---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 10/13/14: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:04 AM - Re: New movie: A couple of evening flights in the Piet (johnnysdrop) 2. 05:30 AM - Re: Re: New movie: A couple of evening flights in the Piet (Boatright, Jeffrey) 3. 05:34 AM - Piet on Barnstormers posted Oct 12 (Charles Burkholder) 4. 05:35 AM - Re: advice on trim mechanism (tools) 5. 06:40 AM - Re: Piet on Barnstormers posted Oct 12 (jarheadpilot82) 6. 10:48 AM - Re: advice on trim mechanism (nightmare) 7. 12:42 PM - Re: Re: New movie: A couple of evening flights in the Piet (George Abernathy) 8. 12:56 PM - Re: advice on trim mechanism (Jeff Boatright) 9. 07:06 PM - So long west coast pieters :( Hello Nashville... (Mark Roberts) 10. 07:22 PM - Re: So long west coast pieters :( Hello Nashville... (Lorenzo) 11. 08:28 PM - Re: So long west coast pieters :( Hello Nashville... (tools) 12. 09:23 PM - Re: Vi Kapler hinges (taildrags) 13. 10:09 PM - Re: Re: Vi Kapler hinges (Ray Krause) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:04:21 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New movie: A couple of evening flights in the Piet From: "johnnysdrop" Hi Jeff Enjoyed the evening flight, thanks. The airfield interests me, a lot of hazards around too. Is this an airpark for aviators, I see open wide gardens onto the strip and a housing estate in the airfield effectively? Do the cows get onto the runway at all, they seemed not to care about you flying over them on final, amazing and as I say interesting place. John Theron (English Johnny) Working on the Wills design spars. -------- The only way is UP Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431791#431791 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:30:37 AM PST US From: "Boatright, Jeffrey" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New movie: A couple of evening flights in the Piet SGkgSm9obiwNCg0KR2xhZCB5b3UgZW5qb3llZCB0aGUgbW92aWUuIFRoZSBmaWVsZCBkb2VzbuKA mXQgcmVhbGx5IGhhdmUgYWxsIHRoYXQgbWFueSBoYXphcmRzIGluIHRoYXQgaXQgaXMgMjgwMCBm dCBsb25nIGFuZCAxMDAgZnQgd2lkZS4gVGhlIGFpcnBvcnQgd2FzIGNyZWF0ZWQgYnkgYSByZXRp cmVkIEVhc3Rlcm4gQWlybGluZXMgcGlsb3QsIHdobyBzdGlsbCBsaXZlcyB0aGVyZS4gSGUgaXMg c2xvd2luZyBkb3duIGEgYml0LCBhbmQgaGFzIGludGVyZXN0cyBvdXQgb24gdGhlIGNvYXN0IHdp dGggaGlzIHNvbiwgc28gbWFpbnRlbmFuY2Ugb2YgdGhlIGZpZWxkIGFuZCB3aGF0IGZldyBmYWNp bGl0aWVzIGV4aXN0IGlzIGdldHRpbmcgaW50ZXJtaXR0ZW50LiBJ4oCZdmUgb2ZmZXJlZCB0byBt 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________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:52 AM PST US From: Charles Burkholder Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet on Barnstormers posted Oct 12 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:57 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: advice on trim mechanism From: "tools" Are you putting in airspeed indication in the front too? If not, don't really recommend trim, especially for front seat instruction. That way, fifty always feels like fifty, sixty always feels like sixty, etc. I taught my son to fly in the front of a Piet. Good intercom is way more important. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431796#431796 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:43 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet on Barnstormers posted Oct 12 From: "jarheadpilot82" Charles, The ad appears to have been taken down. I saw it and they described the motor as being a Corvair. It did not look like any Corvair I had ever seen. I forwarded a link to William Wynne and here was his response- "Terry, I just called the guy and suggested taking the word Corvair out of the ad. I think it is a Pontiac Iron duke 140 cid. est. project value $3,500 if the covering is perfect and the wood is cert spruce. Otherwise get the zippo lighter. Thank you. William Wynne" -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431798#431798 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:48:52 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: advice on trim mechanism From: "nightmare" planning on an airpeed and altimeter in front. ive always thought it important when instructing to have my students fly at various speeds and trim for hands off at those speeds. think ive got a pretty nifty (and light) idea for a cockpit trim control but will hold off on details till I actually build it. -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431804#431804 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:42:08 PM PST US From: George Abernathy Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New movie: A couple of evening flights in the Piet Sounds like a great airport. Not many of them left. =0A=0A=0A______________ __________________=0A From: "Boatright, Jeffrey" =0ATo: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" =0ASen t: Monday, October 13, 2014 5:30 AM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New movie: A couple of evening flights in the Piet=0A =0A=0A=0AHi John,=0A=0AG lad you enjoyed the movie. The field doesn=99t really have all that m any hazards in that it is 2800 ft long and 100 ft wide. The airport was cre ated by a retired Eastern Airlines pilot, who still lives there. He is slow ing down a bit, and has interests out on the coast with his son, so mainten ance of the field and what few facilities exist is getting intermittent. I =99ve offered to mow for him, but coordination has been difficult. A great thing about the whole deal is that he only charges $40 per month per flying airplane for use of the field. He doesn=99t charge rent if you erect a hangar and he doesn=99t charge if your plane is down for mai ntenance and thus could not be using the field for that month.