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1. 03:04 AM - Re: New movie: A couple of evening flights in the Piet (johnnysdrop)
2. 05:30 AM - Re: Re: New movie: A couple of evening flights in the Piet (Boatright, Jeffrey)
3. 05:34 AM - Piet on Barnstormers posted Oct 12 (Charles Burkholder)
4. 05:35 AM - Re: advice on trim mechanism (tools)
5. 06:40 AM - Re: Piet on Barnstormers posted Oct 12 (jarheadpilot82)
6. 10:48 AM - Re: advice on trim mechanism (nightmare)
7. 12:42 PM - Re: Re: New movie: A couple of evening flights in the Piet (George Abernathy)
8. 12:56 PM - Re: advice on trim mechanism (Jeff Boatright)
9. 07:06 PM - So long west coast pieters :( Hello Nashville... (Mark Roberts)
10. 07:22 PM - Re: So long west coast pieters :( Hello Nashville... (Lorenzo)
11. 08:28 PM - Re: So long west coast pieters :( Hello Nashville... (tools)
12. 09:23 PM - Re: Vi Kapler hinges (taildrags)
13. 10:09 PM - Re: Re: Vi Kapler hinges (Ray Krause)
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Subject: | Re: New movie: A couple of evening flights in the Piet |
Hi Jeff
Enjoyed the evening flight, thanks. The airfield interests me, a lot of hazards
around too. Is this an airpark for aviators, I see open wide gardens onto the
strip and a housing estate in the airfield effectively? Do the cows get onto
the runway at all, they seemed not to care about you flying over them on final,
amazing and as I say interesting place.
John Theron (English Johnny)
Working on the Wills design spars.
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Subject: | Re: New movie: A couple of evening flights in the |
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Subject: | Piet on Barnstormers posted Oct 12 |
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Subject: | Re: advice on trim mechanism |
Are you putting in airspeed indication in the front too? If not, don't really
recommend trim, especially for front seat instruction. That way, fifty always
feels like fifty, sixty always feels like sixty, etc.
I taught my son to fly in the front of a Piet. Good intercom is way more important.
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Subject: | Re: Piet on Barnstormers posted Oct 12 |
Charles,
The ad appears to have been taken down. I saw it and they described the motor as
being a Corvair. It did not look like any Corvair I had ever seen. I forwarded
a link to William Wynne and here was his response-
"Terry,
I just called the guy and suggested taking the word Corvair out of the ad. I think
it is a Pontiac Iron duke 140 cid. est. project value $3,500 if the covering
is perfect and the wood is cert spruce. Otherwise get the zippo lighter.
Thank you.
William Wynne"
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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Subject: | Re: advice on trim mechanism |
planning on an airpeed and altimeter in front. ive always thought it important
when instructing to have my students fly at various speeds and trim for hands
off at those speeds. think ive got a pretty nifty (and light) idea for a cockpit
trim control but will hold off on details till I actually build it.
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: New movie: A couple of evening flights in the |
Piet
Sounds like a great airport. Not many of them left. =0A=0A=0A______________
__________________=0A From: "Boatright, Jeffrey" <jeffboatright@emory.edu>
=0ATo: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> =0ASen
t: Monday, October 13, 2014 5:30 AM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New
movie: A couple of evening flights in the Piet=0A =0A=0A=0AHi John,=0A=0AG
lad you enjoyed the movie. The field doesn=99t really have all that m
any hazards in that it is 2800 ft long and 100 ft wide. The airport was cre
ated by a retired Eastern Airlines pilot, who still lives there. He is slow
ing down a bit, and has interests out on the coast with his son, so mainten
ance of the field and what few facilities exist is getting intermittent. I
=99ve offered to mow for him, but coordination has been difficult. A
great thing about the whole deal is that he only charges $40 per month per
flying airplane for use of the field. He doesn=99t charge rent if you
erect a hangar and he doesn=99t charge if your plane is down for mai
ntenance and thus could not be using the field for that month.=0A=0AThe hou
sing development resulted from his selling about half of his land to invest
ors who then put up a bunch of =9Cstarter homes=9D that were ch
eap in price and quality. Unfortunately, only a handful of pilots moved the
re. Fortunately two of them are great mechanics and pilots, and one is also
an instructor. Prior to the Great Recession, it was fairly common to have
several planes flying in and and out all during the weekends and even on we
ekdays. Now, it=99s mainly just the experimental crowd on the weekend
s and almost nothing during the week. Some of the retirees have also had to
cut way back on flying due to health problems. I think I=99m the sec
ond youngest guy there, and I=99m 52! I think the instructor/mechanic
/pilot may be a few years younger than me.=0A=0AI=99ve never heard of
cows getting on the field, though occasionally a pilot overruns and takes
out the fence. Due to that, the airport owner replaced the center section o
f the wire fence with PVC plastic pipe (you can see it in many of the video
s) that simply pops apart if hit by a vehicle.=0A=0AIf you look closely in
the last video, you=99ll see a black cow run to the left as I
=99m on short final. That may be the only time I=99ve noticed a cow g
etting spooked by a plane.=0A=0AWhat part of England do you live in? My in-
laws lived in Tewin in the 90s, up near Panshanger Aerodrome.=0A=0AWarmest
regards,=0A=0AJeff=0A=0AFrom: johnnysdrop <johnnysdrop@googlemail.com>=0ARe
ply-To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>=0ADat
e: Monday, October 13, 2014 at 6:03 AM=0ATo: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com"
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couple of evening flights in the Piet=0A=0A=0A--> Pietenpol-List message p
osted by: "johnnysdrop" <johnnysdrop@googlemail.com>=0A>=0A>=0A>Hi Jeff=0A>
Enjoyed the evening flight, thanks. The airfield interests me, a lot of haz
ards around too. Is this an airpark for aviators, I see open wide gardens o
nto the strip and a housing estate in the airfield effectively? Do the cows
get onto the runway at all, they seemed not to care about you flying over
them on final, amazing and as I say interesting place.=0A>John Theron (Engl
ish Johnny)=0A>Working on the Wills design spars.=0A>=0A>=0A>--------=0A>Th
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Subject: | Re: advice on trim mechanism |
I think Harold Johnson, one of the "Big Piet" builders, had a Bingelis-inspired
trim tab actuated by Bowden cable. Are any "Big Piet" builders on the list and
do you know how well the system worked?
