabanes, 3.5" if I remember correctly, but you can already see that my airplane fits "the pattern" that William is trying to point out. My airplane has brakes and it has been on its back, but the proximate cause of its ending up there was that the landing gear folded up after a weld broke during an engine-out, off-airport landing to an unimproved field. My airplane now has an A75 but it previously had an A65 and I have experience carrying passengers in both configurations. The point that William was trying to make with one of the questions in his "quiz" is that climb rate is a factor of excess thrust, and excess thrust is defined as any that is available over and above that which is required to overcome drag. My airplane with the A65 had enough thrust to overcome the drag and make some climb, but the A75 has more excess thrust and so can produce better climb. Put 90-100 HP on the nose and that's 15-25 HP of even more excess thrust that can be generated and you see that anything you add is going to be excess and can contribute to climb (with the right propeller). Switch off again. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429508#429508 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.