Today's Message Index:
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1. 09:41 AM - Progress in Pryor (Jim Markle)
2. 09:51 AM - Re: Progress in Pryor (Boatright, Jeffrey)
3. 09:57 AM - Covering and Painting (Jim Boyer)
4. 10:06 AM - Re: Progress in Pryor (Scott Knowlton)
5. 10:19 AM - Re: Progress in Pryor (Jim Markle)
6. 10:32 AM - Re: Progress in Pryor (Scott Knowlton)
7. 10:36 AM - Re: Progress in Pryor (Ken Bickers)
8. 10:41 AM - Re: Progress in Pryor (Boatright, Jeffrey)
9. 10:42 AM - Re: Progress in Pryor (Dan Yocum)
10. 10:43 AM - Re: Progress in Pryor (Gary Boothe)
11. 11:11 AM - Re: Progress in Pryor (dfwplt)
12. 01:12 PM - Re: Re: tossing and turning (Steven Dortch)
13. 05:14 PM - Re: Progress in Pryor (Ray Krause)
14. 05:26 PM - Re: Progress in Pryor (dfwplt)
15. 06:59 PM - Re: lift struts 2 (dgaldrich)
16. 10:32 PM - Re: Covering and Painting (jim hyde)
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| Subject: | Progress in Pryor |
Wanted to share some recent progress on "The People's Piet". Covering and painting
is FUN!!!
One picture of before paint and one of after paint....right side up and bottom
with access panel uncovered facing the camera. One is of the blue tape effort
at finding the curve I wanted. Replaced with holding a thin strip of 1/16" ply
around that same general curve and marking it with a pencil. Worked on THAT
layout for the last 10+ years and like it a lot.
Should have the fuse painted and back on the gear by the end of the month (October)
then on to the wings! A bit of varnish here and there and they'll be ready
for covering.
This is an incredibly fun part of the process!
Jim in Pryor
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| Subject: | Progress in Pryor |
Very cool, Jim! Congratulations!!
Brodhead '15 or Bust!
________________________________________
Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD
Associate Professor of Ophthalmology
Emory University School of Medicine
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]
on behalf of Jim Markle [jim_markle@mindspring.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 12:40 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Progress in Pryor
Wanted to share some recent progress on "The People's Piet". Covering and painting
is FUN!!!
One picture of before paint and one of after paint....right side up and bottom
with access panel uncovered facing the camera. One is of the blue tape effort
at finding the curve I wanted. Replaced with holding a thin strip of 1/16" ply
around that same general curve and marking it with a pencil. Worked on THAT
layout for the last 10+ years and like it a lot.
Should have the fuse painted and back on the gear by the end of the month (October)
then on to the wings! A bit of varnish here and there and they'll be ready
for covering.
This is an incredibly fun part of the process!
Jim in Pryor
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| Subject: | Covering and Painting |
Hi Jim,
Your progress on painting is looking good. Its nice to see your Piet getting so
close.
Cheers,
Jim B.
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| Subject: | Re: Progress in Pryor |
Very nice Jim! Is that latex? Nice curve!!!!
Scott K.
Burlington ON
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 9, 2014, at 12:51 PM, "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> Wanted to share some recent progress on "The People's Piet". Covering and painting
is FUN!!!
>
> One picture of before paint and one of after paint....right side up and bottom
with access panel uncovered facing the camera. One is of the blue tape effort
at finding the curve I wanted. Replaced with holding a thin strip of 1/16"
ply around that same general curve and marking it with a pencil. Worked on THAT
layout for the last 10+ years and like it a lot.
>
> Should have the fuse painted and back on the gear by the end of the month (October)
then on to the wings! A bit of varnish here and there and they'll be ready
for covering.
>
> This is an incredibly fun part of the process!
>
> Jim in Pryor
>
> <fuse on side.jpg>
> <photol.JPG>
> <photolll.JPG>
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| Subject: | Re: Progress in Pryor |
Thank you Scott. It is latex...Sherwin Williams best!
-----Original Message-----
>From: Scott Knowlton <flyingscott_k@hotmail.com>
>Sent: Oct 9, 2014 12:05 PM
>To: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>Cc: Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress in Pryor
>
>Very nice Jim! Is that latex? Nice curve!!!!
>
>Scott K.
>Burlington ON
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 9, 2014, at 12:51 PM, "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> Wanted to share some recent progress on "The People's Piet". Covering and painting
is FUN!!!
>>
>> One picture of before paint and one of after paint....right side up and bottom
with access panel uncovered facing the camera. One is of the blue tape effort
at finding the curve I wanted. Replaced with holding a thin strip of 1/16"
ply around that same general curve and marking it with a pencil. Worked on
THAT layout for the last 10+ years and like it a lot.
