Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Tue 09/16/14


Total Messages Posted: 12



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:17 AM - Re: I left (Jack)
     2. 05:13 AM - Re: a few motivational Piet pictures  (Amsafetyc)
     3. 05:49 AM - Re: I left (Michael Perez)
     4. 06:11 AM - Mario (Douwe Blumberg)
     5. 08:24 AM - Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question (Bill Church)
     6. 08:47 AM - Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question (Pocono John)
     7. 09:29 AM - Re: I left (Ray Krause)
     8. 01:46 PM - Skip G. ? (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
     9. 02:26 PM - Re: Skip G. ? (woodflier)
    10. 02:34 PM - Thank you! Skip Gaad info (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
    11. 02:52 PM - Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question (Pocono John)
    12. 08:43 PM - Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question (tkreiner)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:17:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: I left
    From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
    Mario, That is sad news indeed, it must be very painful. I won't pry into your reasoning and will respect your decision. Your workmanship was outstanding, I enjoyed the journey with you. I wish the best for you and your family. Maybe some day you will have a Pietenpol in your life again. Take care, Jack Sent from my iPad Jack Textor > On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:51 PM, "giacummo" <mario.giacummo@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello, > > I am writing to thank you all for all the help you give me through the forum and/or in person during this 4 years of "job" with this beautiful airplane. > i am at a cross road where I could not leave, I try it during the lasts 9 months, but I could not find a solution, so I sold the project, and I expect to see it fly soon. > > i am going to seek others flaying machines to take my feets out of the earth for a while.. no so beatufull as a Pietenpol, other thing. > > I am going to stay here to look what you talk about every now and then, you are a great group of persons, I have learned and enjoyed a lot with you, thank you very much. > > Jack, you have to do something with the place of the proyect, its going to be in "Mercedes, Soriano, Uruguay", the new owner is Antonio Racioppi; may be someone of the group knows him. > > Thanks a lot again and best Regards > > do not archive > > -------- > Mario Giacummo > Photos here: http://goo.gl/wh7M4 > Little Blog : http://vgmk1.blogspot.com > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430589#430589 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:13:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: a few motivational Piet pictures
    From: Amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com>
    Nice job Mike Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 20, 2014, at 11:29 AM, "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners , LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote: > > <image001.jpg> <image002.jpg> > Earl Brown with wife Katrina (from PA) try out Piet for size. > > <image003.jpg> <image004.jpg> > > Checkout that very cool use of Larry William=99s cen ter section for rags/supplies! (Douwe to right of Larry) > > <image005.jpg> <image006.jpg> > > <image007.jpg> <image008.jpg> > > Kevin=99s wife Shelley prepares Curt Merdan=99s daughter fo r a ride at Brodhead. Ma tt Paxton from VA gives a ride to John Recine=99s Cousin Faith at Brod head. > > <image009.jpg> <image010.jpg> > > Gentleman Jack Phillips and Greg Cardinal at Brodhead. Kevin Pu rtee, Ryan Mueller, Gary Boothe at Brodhead a few years ago. > > <image011.jpg> <image012.jpg> > > Dan Helsper at Brodhead Jack and Susan Textor with Kevin Purtee , center. > > > >


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    Time: 05:49:29 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: I left
    Mario, I fully understand you position and all things considered, I am sure you have made the right choice. (as hard as it may be) Who ever received your plane really did get a work of art. Stay in touch with the list...perhaps an opportunity to start a new will come your way. If God is your co-pilot, switch seats Mike Perez Karetaker Aero Construction complete! (8/2014)


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    Time: 06:11:32 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Mario
    Mario, we've certainly enjoyed walking with you and wish you all the best. Please DO keep in touch and encourage the new builder to join this group. I personally enjoy very much hearing about projects around the world. Douwe


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    Time: 08:24:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question
    From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
    John, There must be something wrong with either your full-size rib printout or the way you're lofting the airfoil. The only real difference between the full size rib printout and the rib on drawing No 5 is that the full size printout has the vertical sticks added beside the spars. The airfoil has not been "improved". Some people find that the full size printout is stretched or shrunk a bit, due to the printing process and changes in humidity - but that is typically in the order of 1/8" or 1/4" on the overall length. In my memory, I do not recall reading about anyone ever experiencing the issues you're having. I suspect that your issues have to do with the way you're you're lofting (drawing) the airfoil. There should be no differences of 1/2". There is only one Pietenpol airfoil. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430615#430615