=0A=0AThe hou sing development resulted from his selling about half of his land to invest ors who then put up a bunch of =9Cstarter homes=9D that were ch eap in price and quality. Unfortunately, only a handful of pilots moved the re. Fortunately two of them are great mechanics and pilots, and one is also an instructor. Prior to the Great Recession, it was fairly common to have several planes flying in and and out all during the weekends and even on we ekdays. Now, it=99s mainly just the experimental crowd on the weekend s and almost nothing during the week. Some of the retirees have also had to cut way back on flying due to health problems. I think I=99m the sec ond youngest guy there, and I=99m 52! I think the instructor/mechanic /pilot may be a few years younger than me.=0A=0AI=99ve never heard of cows getting on the field, though occasionally a pilot overruns and takes out the fence. Due to that, the airport owner replaced the center section o f the wire fence with PVC plastic pipe (you can see it in many of the video s) that simply pops apart if hit by a vehicle.=0A=0AIf you look closely in the last video, you=99ll see a black cow run to the left as I =99m on short final. That may be the only time I=99ve noticed a cow g etting spooked by a plane.=0A=0AWhat part of England do you live in? My in- laws lived in Tewin in the 90s, up near Panshanger Aerodrome.=0A=0AWarmest regards,=0A=0AJeff=0A=0AFrom: johnnysdrop =0ARe ply-To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" =0ADat e: Monday, October 13, 2014 at 6:03 AM=0ATo: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" =0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New movie: A couple of evening flights in the Piet=0A=0A=0A--> Pietenpol-List message p osted by: "johnnysdrop" =0A>=0A>=0A>Hi Jeff=0A> Enjoyed the evening flight, thanks. The airfield interests me, a lot of haz ards around too. Is this an airpark for aviators, I see open wide gardens o nto the strip and a housing estate in the airfield effectively? Do the cows get onto the runway at all, they seemed not to care about you flying over them on final, amazing and as I say interesting place.=0A>John Theron (Engl ish Johnny)=0A>Working on the Wills design spars.=0A>=0A>=0A>--------=0A>Th e only way is UP=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>Read this topic online here:=0A>=0A>=0A>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431791#43179 ===================0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A________________________________=0A =0AThis e-mail message ( including any attachments) is for the sole use of=0Athe intended recipient( s) and may contain confidential and privileged=0Ainformation. If the reader of this message is not the intended=0Arecipient, you are hereby notified t hat any dissemination, distribution=0Aor copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly=0Aprohibited.=0A=0AIf you have received this message in error, please contact=0Athe sender by reply e-mail message and d estroy all copies of the=0Aoriginal message (including attachments). ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:56:25 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: advice on trim mechanism From: "Jeff Boatright" I think Harold Johnson, one of the "Big Piet" builders, had a Bingelis-inspired trim tab actuated by Bowden cable. Are any "Big Piet" builders on the list and do you know how well the system worked? I've tried to attach a couple of photos. Please let me know if you can see them. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431808#431808 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscf0087_888.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscf0090_154.jpg ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:41 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: So long west coast pieters :( Hello Nashville... From: "Mark Roberts" Well, after the latest job layoff, I am saying good bye to California and hello to Nashville. I am relocating Wednesday and returning to move my stuff at Christmas, including the project such. As it is right now. I hope to be able to fly to Brodhead as it will be closer, and perhaps see some of my west coast buddies again. I was able to see Jorge from Hanford yesterday, but Mike and Vic, Gary and the west coast contingent I will miss indeed. So, who's in and around the Nashville area? Looking for some good plane chatting friends when I get back on my feet there. Cheers! Mark Roberts Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431820#431820 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:41 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So long west coast pieters :( Hello Nashville... From: "Lorenzo" 85TN (Tellico Plains, TN) is only 3 hrs away by auto, maybe 1.5 by plane, from Nashville. Between Knoxville & Chattanooga. One Piet in residence, one under construction. We have a monthly fly-in/cookout on the 2nd Sat May-Oct. Come