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1. 02:17 AM - Re: I left (Jack)
2. 05:13 AM - Re: a few motivational Piet pictures (Amsafetyc)
3. 05:49 AM - Re: I left (Michael Perez)
4. 06:11 AM - Mario (Douwe Blumberg)
5. 08:24 AM - Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question (Bill Church)
6. 08:47 AM - Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question (Pocono John)
7. 09:29 AM - Re: I left (Ray Krause)
8. 01:46 PM - Skip G. ? (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
9. 02:26 PM - Re: Skip G. ? (woodflier)
10. 02:34 PM - Thank you! Skip Gaad info (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
11. 02:52 PM - Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question (Pocono John)
12. 08:43 PM - Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question (tkreiner)
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Mario,
That is sad news indeed, it must be very painful. I won't pry into your reasoning
and will respect your decision. Your workmanship was outstanding, I enjoyed
the journey with you. I wish the best for you and your family. Maybe some
day you will have a Pietenpol in your life again.
Take care,
Jack
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
> On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:51 PM, "giacummo" <mario.giacummo@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hello,
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> I am writing to thank you all for all the help you give me through the forum
and/or in person during this 4 years of "job" with this beautiful airplane.
> i am at a cross road where I could not leave, I try it during the lasts 9 months,
but I could not find a solution, so I sold the project, and I expect to see
it fly soon.
>
> i am going to seek others flaying machines to take my feets out of the earth
for a while.. no so beatufull as a Pietenpol, other thing.
>
> I am going to stay here to look what you talk about every now and then, you are
a great group of persons, I have learned and enjoyed a lot with you, thank
you very much.
>
> Jack, you have to do something with the place of the proyect, its going to be
in "Mercedes, Soriano, Uruguay", the new owner is Antonio Racioppi; may be someone
of the group knows him.
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> Thanks a lot again and best Regards
>
> do not archive
>
> --------
> Mario Giacummo
> Photos here: http://goo.gl/wh7M4
> Little Blog : http://vgmk1.blogspot.com
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Subject: | Re: a few motivational Piet pictures |
Nice job Mike
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 20, 2014, at 11:29 AM, "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners
, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
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> <image001.jpg> <image002.jpg>
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Earl Brown with wife Katrina (from PA) try out Piet for size.
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> <image003.jpg> <image004.jpg>
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Checkout that very cool use of Larry William=99s cen
ter section for rags/supplies! (Douwe to right of Larry)
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> <image005.jpg> <image006.jpg>
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> <image007.jpg> <image008.jpg>
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> Kevin=99s wife Shelley prepares Curt Merdan=99s daughter fo
r a ride at Brodhead. Ma
tt Paxton from VA gives a ride to John Recine=99s Cousin Faith at Brod
head.
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> <image009.jpg> <image010.jpg>
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> Gentleman Jack Phillips and Greg Cardinal at Brodhead.
Kevin Pu
rtee, Ryan Mueller, Gary Boothe at Brodhead a few years ago.
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> <image011.jpg> <image012.jpg>
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> Dan Helsper at Brodhead
Jack and Susan Textor with Kevin Purtee
, center.
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Mario, I fully understand you position and all things considered, I am sure you
have made the right choice. (as hard as it may be) Who ever received your plane
really did get a work of art. Stay in touch with the list...perhaps an opportunity
to start a new will come your way.
If God is your co-pilot, switch seats
Mike Perez
Karetaker Aero
Construction complete! (8/2014)
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Mario, we've certainly enjoyed walking with you and wish you all the best.
Please DO keep in touch and encourage the new builder to join this group. I
personally enjoy very much hearing about projects around the world.
Douwe
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Subject: | Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question |
John,
There must be something wrong with either your full-size rib printout or the way
you're lofting the airfoil.
The only real difference between the full size rib printout and the rib on drawing
No 5 is that the full size printout has the vertical sticks added beside the
spars. The airfoil has not been "improved". Some people find that the full
size printout is stretched or shrunk a bit, due to the printing process and changes
in humidity - but that is typically in the order of 1/8" or 1/4" on the
overall length. In my memory, I do not recall reading about anyone ever experiencing
the issues you're having. I suspect that your issues have to do with
the way you're you're lofting (drawing) the airfoil. There should be no differences
of 1/2". There is only one Pietenpol airfoil.
