---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 09/06/14: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:29 AM - Re: W & B, CG, and LG location question (GrantZ) 2. 06:12 AM - Re: be careful of scammers (aviken) 3. 10:45 AM - Re: W & B, CG, and LG location question (William Wynne) 4. 12:05 PM - Re: be careful of scammers (Braniff1966) 5. 12:18 PM - Re: be careful of scammers (Braniff1966) 6. 03:19 PM - Re: W & B, CG, and LG location question (bubbleboy) 7. 03:33 PM - museum piet (AircamperN11MS) 8. 07:12 PM - Re: museum piet (Dennis Engelkenjohn) 9. 08:14 PM - latex paint (Braniff1966) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:29:55 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: W & B, CG, and LG location question From: "GrantZ" William, Great info! Just what I needed to get started on the LG as well as giving me insight into getting the W & B right the first time. If I was interested in having you build a motor mount for me what is the best method to get you the exact dimensions of my motor mount brackets on the fuselage? Thanks for taking your time to assist me with this W & B issue. Grant Ziebell Savannah, TN Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430105#430105 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:08 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: be careful of scammers From: "aviken" I am sorry but I have to disagree with at least part of your thoughts. when a smart person beats an ignorant person out of there goods, I do not call that smart business. This world has always had those shrewed people who live off other people's sweat. It will always be that way, nothing will change it, but I won't put a nice name to it. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430106#430106 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:45:18 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: W & B, CG, and LG location question From: "William Wynne" Grant, The only number we need to know is the width of your plane from the inside face of the outer mount bracket to the same spot on the other side. It will be very close to 24" or 24.25". .. Right now, sitting on the back porch is a 24.25" model, done powder coated the light gray we use on most stuff. (Our powder coater is across the street from NAS Jacksonville, so you can always have anything done in "US Navy haze gray" in short order, they are always applying it.) If you need one done in a different width, we can get to it in a few weeks, probably before Barnwell. .. Scotty....I just learned yesterday about how to ship stuff down under at reasonable rates. I was speaking with Dan Weseman, and they have sold 6 Panther kits into NZ and Australia since Oshkosh and he has found a freight company in California that sells space in Containers that leave nearly every day and make the trip in 12 days. I good resource for big items like mounts and core engines. -ww. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430121#430121 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:05:04 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: be careful of scammers From: "Braniff1966" ididnt post the note in order to get an assestment of the principals that i spoke about... i will admit that the dunning kruger effect applies to most messages posted here including that one.. jim Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430125#430125 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:18:21 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: be careful of scammers From: "Braniff1966" i know a lawyer here that got the same letter except it was for advanced legal payments..450,000... the wolf is always waiting to eat sheepal.. i am a p t barnum fan...i wish that i could find a nice fat little sheepal to scam for an engine for my heath parasol. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430128#430128 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:19:11 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: W & B, CG, and LG location question From: "bubbleboy" William you were reading my mind! After working out the time zone difference I called Mark yesterday as he got my heads off Roy at Oshkosh. Roy is building the short block and Mark the heads so I am thinking how it would be best to get it all here. I need to talk to you about this. I measured my firewall yesterday and the the distance you quoted above is 26 5/16 inches from memory. I have widened the fuselage by approx 2 inches. I have flown a Piet here that was a standard size and although I am 6'1" and about 88kg, the extra couple of inches makes all the difference. Things are becoming very real after nearly 5 years of building. Scotty -------- Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Fuslage now on its undercarriage! About to start wing spars...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430137#430137 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:33:07 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: museum piet From: "AircamperN11MS" Hi all, I just ran across this Piet at Creve Coeur airport in St Louis. The data plate says a guy named Doug Bryant built it in Wichita Kanas. I hadn't seen this one before. Meet to see. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430138#430138 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_20140906_152705_113.jpg ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:38 PM PST US From: "Dennis Engelkenjohn" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: museum piet Doug Bryant was or is a friend of Chuck Gantzer also of Wichita. Chuck flew his red and silver Piet to Brodhead several times, the last being about 4 or 5 yrs ago. It was the year Brodhead hit 100 degrees and there was a strong wind from the east. Later in the week there was a big rainstorm at Oshkosh. They both built ford powered Piets about 15 yrs ago or so. Don't know about Doug, but Chuck felt his Ford was not reliable and replaced it with a Continental 65 (I think) Anyway, since he had the short wheelbase Piet, he had to build the motor mount way forward to get the weight and balance right. dennis -----Original Message----- From: AircamperN11MS Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 5:32 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: museum piet Hi all, I just ran across this Piet at Creve Coeur airport in St Louis. The data plate says a guy named Doug Bryant built it in Wichita Kanas. I hadn't seen this one before. Meet to see. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430138#430138 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_20140906_152705_113.jpg ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:14:00 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: latex paint From: "Braniff1966" here is what i think i might know. my heath parasol is covered with stits.. it was painted through the silver. i primed over the silver with sherwin williams primer three coats sanded between coats. primer rolled on then smoothed with a large very fine damp sponge. that left fine marks that were sanded. i then rolled on three coats of behr exterior latex in cream..sanding between coats. the last coat was sprayed on with a lowes latex paint gun 40 psi thinned flotrol as recommended and 25%. widnshield fluid. i think the best way to judge the finished product is to look at the paint job then look at your checking account balance and accept the fact that you have 2,300 more than you would have if you used a certified process. i wouldnt use latex on a 100,000 plane but on a 10,000 it is a very good option for me. thats the jew in me. i wanted the 1927 dope look. 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