I've tried to attach a couple of photos. Please let me know if you can see them.
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Subject: | So long west coast pieters :( Hello Nashville... |
Well, after the latest job layoff, I am saying good bye to California and hello
to Nashville. I am relocating Wednesday and returning to move my stuff at Christmas,
including the project such. As it is right now. I hope to be able to
fly to Brodhead as it will be closer, and perhaps see some of my west coast buddies
again. I was able to see Jorge from Hanford yesterday, but Mike and Vic,
Gary and the west coast contingent I will miss indeed.
So, who's in and around the Nashville area? Looking for some good plane chatting
friends when I get back on my feet there.
Cheers!
Mark Roberts
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Subject: | Re: So long west coast pieters :( Hello Nashville... |
85TN (Tellico Plains, TN) is only 3 hrs away by auto, maybe 1.5 by plane, from
Nashville. Between Knoxville & Chattanooga. One Piet in residence, one under construction.
We have a monthly fly-in/cookout on the 2nd Sat May-Oct. Come visit.
Lorenzo
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Subject: | Re: So long west coast pieters :( Hello Nashville... |
Got one based just south of chattanooga. Welcome anytime!
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Subject: | Re: Vi Kapler hinges |
Hello, Pieters;
I wanted to report that I have just received a new run of aluminum castings for
the Kapler hinges and will soon begin finishing and fabricating them. I have
enough castings to produce at least 20 sets (9 pairs) of hinges, so there should
be enough to last for a good while. I will post to the list when I have some
sets finished and available to ship out. I do not yet have the final bill
from the foundry, so I can't state a price just yet but will also post that when
I know.
These parts carry no STC, PMA, guarantee, or any other approval from anyone or
any agency. They are for experimental, home-built aircraft.
These parts are individually inspected by me and are hand-finished and hand-made
from aluminum castings from a foundry here in the U.S. using hand tools and
simple jigs that Vi made by hand many years ago, so no two pairs of hinges will
be alike and no dimensional tolerances will be provided. When I have a couple
of sets completed from this run, I will measure them using ordinary shop instruments
and will post the dimensions to this list. I will also proof-test a
random representative pair of hinges on the bench to failure and will post the
test results to this list. I may also replace the hinges on my own plane with
a set from this run so that I can flight-test them myself, and then re-bush
my old set so I'll know how to properly use the re-bushing tools that Vi provided
along with the other tools and jigging.
I do not know which casting alloy the foundry uses to make these parts but I may
be able to deduce that by calculating back to the material tensile strength
after I run the test to determine the load at failure. I will post that information
to this list once I have it in hand.
These parts are essentially exact replacements for the ones that Vi made and sold
for many years, so they should fit in existing tail surfaces with all holes
matching.
I will offer refund of purchase price, or exchange for another pair, if a buyer
finds that the parts that they receive are not to their satisfaction after receiving
and inspecting them.
Thanks.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: | Re: Vi Kapler hinges |
Wow, you are a Super Pieter! That's what makes this group so special. I would certainly
order a set, but my "stuff" came with an Original Set from Vi!
Great to have you doing this for us.
Ray Krause
Building SkyScout
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> On Oct 13, 2014, at 9:23 PM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Hello, Pieters;
>
> I wanted to report that I have just received a new run of aluminum castings for
the Kapler hinges and will soon begin finishing and fabricating them. I have
enough castings to produce at least 20 sets (9 pairs) of hinges, so there should
be enough to last for a good while. I will post to the list when I have
some sets finished and available to ship out. I do not yet have the final bill
from the foundry, so I can't state a price just yet but will also post that
when I know.
>
> These parts carry no STC, PMA, guarantee, or any other approval from anyone or
any agency. They are for experimental, home-built aircraft.
>
> These parts are individually inspected by me and are hand-finished and hand-made
from aluminum castings from a foundry here in the U.S. using hand tools and
simple jigs that Vi made by hand many years ago, so no two pairs of hinges will
be alike and no dimensional tolerances will be provided. When I have a couple
of sets completed from this run, I will measure them using ordinary shop
instruments and will post the dimensions to this list. I will also proof-test
a random representative pair of hinges on the bench to failure and will post
the test results to this list. I may also replace the hinges on my own plane
with a set from this run so that I can flight-test them myself, and then re-bush
my old set so I'll know how to properly use the re-bushing tools that Vi provided
along with the other tools and jigging.
>
> I do not know which casting alloy the foundry uses to make these parts but I
may be able to deduce that by calculating back to the material tensile strength
after I run the test to determine the load at failure. I will post that information
to this list once I have it in hand.
>
> These parts are essentially exact replacements for the ones that Vi made and
sold for many years, so they should fit in existing tail surfaces with all holes
matching.
>
> I will offer refund of purchase price, or exchange for another pair, if a buyer
finds that the parts that they receive are not to their satisfaction after
receiving and inspecting them.
>
> Thanks.
>
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> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
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