>>
>> Should have the fuse painted and back on the gear by the end of the month (October)
then on to the wings! A bit of varnish here and there and they'll be
ready for covering.
>>
>> This is an incredibly fun part of the process!
>>
>> Jim in Pryor
>>
>> <fuse on side.jpg>
>> <photol.JPG>
>> <photolll.JPG>
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| Subject: | Re: Progress in Pryor |
Great looking finish. Did you spray?
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 9, 2014, at 1:21 PM, "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thank you Scott. It is latex...Sherwin Williams best!
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Knowlton <flyingscott_k@hotmail.com>
>> Sent: Oct 9, 2014 12:05 PM
>> To: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>> Cc: Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress in Pryor
>>
>> Very nice Jim! Is that latex? Nice curve!!!!
>>
>> Scott K.
>> Burlington ON
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 9, 2014, at 12:51 PM, "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Wanted to share some recent progress on "The People's Piet". Covering and
painting is FUN!!!
>>>
>>> One picture of before paint and one of after paint....right side up and bottom
with access panel uncovered facing the camera. One is of the blue tape effort
at finding the curve I wanted. Replaced with holding a thin strip of 1/16"
ply around that same general curve and marking it with a pencil. Worked on
THAT layout for the last 10+ years and like it a lot.
>>>
>>> Should have the fuse painted and back on the gear by the end of the month (October)
then on to the wings! A bit of varnish here and there and they'll be
ready for covering.
>>>
>>> This is an incredibly fun part of the process!
>>>
>>> Jim in Pryor
>>>
>>> <fuse on side.jpg>
>>> <photol.JPG>
>>> <photolll.JPG>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Progress in Pryor |
Okay, Jim, now you've started an argument. Airplanes with Sherwin Williams
on them fall out of the sky. The only paint that should ever go on an
airplane comes from Benjamin Moore.
:)
Seriously, looks great.
Cheers, Ken
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
wrote:
> jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>
> Thank you Scott. It is latex...Sherwin Williams best!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Scott Knowlton <flyingscott_k@hotmail.com>
> >Sent: Oct 9, 2014 12:05 PM
> >To: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
> >Cc: Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress in Pryor
> >
> >Very nice Jim! Is that latex? Nice curve!!!!
> >
> >Scott K.
> >Burlington ON
> >
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Oct 9, 2014, at 12:51 PM, "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Wanted to share some recent progress on "The People's Piet". Covering
> and painting is FUN!!!
> >>
> >> One picture of before paint and one of after paint....right side up and
> bottom with access panel uncovered facing the camera. One is of the blue
> tape effort at finding the curve I wanted. Replaced with holding a thin
> strip of 1/16" ply around that same general curve and marking it with a
> pencil. Worked on THAT layout for the last 10+ years and like it a lot.
> >>
> >> Should have the fuse painted and back on the gear by the end of the
> month (October) then on to the wings! A bit of varnish here and there and
> they'll be ready for covering.
> >>
> >> This is an incredibly fun part of the process!
> >>
> >> Jim in Pryor
> >>
> >> <fuse on side.jpg>
> >> <photol.JPG>
> >> <photolll.JPG>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Progress in Pryor |
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| Subject: | Re: Progress in Pryor |
+1 gazillion!
Very nice, Jim!
On 10/09/2014 11:40 AM, Jim Markle wrote:
> Wanted to share some recent progress on "The People's Piet". Covering and painting
is FUN!!!
>
> One picture of before paint and one of after paint....right side up and bottom
with access panel uncovered facing the camera. One is of the blue tape effort
at finding the curve I wanted. Replaced with holding a thin strip of 1/16"
ply around that same general curve and marking it with a pencil. Worked on THAT
layout for the last 10+ years and like it a lot.
>
> Should have the fuse painted and back on the gear by the end of the month (October)
then on to the wings! A bit of varnish here and there and they'll be ready
for covering.
>
> This is an incredibly fun part of the process!
>
> Jim in Pryor
>
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| Subject: | Re: Progress in Pryor |
...or Kelly Moore.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 9, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Scott Knowlton <flyingscott_k@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Great looking finish. Did you spray?
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 9, 2014, at 1:21 PM, "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thank you Scott. It is latex...Sherwin Williams best!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Scott Knowlton <flyingscott_k@hotmail.com>
>>> Sent: Oct 9, 2014 12:05 PM
>>> To: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>>> Cc: Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress in Pryor
>>>
>>> Very nice Jim! Is that latex? Nice curve!!!!
