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1. 05:50 AM - Re: W & B, CG, and LG location question (GrantZ)
2. 07:10 AM - Evening flight (Jeff Boatright)
3. 07:24 AM - Re: Evening flight (Gary Boothe)
4. 07:40 AM - FW: Smoke (Gary Boothe)
5. 07:48 AM - Re: Evening flight (Jeff Boatright)
6. 07:58 AM - Re: Smoke (Jeff Boatright)
7. 08:12 AM - Re: Re: Smoke (Gary Boothe)
8. 01:19 PM - Re: Evening flight (Ray Krause)
9. 04:31 PM - Re: Evening flight (Jeff Boatright)
10. 05:31 PM - Re: Re: Used Pietenpol plans (Doug)
11. 05:42 PM - Re: Used Pietenpol plans (Dan P)
12. 08:09 PM - Re: Pietenpol "Blitzkrieg" to fly again (Baldeagle)
13. 08:13 PM - Vi Kapler hinge re-bushing (taildrags)
14. 09:10 PM - Re: Re: Evening flight (Ray Krause)
15. 09:18 PM - Re: Pietenpol "Blitzkrieg" to fly again (Baldeagle)
16. 09:28 PM - Re: Pietenpol "Blitzkrieg" to fly again (aerocarjake)
17. 09:45 PM - Re: Re: Pietenpol "Blitzkrieg" to fly again (Ray Krause)
18. 09:53 PM - Re: More notes on CG, axle location and weight (AG)
19. 09:59 PM - Re: FW: Smoke (Ray Krause)
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| Subject: | Re: W & B, CG, and LG location question |
William,
Thanks for the assistance on this issue.
Here is the info you needed.
1) 100 hp Corvair with 2 bladed Warp Drive prop
2) 174 inches from front of firewall to tail post. I have added 2 inches to the
first bay of
the long fuselage version to get a little more leg room
3) Let's use 225 to allow for some winter flying clothes. Normal summer weight
should
be a max of 215
Thanks again for the help. I look forward to seeing the full calculation.
Grant Ziebell
Savannah, TN
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Just some floobydust for your Labor Day weekend:
http://youtu.be/ZdcKXbX8eVw
Hope you get a chance to fly or work on your project this weekend!
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Nice, Jeff! I tried a tail-mounted camera, too, and got way too much
vibration. Yours isn't too bad.
Gary Boothe
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Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 7:10 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Evening flight
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Just some floobydust for your Labor Day weekend:
http://youtu.be/ZdcKXbX8eVw
Hope you get a chance to fly or work on your project this weekend!
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For those not on Facebook.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttAXGGc-IoY
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttAXGGc-IoY&feature=youtu.be>
&feature=youtu.be
Gary Boothe
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| Subject: | Re: Evening flight |
Thanks, Gary. That was a very peaceful evening.
For those who don't care for the music, there is a "naked" version at:
http://youtu.be/byXrhoBYfHg?list=UUSToJirZgmDJ6HKusAkowDQ
It's too bad that there's so much jitter on the tail-mounted camera. I guess I'll
go back to using the PVC "boom" on the left wing.
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You know those things are addictive, right?
[Wink]
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I could quit anytime.... ;-)
Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: Evening flight |
Jeffery,
Absolutely beautiful!
Observations: how do you fly that plane sitting backwards in the cockpit? Note
the first couple of views right after takeoff.
You have your rudder horns below the elevators? I did the same on my SkyScout.
I know, it is not that way on the plans, but it should make the steerable tail
wheel easier to operate.
Thanks for the great inspiration,
Ray Krause
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> On Aug 31, 2014, at 7:09 AM, "Jeff Boatright" <jeffboatright@emory.edu> wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Evening flight |
Hi Ray,
Thanks for the kind words. I just got lucky -- the beauty was there for the camera.
My wife noticed that face, too. Sort of a Bert and Ernie look.
Yep, my rudder control horns are below the horizontal stab. I didn't build the
plane originally (though I've disassembled/reassembled it twice and rebuilt the
forward fuselage once).
I have always thought that the Skyscout was a very, very cool airplane. Do you
have any pix of yours? What will you power it with? I've also always wondered
if, given that I've been told it's the same design as the Aircamper but weigh
less, how many Gs can it take?
Jeff
Ray Krause wrote:
> Jeffery,
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> Observations: how do you fly that plane sitting backwards in the cockpit? Note
the first couple of views right after takeoff.
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> You have your rudder horns below the elevators? I did the same on my SkyScout.
I know, it is not that way on the plans, but it should make the steerable tail
wheel easier to operate.
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> Ray Krause
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| Subject: | Re: Used Pietenpol plans |
They're worth $0 to someone with ethics.
Doug Dever
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In beautiful Stow Ohio
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Used Pietenpol plans
> From: dlplett@swko.net
> Date: Sat=2C 30 Aug 2014 20:05:52 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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> > The plans came with the Pietenol. The Piet is long gone and I still ha
ve plans. By count there a 19 sheets all together. I no longer need the
plans. What is something like this worth and is anyone interested?