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    Time: 08:47:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question
    From: "Pocono John" <tinmotion@yahoo.com>
    I'm going to make a video showing everything, and maybe someone will be able to identify the problem. Standby for a link to the video. Thank you. -------- John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430619#430619


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    Time: 09:29:21 AM PST US
    From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: I left
    Mario, Sorry to hear that you had to give up on your project, sad for everyone...except the one who will carry it on. I often contemplate the day when I will have to give it up.. At 72, it could happen anytime. Happy flights, Ray Krause Sent from my iPad > On Sep 15, 2014, at 6:51 PM, "giacummo" <mario.giacummo@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello, > > I am writing to thank you all for all the help you give me through the forum and/or in person during this 4 years of "job" with this beautiful airplane. > i am at a cross road where I could not leave, I try it during the lasts 9 months, but I could not find a solution, so I sold the project, and I expect to see it fly soon. > > i am going to seek others flaying machines to take my feets out of the earth for a while.. no so beatufull as a Pietenpol, other thing. > > I am going to stay here to look what you talk about every now and then, you are a great group of persons, I have learned and enjoyed a lot with you, thank you very much. > > Jack, you have to do something with the place of the proyect, its going to be in "Mercedes, Soriano, Uruguay", the new owner is Antonio Racioppi; may be someone of the group knows him. > > Thanks a lot again and best Regards > > do not archive > > -------- > Mario Giacummo > Photos here: http://goo.gl/wh7M4 > Little Blog : http://vgmk1.blogspot.com > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430589#430589 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:46:00 PM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: Skip G. ?
    Infidels, countrymen, and Pietenpol Enthusiasts! I'm trying to connect a potential Piet builder in the West Virginia area wi th Skip & Cinda Gaad but haven't seen Skip on the list lately. I know they live in/near Elizabeth, WV and built their home on an airstrip but don't have any contact info on him. If anyone has an address/ phone numbers please e-mail me directly at Michael.D.Cuy@nasa.g ov<mailto:Michael.D.Cuy@nasa.gov> Thank YOU!!! Mike C.


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    Time: 02:26:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Skip G. ?
    From: woodflier <woodflier@aol.com>
    =0AMike, where is this person in West VA? I'm less than an hour's drive from West By God Virginny. Maybe I'm closer than Skip is. Everything is a 2 hour drive in West Virgini a because of the mountains. =0A=0A=0AMatt Paxton=0A=0A=0A-----Origin al Message-----=0AFrom: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC] (GRC-LME0)[Vantage=0A Partners, LLC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>=0A 2014 4:47 pm=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Skip G. ?=0A=0A=0A=0A Infidels, countrymen, and Pietenpol Enthusiasts!=0A =0AI=99m t rying to connect a potential Piet builder in the West Virgin ia area with Skip & Cinda Gaad but haven=99t seen Skip on the list=0Alately. =0A =0AI know they live in/near Eliza beth, WV and built their home on an airstrip but don=99 t have any contact info on him. If anyone has=0Aan address/ phone numbers please e-mail me directly atMichael.D.Cuy@n =========================== =========================== =========================== ===========================0A =========================== =========================== =========================== ===============0A=0A=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 02:34:56 PM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: Thank you! Skip Gaad info
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    Time: 02:52:14 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question
    From: "Pocono John" <tinmotion@yahoo.com>
    Here's a video where I show the page 5 drawing, the rib profile based on page 5 and the full size overlay. I'm seeing a difference between both ribs, and I'd like to resolve it so I can build a correct rib. So, shall I build my ribs based on page 5 dimensions, or use the full size profile? Thank you. http://youtu.be/KZSTQas6iEA -------- John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430639#430639


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    Time: 08:43:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question
    From: "tkreiner" <tkreiner@gmail.com>
    John, Just as an observation... without knowing whether you ever took a drafting class, or had any formal training in layout or lofting... it would appear that your lines themselves, are way too thick. Thin lines are much better as the thickness of the line never distorts or influences the design you're transferring to paper - or, in this case, plywood. Another item I noticed is that your dimensions are taken - and I'm not dissing you here, just giving you another observation - from the end of the scale. If you want to produce accurate dimensions, place the 1.0 inch line at the starting point or datum, if you will, and hold the scale firmly in place while you place - or measure - the location of the tick marks. The above are techniques which aren't being taught anymore in the era of CAD programs, but when you're actually laying out a series of points to produce an airfoil, or any other critical design, the old school techniques can be the difference you're experiencing. After 40+ years of Mechanical Design Engineering & drafting, just my $0.02. -------- Tom Kreiner Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430654#430654




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