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     1. 05:29 AM - Re: W & B, CG, and LG location question (GrantZ)
     2. 06:12 AM - Re: be careful of scammers (aviken)
     3. 10:45 AM - Re: W & B, CG, and LG location question (William Wynne)
     4. 12:05 PM - Re: be careful of scammers (Braniff1966)
     5. 12:18 PM - Re: be careful of scammers (Braniff1966)
     6. 03:19 PM - Re: W & B, CG, and LG location question (bubbleboy)
     7. 03:33 PM - museum piet (AircamperN11MS)
     8. 07:12 PM - Re: museum piet (Dennis Engelkenjohn)
     9. 08:14 PM - latex paint (Braniff1966)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: W & B, CG, and LG location question | 
      
      
      William,
      
      Great info!  Just what I needed to get started on the LG as well as giving me insight
      into getting the W & B right the first time.
      
      If I was interested in having you build a motor mount for me what is the best method
      to get you the exact dimensions of my motor mount brackets on the fuselage?
      
      Thanks for taking your time to assist me with this W & B issue.
      
      Grant Ziebell
      Savannah, TN
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: be careful of scammers | 
      
      
      I am sorry  but I have to disagree with at least part of your thoughts.
      when a smart person beats an ignorant person out of there goods, I do not call
      that smart business.   This world has always had those shrewed people who live
      off other people's sweat. It will always be that way, nothing will change it,
      but I won't put a nice name to it.
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430106#430106
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: W & B, CG, and LG location question | 
      
      
      Grant,
      
      The only number we need to know is the width of your plane from the inside face
      of the outer mount bracket to the same spot on the other side. It will be very
      close to 24" or 24.25". 
      .
      Right now, sitting on the back porch is a 24.25" model, done powder coated the
      light gray we use on most stuff. (Our powder coater is across the street from
      NAS Jacksonville, so you can always have anything done in "US Navy haze gray"
      in short order, they are always applying it.) If you need one done in a different
      width, we can get to it in a few weeks, probably before Barnwell.
      .
      Scotty....I just learned yesterday about how to ship stuff down under at reasonable
      rates. I was speaking with Dan Weseman, and they have sold 6 Panther kits
      into NZ and Australia since Oshkosh and he has found a freight company in California
      that sells space in Containers that leave nearly every day and make the
      trip in 12 days. I good resource for big items like mounts and core engines.
      -ww.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: be careful of scammers | 
      
      
      ididnt post the note in order to get an assestment of the principals that i spoke
      about... i will admit that the dunning kruger effect applies to most messages
      posted here including that one..
      jim
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: be careful of scammers | 
      
      
      i know a lawyer here that got the same letter except it was for advanced legal
      payments..450,000... the wolf is always waiting to eat sheepal.. i am a p t barnum
      fan...i wish that i could find a nice fat little sheepal to scam for an engine
      for my heath parasol.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: W & B, CG, and LG location question | 
      
      
      William you were reading my mind! After working out the time zone difference I
      called Mark yesterday as he got my heads off Roy at Oshkosh. Roy is building the
      short block and Mark the heads so I am thinking how it would be best to get
      it all here. I need to talk to you about this. I measured my firewall yesterday
      and the the distance you quoted above is 26 5/16 inches from memory. I have
      widened the fuselage by approx 2 inches. I have flown a Piet here that was a
      standard size and although I am 6'1" and about 88kg, the extra couple of inches
      makes all the difference. Things are becoming very real after nearly 5 years
      of building.
      
      Scotty
      
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      Tamworth, Australia
      Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
      
      www.scottyspietenpol.com
      
      Fuslage now on its undercarriage! About to start wing spars...Corvair engine at
      Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.
      
      
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      Hi all, 
      I just ran across this Piet at Creve Coeur airport in St Louis. The data plate
      says a guy named Doug Bryant built it in Wichita Kanas. I hadn't seen this one
      before. Meet to see.
      
      --------
      Scott Liefeld
      Flying N11MS since March 1972
      Steel Tube
      C-85-12
      Wire Wheels
      Brodhead in 1996
      
      
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      Doug Bryant was or is a friend of Chuck Gantzer also of Wichita. Chuck flew 
      his red and silver Piet to Brodhead several times, the last being about 4 or 
      5 yrs ago. It was the year Brodhead hit 100 degrees and there was a strong 
      wind from the east. Later in the week there was a big rainstorm at Oshkosh. 
      They both built ford powered Piets about 15 yrs ago or so. Don't know about 
      Doug, but Chuck felt his Ford was not reliable and replaced it with a 
      Continental 65 (I think) Anyway, since he had the short wheelbase Piet, he 
      had to build the motor mount way forward to get the weight and balance 
      right.
      dennis
      
      -----Original Message----- 
      From: AircamperN11MS
      Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 5:32 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: museum piet
      
      <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
      
      Hi all,
      I just ran across this Piet at Creve Coeur airport in St Louis. The data 
      plate says a guy named Doug Bryant built it in Wichita Kanas. I hadn't seen 
      this one before. Meet to see.
      
      --------
      Scott Liefeld
      Flying N11MS since March 1972
      Steel Tube
      C-85-12
      Wire Wheels
      Brodhead in 1996
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430138#430138
      
      
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      here is what i think i might know. my heath parasol is covered with stits.. it
      was  painted through the silver. i primed over the silver with sherwin williams
      primer three coats sanded between coats. primer rolled on then smoothed with
      a large very fine damp sponge. that left fine marks that were sanded. i then
      rolled on three coats of behr exterior latex in cream..sanding between coats.
      the last coat was sprayed on with a lowes latex paint gun 40 psi thinned flotrol
      as recommended and 25%. widnshield fluid.  i think the best way to judge the
      finished product is to look at the paint job then look at your checking account
      balance and accept the fact that you have 2,300 more than you would have if
      you used a certified process. i 
      wouldnt use latex on a 100,000 plane but on a 10,000 it is a very good option for
      me. thats the jew in me.   i wanted the 1927 dope look.
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430152#430152
      
      
 
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