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| Subject: | Re: Used Pietenpol plans |
Doug. How do you figure that?
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Dan Plett
N28WH
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol "Blitzkrieg" to fly again |
And eureka, from the daughter in law of one of the original builders. Grand Rapids,
Michigan, about 1935. On the left is Charlie Centilli, on the right his
brother Walter, and in the middle is their brother in law Al Weller. This is
a hand tinted color photo, the original color is more of a bright yellow, judging
from what's left on scraps of fabric. Trim color is probably black, and
the scheme is based on a common scheme used on Heath Parasols at the time. According
to a census of the time found on ancestry.com the Centilli brothers worked
at a furniture factory, so would've been skilled in wood work.
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| Subject: | Vi Kapler hinge re-bushing |
Hello, Pieters-
Among the tools and parts that I got from Vi Kapler when I purchased the rights
and the "tooling" for the cast hinges was a jig and instructions from Vi on re-bushing
the pivot pin holes in the hinge castings. According to the instructions
that he wrote (by hand, all of them), Vi says that when a set of hinges
has 750-1000 hours on them some play may develop due to wear. The fix is to re-bush
the pivot pin holes with brass sleeve inserts.
If there are any Piets out there that have noticeable play in their Kapler hinges
and have flying hours up in the range that Vi mentions, I would be happy to
re-bush your set of 9 pairs of hinges for $20 plus return postage, which is $6
in the small USPS prepaid box. For overseas, I'll have to check with the USPS
to see what it might cost to ship them back to you. Of course you'll have
to remove your tail surfaces to remove the hinges, and if you've covered over
them with fabric, you'll have to use an XActo knife to cut away the fabric to
get to them. This operation is something that is best done during winter when
you're not flying or when you have the airplane down for annual condition inspection.
I am no longer on the Matronics list and only check the forum periodically, so
if you are interested in having your hinges re-bushed, contact me directly at
taildrags@hotmail.com or I likely won't see your response.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: Evening flight |
Jeff,
I will be using an A-65, just overhauled and hopefully putting out the full 6
5 hp. Unfortunately, I have not been trying to be too "light weight" minded.
I may come in on the heavy side. It is built to plans, save for a few thing
s like the rudder horns, tail wheel and extra blocks here and there. Not sur
e it it's G loading could be any greater than the Aircamper with only on per
son up. It is the same wing, shorter fuselage, same tail, motor mount, etc. I
have been told it performs better because it is lighter, but I don't know i
f that will be true. I'm sure it will perform better than my Aeronca in cli
mb, but maybe not speed. But I think it will be a blast...just like your!
I will attach some pictures, maybe too large...
Sent from my iPad
> On Aug 31, 2014, at 4:31 PM, "Jeff Boatright" <jeffboatright@emory.edu> wr
ote:
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y.edu>
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> Hi Ray,
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> Thanks for the kind words. I just got lucky -- the beauty was there for th
e camera.
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> My wife noticed that face, too. Sort of a Bert and Ernie look.
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> Yep, my rudder control horns are below the horizontal stab. I didn't build
the plane originally (though I've disassembled/reassembled it twice and reb
uilt the forward fuselage once).
>
> I have always thought that the Skyscout was a very, very cool airplane. Do
you have any pix of yours? What will you power it with? I've also always wo
ndered if, given that I've been told it's the same design as the Aircamper b
ut weigh less, how many Gs can it take?
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> Jeff
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> Ray Krause wrote:
>> Jeffery,
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>> Absolutely beautiful!
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>> Observations: how do you fly that plane sitting backwards in the cockpit?
Note the first couple of views right after takeoff.
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>> You have your rudder horns below the elevators? I did the same on my SkyS
cout. I know, it is not that way on the plans, but it should make the steera
ble tail wheel easier to operate.
>>
>> Thanks for the great inspiration,
>>
>> Ray Krause
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>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Aug 31, 2014, at 7:09 AM, "Jeff Boatright" wrote:
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>>> Just some floobydust for your Labor Day weekend:
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>>> http://youtu.be/ZdcKXbX8eVw
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>>> Hope you get a chance to fly or work on your project this weekend!
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>>> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol "Blitzkrieg" to fly again |
A few more from the Centilli family photo albums
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol "Blitzkrieg" to fly again |
Those photos are just TOO cool.... Wonderful that your bird has some real history....!
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol "Blitzkrieg" to fly again |
Neat photos, what a lot of history you have uncovered. Wish you the best of luck
in restoring this beauty, what a labor of love!
Congratulations,
Ray Krause
Building a SkyScout
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| Subject: | Re: More notes on CG, axle location and weight |
Interesting to think about while planning my gear set-up.
On the subject of landing gear - I'm still hoping to find out a bit more about
your trailer wheel set-up mentioned in one of your older posts regarding your
low-cost R&D project. I'm especially interested in how you made your hubs.
Any info would be appreciated...
Andy
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Really neat, Gary! Now where are the plans/explanation on how you did it? M
aybe I will just have to come over there and beat it out of you!
Nice video!
Ray Krause
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