Bill C.
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Subject: | Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question |
I'm going to make a video showing everything, and maybe someone will be able to
identify the problem. Standby for a link to the video. Thank you.
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John
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Mario,
Sorry to hear that you had to give up on your project, sad for everyone...except
the one who will carry it on. I often contemplate the day when I will have
to give it up.. At 72, it could happen anytime.
Happy flights,
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
> On Sep 15, 2014, at 6:51 PM, "giacummo" <mario.giacummo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I am writing to thank you all for all the help you give me through the forum
and/or in person during this 4 years of "job" with this beautiful airplane.
> i am at a cross road where I could not leave, I try it during the lasts 9 months,
but I could not find a solution, so I sold the project, and I expect to see
it fly soon.
>
> i am going to seek others flaying machines to take my feets out of the earth
for a while.. no so beatufull as a Pietenpol, other thing.
>
> I am going to stay here to look what you talk about every now and then, you are
a great group of persons, I have learned and enjoyed a lot with you, thank
you very much.
>
> Jack, you have to do something with the place of the proyect, its going to be
in "Mercedes, Soriano, Uruguay", the new owner is Antonio Racioppi; may be someone
of the group knows him.
>
> Thanks a lot again and best Regards
>
> do not archive
>
> --------
> Mario Giacummo
> Photos here: http://goo.gl/wh7M4
> Little Blog : http://vgmk1.blogspot.com
>
>
>
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> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430589#430589
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Infidels, countrymen, and Pietenpol Enthusiasts!
I'm trying to connect a potential Piet builder in the West Virginia area wi
th Skip & Cinda Gaad but haven't seen Skip on the list
lately.
I know they live in/near Elizabeth, WV and built their home on an airstrip
but don't have any contact info on him. If anyone has
an address/ phone numbers please e-mail me directly at Michael.D.Cuy@nasa.g
ov<mailto:Michael.D.Cuy@nasa.gov>
Thank YOU!!!
Mike C.
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=0AMike, where is this person in West VA? I'm less than an
hour's drive from West By God Virginny. Maybe I'm closer
than Skip is. Everything is a 2 hour drive in West Virgini
a because of the mountains. =0A=0A=0AMatt Paxton=0A=0A=0A-----Origin
al Message-----=0AFrom: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners,
LLC] (GRC-LME0)[Vantage=0A Partners, LLC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>=0A
2014 4:47 pm=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Skip G. ?=0A=0A=0A=0A
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rying to connect a potential Piet builder in the West Virgin
ia area with Skip & Cinda Gaad but haven=99t seen Skip
on the list=0Alately. =0A =0AI know they live in/near Eliza
beth, WV and built their home on an airstrip but don=99
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address/ phone numbers please e-mail me directly atMichael.D.Cuy@n
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Subject: | Thank you! Skip Gaad info |
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Subject: | Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question |
Here's a video where I show the page 5 drawing, the rib profile based on page 5
and the full size overlay. I'm seeing a difference between both ribs, and I'd
like to resolve it so I can build a correct rib. So, shall I build my ribs based
on page 5 dimensions, or use the full size profile? Thank you.
http://youtu.be/KZSTQas6iEA
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John
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Subject: | Re: wings and cabanes-----one simple question |
John,
Just as an observation... without knowing whether you ever took a drafting class,
or had any formal training in layout or lofting... it would appear that your
lines themselves, are way too thick. Thin lines are much better as the thickness
of the line never distorts or influences the design you're transferring
to paper - or, in this case, plywood.
Another item I noticed is that your dimensions are taken - and I'm not dissing
you here, just giving you another observation - from the end of the scale. If
you want to produce accurate dimensions, place the 1.0 inch line at the starting
point or datum, if you will, and hold the scale firmly in place while you
place - or measure - the location of the tick marks.
The above are techniques which aren't being taught anymore in the era of CAD programs,
but when you're actually laying out a series of points to produce an airfoil,
or any other critical design, the old school techniques can be the difference
you're experiencing.
After 40+ years of Mechanical Design Engineering & drafting, just my $0.02.
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Tom Kreiner
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