>>>
>>> Scott K.
>>> Burlington ON
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Oct 9, 2014, at 12:51 PM, "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Wanted to share some recent progress on "The People's Piet". Covering and
painting is FUN!!!
>>>>
>>>> One picture of before paint and one of after paint....right side up and bottom
with access panel uncovered facing the camera. One is of the blue tape effort
at finding the curve I wanted. Replaced with holding a thin strip of 1/16"
ply around that same general curve and marking it with a pencil. Worked on
THAT layout for the last 10+ years and like it a lot.
>>>>
>>>> Should have the fuse painted and back on the gear by the end of the month
(October) then on to the wings! A bit of varnish here and there and they'll be
ready for covering.
>>>>
>>>> This is an incredibly fun part of the process!
>>>>
>>>> Jim in Pryor
>>>>
>>>> <fuse on side.jpg>
>>>> <photol.JPG>
>>>> <photolll.JPG>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Progress in Pryor |
Thanks everyone for the compliments!
I'm using a foam brush and doing multiple cross coats. Around the curve I used
a bristle angled brush but the rest is foam. Painting on 95+ degree days was
challenging but seems to be working out ok now that the temp has dropped.
Maybe you can tell from the attached that it leaves a bit of a brush line but I
like the look.
I do have an HVLP setup and would prefer using it but the time involved is an issue.
With a foam brush I can go to the shop, add a cross coat and throw the
brush away. No real clean up if I want. I've found that I can make a LOT of
progress if it's easy to get to. Of course, I've gone out for a "quick" 15 minutes
of painting and came inside to a dark house at midnight. But what fun!
Wait, what? If I spray it won't "fall out of the sky"????
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431698#431698
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/photoline_494.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/photoline_193.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: tossing and turning |
You can never have too many airplanes!
Steve D.
Piet in progress, Vtail Bonanza waiting for an annual after the Piet flies.
Note: my wife does not agree.
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:47 PM, AircamperN11MS <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
wrote:
> Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
>
> Great post Mike,
>
> I haven't slept well this week too. My problem is only slightly
> different. I have a friend who has offered me his 4 place 170 MPH home
> built airplane for a very reasonable price. Do I want it? YES. Do I need
> it? No. Hmm, That would mean two airplanes. One slow and one to go places
> in. Guess I'll try to sleep on it. Did I say it was a great buy? Oh yes, I
> did. Now what do I do?
>
> I can't sleep either,
>
> --------
> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431667#431667
>
>
--
Blue Skies,
Steve D
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| Subject: | Re: Progress in Pryor |
Jim,
That looks great! I should start covering in November, right after finishing the
rigging. I am looking forward to it! Thanks for encouragement!
Will you be Flying this Spring/Summer?
Thanks,
Ray Krause
Building SkyScout
Sent from my iPad
> On Oct 9, 2014, at 9:40 AM, Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> Wanted to share some recent progress on "The People's Piet". Covering and painting
is FUN!!!
>
> One picture of before paint and one of after paint....right side up and bottom
with access panel uncovered facing the camera. One is of the blue tape effort
at finding the curve I wanted. Replaced with holding a thin strip of 1/16"
ply around that same general curve and marking it with a pencil. Worked on THAT
layout for the last 10+ years and like it a lot.
>
> Should have the fuse painted and back on the gear by the end of the month (October)
then on to the wings! A bit of varnish here and there and they'll be ready
for covering.
>
> This is an incredibly fun part of the process!
>
> Jim in Pryor
>
> <fuse on side.jpg>
> <photol.JPG>
> <photolll.JPG>
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| Subject: | Re: Progress in Pryor |
Ray, flying in 2015 is the plan! The way things are going right now it's entirely
doable.
Jim
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431718#431718
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| Subject: | Re: lift struts 2 |
Clif
I think it was Jack Phillips that said you divide by the cosine of the angle between
the struts and the spar to get the tensile load on the strut. Example:
30 degree angle (cos = .5); lift required = 5,000 lbs. Total tensile load 5,000/.5
= 10,000 lbs.
To the original question, if you assume the rear struts and the cabanes take NONE
of the load, that leaves about 4,000 lbs for each of the load bearing struts.
With an angle of 30 degrees between the struts and spar, the tensile load
is 8,000 +/-. In theory, the struts should be good for 9 G's in tension.
Now compression is another subject...
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431720#431720
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| Subject: | Re: Covering and Painting |
thank you u should see the heath parasol
On Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:57 AM, Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi Jim,
Your progress on painting is looking good. Its nice to see your Piet getting so
close.
Cheers,
Jim B.
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