visit. Lorenzo Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431821#431821 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:28:31 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: So long west coast pieters :( Hello Nashville... From: "tools" Got one based just south of chattanooga. Welcome anytime! Tools, 423 580 1383 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431826#431826 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:23:55 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Vi Kapler hinges From: "taildrags" Hello, Pieters; I wanted to report that I have just received a new run of aluminum castings for the Kapler hinges and will soon begin finishing and fabricating them. I have enough castings to produce at least 20 sets (9 pairs) of hinges, so there should be enough to last for a good while. I will post to the list when I have some sets finished and available to ship out. I do not yet have the final bill from the foundry, so I can't state a price just yet but will also post that when I know. These parts carry no STC, PMA, guarantee, or any other approval from anyone or any agency. They are for experimental, home-built aircraft. These parts are individually inspected by me and are hand-finished and hand-made from aluminum castings from a foundry here in the U.S. using hand tools and simple jigs that Vi made by hand many years ago, so no two pairs of hinges will be alike and no dimensional tolerances will be provided. When I have a couple of sets completed from this run, I will measure them using ordinary shop instruments and will post the dimensions to this list. I will also proof-test a random representative pair of hinges on the bench to failure and will post the test results to this list. I may also replace the hinges on my own plane with a set from this run so that I can flight-test them myself, and then re-bush my old set so I'll know how to properly use the re-bushing tools that Vi provided along with the other tools and jigging. I do not know which casting alloy the foundry uses to make these parts but I may be able to deduce that by calculating back to the material tensile strength after I run the test to determine the load at failure. I will post that information to this list once I have it in hand. These parts are essentially exact replacements for the ones that Vi made and sold for many years, so they should fit in existing tail surfaces with all holes matching. I will offer refund of purchase price, or exchange for another pair, if a buyer finds that the parts that they receive are not to their satisfaction after receiving and inspecting them. Thanks. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431827#431827 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:09:50 PM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Vi Kapler hinges Wow, you are a Super Pieter! That's what makes this group so special. I would certainly order a set, but my "stuff" came with an Original Set from Vi! Great to have you doing this for us. Ray Krause Building SkyScout Sent from my iPad > On Oct 13, 2014, at 9:23 PM, taildrags wrote: > > > Hello, Pieters; > > I wanted to report that I have just received a new run of aluminum castings for the Kapler hinges and will soon begin finishing and fabricating them. I have enough castings to produce at least 20 sets (9 pairs) of hinges, so there should be enough to last for a good while. I will post to the list when I have some sets finished and available to ship out. I do not yet have the final bill from the foundry, so I can't state a price just yet but will also post that when I know. > > These parts carry no STC, PMA, guarantee, or any other approval from anyone or any agency. They are for experimental, home-built aircraft. > > These parts are individually inspected by me and are hand-finished and hand-made from aluminum castings from a foundry here in the U.S. using hand tools and simple jigs that Vi made by hand many years ago, so no two pairs of hinges will be alike and no dimensional tolerances will be provided. When I have a couple of sets completed from this run, I will measure them using ordinary shop instruments and will post the dimensions to this list. I will also proof-test a random representative pair of hinges on the bench to failure and will post the test results to this list. I may also replace the hinges on my own plane with a set from this run so that I can flight-test them myself, and then re-bush my old set so I'll know how to properly use the re-bushing tools that Vi provided along with the other tools and jigging. > > I do not know which casting alloy the foundry uses to make these parts but I may be able to deduce that by calculating back to the material tensile strength after I run the test to determine the load at failure. I will post that information to this list once I have it in hand. > > These parts are essentially exact replacements for the ones that Vi made and sold for many years, so they should fit in existing tail surfaces with all holes matching. > > I will offer refund of purchase price, or exchange for another pair, if a buyer finds that the parts that they receive are not to their satisfaction after receiving and inspecting them. > > Thanks. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431827#431827 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.